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JHRC
I am in the process of installing a rear view camera to my 2006 XT5 which is already prewired to the inside of rear door and connects by a S7 socket, but I need a S7 plug. Can buy this part on its own or do I have buy the camera complete with S7 plug. Already have a camera that I purchased from ebay which intend fitting near the number plate. :help: :help: :help:
dave.m
Hi, as I recall Dutchrav was on here and Rav 4 World recently asking about reversing
cameras. I dont think he got an answer, as few members have actually done it. If I
were you I would do a google search to find some of the companies that supply these
parts (there are a few) and ask them for info. ;)

Good luck,

Dave.
JHRC
[quote name='dave.m' post='664884' date='Aug 23 2007, 03:08 PM']Hi, as I recall Dutchrav was on here and Rav 4 World recently asking about reversing
cameras. I dont think he got an answer, as few members have actually done it. If I
were you I would do a google search to find some of the companies that supply these
parts (there are a few) and ask them for info. ;)

Good luck,

Dave.[/quote]


Thanks for your input Dave, I've read Dutchrav's thread, and he didn,t get much feed back either.

I Though that parts-king would have solved my problem, as other toyota models have rear view camera fitted e.g. land cruiser, prius, also lexus models

Although there must alot of members interested in fitting a camera, going by the number of readers to this thread.

I did come across a web site G-net in Canada who do an add-on for dvd players to sat nav systems, which you can add a rear view camera.
I will let you know if and when I make any progress.

Thanks Jim ;) ;) ;)
shcm
Hello JHRC,

If it is any help, the part number for the vehicle harness end connector appears to be 90980-12382. Of course, you want the camera end part number, which I don't seem to be able to find at the moment :( .

I can suggest a number of things:

1. Quote the vehicle end connector part number to your dealer and see if he can match it up with the other mating half (though I don't know whether dealers sell just connectors, I know they sell harness adapters etc).

2. Sometimes connector manufacturers like Tyco or Amp (I don't know who makes the Toyota connector), will do equivalent parts. As a long shot, if you can get hold of a friendly sales rep, they might be able to sort something for you.

3. If you can stand to do it (potential warranty and all that), and you know both camera pinout and car end pinout (I have the car end details for a 4.3 if you need it) remove the car end connector and use something else.

I have effectively done No.3. I plan to use the video input for a car 'puter display (it works - already tested it and it saves me installing another display) and/or a reversing camera. The car 'puter display will be a bit grainy but will be good enough for me.

What I would really like to know is if any of the spare connections on the navigation unit are something like vga inputs, but I don't seem to be able to find that out at the moment!

Oh, a little tip, I'm fairly certain both video signal ground and camera supply ground have to be connected together. I believe this is how the nav unit detects whether a camera is connected or not. It may not be a problem if your camera connects them internally anyway, but it can be a problem with other video sources.

The nav unit does both NTSC and PAL video.

Let me know if you need more help.

Cheers
sywy
I know I only have to ring a dealer and ask, but if I went ot a dealer and say i want the rear view camera from a Landcruiser, for example, fitted to my RAV, would they do it? i guess it'll depend on the dealer, and probably cost £££'s

Actually, thinking about, what if I say i want the camera system from a Euro RAV, as I believe it's available in Europe?
Fujisan
Had avoided reading this topic until now because a lad in work on overtime was bending my ear about how he's fitted a rear view camera (as well fitting reversing sensors) to his wife's Boxster!
Good God a Boxster! :wacko: Turnaround and you can touch the back bumper! :ffs:
Well now that he's fitted the camera and the, I think it's a pop-up screen, he said, his next bit of bodgery is fitting a Freeview box so that she can enjoy a nice bit of telly! :jawdrop:
His only problem now was finding an digital aerial that could pick up every possible channel......while on the move! :death:
Don't ask how he can afford a Boxster........he has a debt that would keep South American governments awake at night!
Dutchrav
I am still busy to get a camera pic out of the Satnav!!

PAL camera´s does NOT work...maybe a NTSC will do. I have one now, just have to test it.

G-Net converters and all other suppliers of that kind of equipment say all it does not work on European Satnav units. It is because it is all build in the unit. These converters can only be used if the GPS-box (DVD player) is a seperate unit located under the seat or in the trunk. For me too expensive to buy one and try it..

Original a 10-pin connector is used for a camera (Landcruiser, Prius, etc) but this one works with RGB signal. Searching the web i read that a 4-pin connector is normally used for the ´aftermarket´ camera wires. Have access to many wiring diagrams but have not found one using the 4-pin connector.

@ shcm : Same ground for camera and 12v power sound a bit strange to me.
Ground on the vehicle is ground, in the end it will all come together at the - of the battery.

The camera is 12v powered by the reversing lights, the other two wires have to be connected to the satnav unit.
For switching the display to camera mode there is another reversing wire connected to the satnav unit.
shcm
I think we are in danger of getting a little confused. So perhaps I can try to clarify (most likely confuse further) things a bit.

DutchRav - I can only comment on the nav/head unit and camera connections on a 4.3 RAV, i.e. B9004 head unit, which is the only one I have experience of and I believe is the one JHRC is asking about. I think you are trying something similar with a 4.2 RAV, head unit B9003???

Everything below refers to the B9004 unit. This is how I believe it works:

There are six signals to/from the head unit which are involved:

BTCY : back door courtesy switch on pin 1 of 24 way head unit connector E54 (light green wire)
REV : reverse gear select on pin 5 of 5 way head unit connector E57 (red wire)
CGND : camera supply ground on pin 21 of E54 (red wire)
V+ : camera video signal on pin 22 of E54 (white wire)
V- : camera video signal gnd on pin 23 of E54 (a screen/braid wire)
CA+ : camera positive supply on pin 24 of E54 (a black wire)

Four of these wires are connected to the S7 camera connector (a 6 way connector) at the rear of the vehicle. Those that connect are:

CGND : connects to CGND on S7 (pin 3)
V+ : connects to CV+ on S7 (pin 2)
V- : connects to CV- on S7 (pin 1)
CA+ : connects to CB+ on S7 (pin 4)

pins 5 and 6 on S7 are unused.

When reverse gear selection is detected via REV, 6 Volts is supplied from the head unit to the camera via CA+ (CB+) and CGND. The camera video signal is input to the head unit via V+ and V-. If the back door is detected open via BTCY, then if reverse is also selected at the time, then a door open message is displayed on the head unit in place of the camera video signal.

For a non-Toyota after-market camera, it is likely to require a 12V supply and not the 6V supply that the Toyota camera would appear to accept. That is why people will take the 12V supply from the reversing light supply, for example, and not the head unit.

With reverse selected, the head unit displays a "Check Surroundings For Safety" message superimposed at the bottom of the camera video image.

In the 4.3 XT5 and T180, the camera harness is already in place and all that is needed is the camera connecting to S7. However, if the camera is not connected (default for current UK models) it is probably not desirable to display a blank screen (i.e. no camera - so no picture!) with the "safety" message, every time you use reverse. You therefore need a way to detect that the camera is fitted. My first assumption was that the head unit probably detected the video sync pulses from the camera, but is simpler than that. Without the camera connected, V- floats (or is pulled up) at about 3V. When the camera is connected, V- is connected to CGND internally in the camera and this condition is detected by the head unit. DutchRAV - this is what I meant by the grounds being connected. I have confirmed this by connecting CGND and V- together without a camera/video source connected and I get a blank screen with safety message as expected.

[img]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/shcmpb/b9004-blank.jpg[/img]

If you connect an after-market camera power input to say 12V reverse light supply and a body ground and the video signal output to V+ and V-, then yes, most likely, V- will get pulled to gnd in the camera and it should work.

The B9004 does work for me with either a NTSC video source or a PAL video source - I have tried both.

This is PAL:

[img]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/shcmpb/b9004-pal.jpg[/img]

This is NTSC

[img]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/shcmpb/b9004-ntsc.jpg[/img]

although I have to admit, the NTSC does strangely give better colour balance.

This one just shows the extra display adjustments you get when the camera/video source is active:

[img]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/shcmpb/b9004-cam-controls.jpg[/img]


If anybody is still awake this far, and you have the rear seat DVD entertainment thing installed in your 4.3, perhaps you would be good enough to let me know whether it plays audio and/or displays video on the head unit (B9004). If it does display DVD video (maybe when parked?), then this would give me a very useful pointer that the head unit can display other video sources apart from via the rear camera input.

Phew!

Any clearer? I guess not!

Cheers
anchorman
I would just like to declare shcm as my official consumer electronics guru.

If he can do that above - "he my man"!!
shcm
[quote name='anchorman' post='665644' date='Aug 26 2007, 12:11 PM']I would just like to declare shcm as my official consumer electronics guru.

If he can do that above - "he my man"!![/quote]

Hey Anchorman Thanks!

:blush:

Not sure I'm worthy of such an accolade from the great Anchorman!

Anyway, better stop this mutual ego stroking right now - people will begin to talk!
JHRC
Hi, shcm this is the best information I have read so far, and hadn't realised that it was only 6 volts from the sat nav unit. You must have spent a lot time :Dstudying the drawing and testing to deliver this excellent information.

Also like to thank all the other members for their comments and information, their help is much appreciated. :D :D
dave.m
JHRC, dont you think this forum is bloody brilliant :rolleyes: all this help and info.
And its free :) doubt wether the dealers could come up with solutions as quick.
Keep it up guys :clap:

Dave.
fatskater
I have a t180 56 plate (I assume this is the 4.3 rav) Could you show me where the camera connector is via a pic if possible please.
JHRC
Hi shcm, I,ve come across this web site that could be of interest to you, in fitting DVD/TV to your sat-nav screen.
www.driveandview.com they are based in Bournemouth/Poole and have converted quite a few Jap cars, including Rav4.
:P :P :P :P
Hope this helps

jim
JHRC
[quote name='fatskater' post='666507' date='Aug 29 2007, 03:10 PM']I have a t180 56 plate (I assume this is the 4.3 rav) Could you show me where the camera connector is via a pic if possible please.[/quote]


Hi fatskater,

Here are photo's showing connector position.

[url="http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/?action=view&current=P1000566.jpg"]http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/j...nt=P1000566.jpg[/url][/img]
















[url="http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/?action=view&current=P1000568.jpg"]http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/j...nt=P1000568.jpg[/url][/img]














[url="http://http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/?action=view&current=P1000567.jpg"]http://http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/...nt=P1000567.jpg[/url][/img]


I hope this come out OK as I am not very good at down loading photo.

The expert can give me some tips, sorry no trains :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
JappyBeast
Hi Guys,

I have just fitted a very simple set up on my MR2 but does not incorporate any factory parts what so ever.


I bought this camera for £13,

[img]http://i14.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/a5/b3/3c80_1.JPG[/img]


And very simply wired the positive and negative into a switch on the dashboard wired to the battery.

Then with a 5 meter single RCA lead (also from ebay)

[img]http://i24.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/a7/cb/fa67_1_b.JPG[/img]

Connected the camera to my in dash LCD screen. Not sure if your screens in the Rav 4 has an RCA input?

[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/jappybeast/dash1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/jappybeast/cam1.jpg[/img]


Not sure if any of the above helps as its a pretty easy install, the hardest part was getting the wires from the back of the car to inside the cockpit.

Andy
dave.m
Thanks Jappy, this one looks pretty straight forward. May even have a go at it myself.

Dave. :thumbsup:
JappyBeast
Its defo worth it, can imagine its advantagous on a large vehicle. Looks snazzy too when driving along.
BigBaz
Does the camera have a built in microphone too to pick up the exhaust noise !! :P
JappyBeast
[quote name='BigBaz' post='667754' date='Sep 1 2007, 11:45 AM']Does the camera have a built in microphone too to pick up the exhaust noise !! :P[/quote]

Its loud enough as it is!!
shcm
[quote name='JHRC' post='666794' date='Aug 30 2007, 10:49 AM']Hi shcm, I,ve come across this web site that could be of interest to you, in fitting DVD/TV to your sat-nav screen.
www.driveandview.com they are based in Bournemouth/Poole and have converted quite a few Jap cars, including Rav4.
:P :P :P :P
Hope this helps

jim[/quote]

Thanks for the link Jim - Interesting. I wonder if they hack the head unit about or whether they know some secrets about unused connectors.

[quote name='JappyBeast' post='667051' date='Aug 30 2007, 10:26 PM']Connected the camera to my in dash LCD screen. Not sure if your screens in the Rav 4 has an RCA input?[/quote]

Effectively it does. If you solder a phono plug between V+, V-/CGND, (which is what I have done), then with a supply to the camera I'm 90% certain this would work for the 4.3.

Cheers
Dutchrav
[quote name='shcm' post='665638' date='Aug 26 2007, 10:54 AM']DutchRav - I can only comment on the nav/head unit and camera connections on a 4.3 RAV, i.e. B9004 head unit, which is the only one I have experience of and I believe is the one JHRC is asking about. I think you are trying something similar with a 4.2 RAV, head unit B9003???[/quote]

Yes, i have a B9003 unit used in RAV 4.2 and Corolla.
FruitBat
Hi There,

I would realy like to carry this mod out on my 06 xt5. The images below are not showing is it possible to fix them or email them to me perhaps?
as I have no idea where the S7 connector would be located

Thanks in advance


Joe


[quote name='JHRC' post='666982' date='Aug 30 2007, 06:50 PM'][quote name='fatskater' post='666507' date='Aug 29 2007, 03:10 PM']I have a t180 56 plate (I assume this is the 4.3 rav) Could you show me where the camera connector is via a pic if possible please.[/quote]


Hi fatskater,

Here are photo's showing connector position.

[url="http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/?action=view&current=P1000566.jpg"]http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/j...nt=P1000566.jpg[/url][/img]
















[url="http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/?action=view&current=P1000568.jpg"]http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/j...nt=P1000568.jpg[/url][/img]














[url="http://http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/?action=view&current=P1000567.jpg"]http://http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/...nt=P1000567.jpg[/url][/img]


I hope this come out OK as I am not very good at down loading photo.

The expert can give me some tips, sorry no trains :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
[/quote]
chatman
JHRC will need to upload the photo's again to his photobucket account....as they are not there now, that's why you cant see them....
JHRC
[quote name='FruitBat' date='Oct 20 2007, 05:24 PM' post='683502']
Hi There,

I would realy like to carry this mod out on my 06 xt5. The images below are not showing is it possible to fix them or email them to me perhaps?
as I have no idea where the S7 connector would be located

Thanks in advance


Joe


Hi Joe,

Unfortunately I am not home till Friday and must have deleted S7 photos by mistake and will upload them again with more details I made to use the original socket.

I also used a ntsc ccd camera as this gave clear and colour perfict picture.

Cheers Jim.
FruitBat
No worries, Thanks for the reply Jim

Joe
Sp33dy1969
Ok heres a link to my original post showing the rear of the sat nav unit....

[url="http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=56164&hl=sp33dy1969"]Link[/url]

[url="http://www.wellshome.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Photos/Anytime%20Trio.pdf"]Wiring Diagram[/url]

[img]http://www.wellshome.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Photos/NavRear.JPG[/img]

and yes you need a ntsc camera... and one with a reversed image if you can get one.

oh and a good tip for you.... get some old PC motherboard plugs and with a bit of work they will fit the 4 pin plug (white) on the back of the nav unit. I used two trimed "fan" type connectors, soldered a phono lead to them and they just pluged straight in :D

hope that helps

Regards
Sp33dy1969
anchorman
I'm pretty good with mechanical stuff and I'm alright with auto electrics but you electronics boffins just astound me!

I can never understand how my telly works when it is only operated by liquorice allsorts (but never those blue/pink with the beads on).

So if I call upon my electronics expert, the one and only shcm to join forces with Sp33dy1969, I bet between you there is a way of creating a 3.5mm aux input to these radios. That would solve a lot of problems and do away with the need for an Ipod interface (as a basic alternative).

Well fella's.

The gauntlet is down.

PS I prefer to keep my Ipod interface which is currently connected to the remote CD changer plug.
Sp33dy1969
anchorman...

I'd love to be able to fix that one myself, but I’m afraid that when I looked at this before the only line level audio inputs I could find were the CD changer ones.

As the head unit uses a AVN (digital type network) communication system to talk too and from the CD Changer, Digital Tuner or Navigation units for example, the only way to fool the head unit is to build an interface to the "AVN" network that would make the unit think it's playing a CD with a very long track :unsure:

I know this has been done before as some time ago I found a webby site detailing the AVN comms protocol and a home made interface which did just that.

It turned out that each device on the AVN network used the head units line inputs as required in turn, thus the problem with this idea / method is that you loose the use of the CD changer. As I did want that, and I didn't have an mp3 player at the time I didn't pursue this any further.

Hope that makes sense

Regards.
Sp33dy1969
Whoops forgot the link...

[url="http://www.softservice.com.pl/corolla/avc/avclan.php"]AVN and AVC LAN Protocols[/url]

Regards.
anchorman
Not even with liquorice allsorts?

I'm afraid I just have to take your word for it as that link is written in Latvian or something.

Ipod interface it is then.

Thanks anyway.

Regards
jock1
[quote name='anchorman' post='684167' date='Oct 22 2007, 11:11 PM']Not even with liquorice allsorts?

I'm afraid I just have to take your word for it as that link is written in Latvian or something.

Ipod interface it is then.

Thanks anyway.

Regards[/quote]
Eh!!!!! :eek:
JappyBeast
NTSC Camera's are easy to get on eBay, you just have to specify what format you want (NTSC or PAL) and they are already wired reversed.
shcm
[quote name='anchorman' post='684138' date='Oct 22 2007, 09:58 PM']I'm pretty good with mechanical stuff and I'm alright with auto electrics but you electronics boffins just astound me!

I can never understand how my telly works when it is only operated by liquorice allsorts (but never those blue/pink with the beads on).[/quote]

Somebody call? :rolleyes:

Well Anchorman, strangely I'm OK with basic/intermediate mechy stuff, but I'd hesitate at stripping down and rebuilding a gearbox for example.

[quote name='anchorman' post='684138' date='Oct 22 2007, 09:58 PM']So if I call upon my electronics expert, the one and only shcm to join forces with Sp33dy1969, I bet between you there is a way of creating a 3.5mm aux input to these radios. That would solve a lot of problems and do away with the need for an Ipod interface (as a basic alternative).

Well fella's.

The gauntlet is down.

PS I prefer to keep my Ipod interface which is currently connected to the remote CD changer plug.[/quote]

I've been brewing things in my head along these lines for a while, trouble is the day job gets in the way. :D

[quote name='Sp33dy1969' post='684149' date='Oct 22 2007, 10:50 PM']It turned out that each device on the AVN network used the head units line inputs as required in turn, thus the problem with this idea / method is that you loose the use of the CD changer. As I did want that, and I didn't have an mp3 player at the time I didn't pursue this any further.
.[/quote]

yeah, I would guess true if the head unit only recognizes the CD changer AVCLAN ID. If it knows about other unit IDs you could possible fool it into using one of those and still keep the CD changer "dasiy chained" on the bus. If you mean you want to mix two different units audio outputs together, that might be more troublesome. Just thinking about 4.3 fitted units for the moment:

Searching through the nav unit DVD contents (the DVD contains some of the software for the nav headunit as well as the maps I believe), it would also appear to recognize a "DVD changer". That might be one option.

For the non-map head units, I don't know! Toyota have the ipod interface and also seem to have a DAB box. Can both of these be used together (suggesting the head unit knows separate IDs) or not?
If it only knows about the CD changer ID, maybe some kind of bus "gateway" could be build, where the gateway pretends to be a CD changer to the head unit, but "translates" bus traffic to multiple devices attached to it (e.g. CD changer, straight 3.5mm jack etc). Would need to devise some means of switching between them.

There are certainly possibilities......anyway must go. Off to Germany to look at some really scary liquorice - told you the day job got in the way....... :D

Cheers
Fujisan
I'll get me coat!

This thread stopped making sense to a big hammer guy at Liquorice Allsorts :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sp33dy1969
shcm,

Firstly what do you do? I'm an RF electronics senior engineer based in Birmingham... (I see your in the mid's too) and yes not so good on the mechanics too :)

Secondly, I agree that you would indeed need an interface to the AVC bus and then switch the line level audios as required etc.

As for fooling the head unit, yes this could work... but the question is how do the ID's work. Does each AV device have a fixed ID given to them during production? Or do they get assigned an ID by the Head unit? Then comes the matter of software / control codes etc? And what the Head unit in question can control.

I guess the best way to play this would be either build the aux in interface as described on the corolla page and try it. or build a AVC-LAN sniffer to find the ID's & codes that would work with each Head unit as required.

The problem is, like you I too have a day job :( and secondly I can't really afford to have the head unit out of my car for the length of development time that would be required for this sort of project.

Then you have to ask, would it be worth it? i.e. if I did all this work on my full screen unit and it worked, there would be no guaranties of it working on other head unit types.


BTW I know of many devices that are capable of talking to the head units via the AVC-LAN: -

Single CD.
CD Changer.
MD Changer.
DVD.
DVD Changer.
DAB Tuner.
TV Tuner (Lexus only i think)
US Sat Radio Tuner.
Multi Screens + DVD
Remote Audio & Rear Head phones.
IPOD interface.

And so on...... and so on.

FYI... here's the hardware & ID tables from the Corolla MP3 site: -

Every device in network has unique address.
When single device have more functions, then additional 'logic id' exists.

Table: hardware address and device names
110 EMV 120 AVX 128 1DIN TV
140 AVN 144 G-BOOK 160 AUDIO H/U
178 NAVI 17C MONET 190 AUDIO H/U
1AC CAMERA-C 180 Rr-TV 1C0 Rr-CONT
1C2 TV-TUNER2 1C4 PANEL 1C6 G/W
1C8 FM-M-LCD 1D8 G/W for Trip 1EC Body
1F0 RADIO TUNER 1F1 XM 1F2 SIRIUS
230 TV-TUNER 240 CD-CH2 250 DVD-CH
280 CAMERA 360 CD-CH1 3A0 MD-CH
17D TEL 440 DSP-AMP 530 ETC
5C8 MAYDAY 1A0 DVD-P 1D6 CLOCK
1F4 RSA 1F6 RSE 480 AMP


table : logic device ID
01 communication ctrl 58 navigation ECU 80 GPS receiver
21 SW 23 SW with name 25 command SW
12 communication 60 tuner 74 Audio amplifier
61 tape deck 62 CD 63 CD changer
34 front passenger monitor 24 SW converting 85 voice control
E5 Trip info 55 Bluetooth tel 56 information drawing
5D Climate ctrl drawing 5E Audio drawing 5F trip info drawing
28 beep dev in HU 29 beep via speakers E0 climate ctrl dev



Sorry about the long post and going slightly off topic...

Best regards
Sp33dy.
anchorman
[quote name='Fujisan' post='684356' date='Oct 23 2007, 01:57 PM']I'll get me coat!

This thread stopped making sense to a big hammer guy at Liquorice Allsorts :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

Hang on I'm coming with you!

Pub I reckon?

:cheers:
Fujisan
[quote name='anchorman' post='684671' date='Oct 23 2007, 11:23 PM'][quote name='Fujisan' post='684356' date='Oct 23 2007, 01:57 PM']I'll get me coat!

This thread stopped making sense to a big hammer guy at Liquorice Allsorts :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

Hang on I'm coming with you!

Pub I reckon?

:cheers:
[/quote]

Sound's good! :thumbsup:
shcm
[quote name='Sp33dy1969' post='684536' date='Oct 23 2007, 09:57 PM']shcm,

Firstly what do you do? I'm an RF electronics senior engineer based in Birmingham... (I see your in the mid's too) and yes not so good on the mechanics too :)[/quote]

Er..........uncanny, almost SNAP! I hope I'm not developing a split personality disorder and sending posts to myself. :o (only kidding Sp33dy1969). Perhaps it's just the effect of me breathing too much aircraft cabin air recently. :lol:

[quote name='Sp33dy1969' post='684536' date='Oct 23 2007, 09:57 PM']Does each AV device have a fixed ID given to them during production? Or do they get assigned an ID by the Head unit? Then comes the matter of software / control codes etc? And what the Head unit in question can control.[/quote]

I believe they are almost certainly hard coded into the head unit software.

[quote name='Sp33dy1969' post='684536' date='Oct 23 2007, 09:57 PM']The problem is, like you I too have a day job :( and secondly I can't really afford to have the head unit out of my car for the length of development time that would be required for this sort of project.[/quote]

I've attached a harness to the back of mine, so I've got easy access to the bus, so the head unit hopefully can stay in place most (if not all) of the time. Although sniffing could turn out to be a long winded exercise.

[quote name='Sp33dy1969' post='684536' date='Oct 23 2007, 09:57 PM']Then you have to ask, would it be worth it? i.e. if I did all this work on my full screen unit and it worked, there would be no guaranties of it working on other head unit types.[/quote]

Yep, I agree with you. I bought (goes slightly against the grain) an aux adapter (pretends to be a cd changer) for my old 4.2 and fed mixed car PC audio (mp3 collection) and transceiver audio through it. Tried the aux adapter with the 4.3 head unit and it works ok for about 5 seconds or so, then starts behaving strangely. The 4.3 head unit is almost certainly asking for information which the aux adapter doesn't support and which the 4.2 head unit didn't ask for. I suspect it is related to cd track time information, but I need to build a sniffer to confirm it.

I've not yet seen anybody selling an aux adapter which claims to support the 4.3 map display head unit, so I expect to have to do it myself. Of course, by the time I actually get round to it, one might appear :D

[quote name='anchorman' post='684671' date='Oct 23 2007, 11:23 PM'][quote name='Fujisan' post='684356' date='Oct 23 2007, 01:57 PM']I'll get me coat!

This thread stopped making sense to a big hammer guy at Liquorice Allsorts :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

Hang on I'm coming with you!

Pub I reckon?

:cheers:
[/quote]

Then, of course, if you think about it, after a while it will all start to make perfect sense. :drunk: Unfortunately the created associated neural pathways are short lived. Their death leads to :bangin: the following morning as well as being back to square one.

Which reminds me of a software engineer I know about, who reckoned that safety related ECU software was always best written straight after a long pub session (I'm joking........honest!).

OK, now I'm way :offtopic:

Cheers
anchorman
You mean a very long while and an awful lot of beer because nothings making any sense yet :unsure:
dave.m
[quote name='anchorman' post='685488' date='Oct 25 2007, 09:40 PM']You mean a very long while and an awful lot of beer because nothings making any sense yet :unsure:[/quote]


:o :o Anchorman, I may need to start drinking again and join you at the pub because I'm
seeing liquerice allsorts as well. ;)
chatman
[quote name='dave.m' post='685491' date='Oct 25 2007, 10:22 PM'][quote name='anchorman' post='685488' date='Oct 25 2007, 09:40 PM']You mean a very long while and an awful lot of beer because nothings making any sense yet :unsure:[/quote]


:o :o Anchorman, I may need to start drinking again and join you at the pub because I'm
seeing liquerice allsorts as well. ;)
[/quote]

My round at the bar.. :drunk: , Dave ordered you a :pepsi: I've also eaten all the Liquorice Allsorts and now on the wine gums :wacko: :wacko:

Fit a tow bar or rear step and use that...or in my case dont let the wife drive it. :eek: :crybaby: :ffs: :angry: :arrgg-matey: :wub:
Fujisan
[quote name='chatman' post='685621' date='Oct 26 2007, 10:06 AM']My round at the bar.. :drunk: ,[/quote]

Make mine a large one......I need it!
JHRC
[quote name='FruitBat' post='683914' date='Oct 22 2007, 09:46 AM']No worries, Thanks for the reply Jim

Joe[/quote]

Hi Joe,

I've uploaded pictures showing position connector for rear view camera and plug I made to use original connector.

[img]http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/P1000568.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/P1000567.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/P1000566.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/P1000896.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/jimhrclark/P1000899.jpg[/img]

I hope this helps.

Jim
illogiko
[quote name='shcm' post='665638' date='Aug 26 2007, 11:54 AM'].... would give me a very useful pointer that the head unit can display other video sources apart from via the rear camera input.[/quote]

Hi shcm!
I've found something about video input of B9004 unit.
[url="http://www.novosonic.es/interfaces-multimedia.php?PHPSESSID=4fca1fc83d0e2f82583a8ecc040f61a8&pag=3"]http://www.novosonic.es/interfaces-multime...f61a8&pag=3[/url]
Go there and give a look. Price seems to be very expensive: 550€ !!! :o
Don't you think it could be possible to intercept audio/video signals from the rear ports of the unit without using the interface?

Let's go deep inside. Fabrizio
FruitBat
Hi Jim,

Your a star thanks for taking the time to post these again for me.


Joe


[quote name='JHRC' post='686306' date='Oct 28 2007, 06:15 PM'][quote name='FruitBat' post='683914' date='Oct 22 2007, 09:46 AM']No worries, Thanks for the reply Jim

Joe[/quote]

Hi Joe,

I've uploaded pictures showing position connector for rear view camera and plug I made to use original connector.


I hope this helps.

Jim
[/quote]
Fujisan
[quote name='illogiko' post='687196' date='Oct 31 2007, 02:43 PM']Let's go deep inside. Fabrizio[/quote]

Oooww-er missus! :P
shcm
[quote name='illogiko' post='687196' date='Oct 31 2007, 02:43 PM'][quote name='shcm' post='665638' date='Aug 26 2007, 11:54 AM'].... would give me a very useful pointer that the head unit can display other video sources apart from via the rear camera input.[/quote]

Hi shcm!
I've found something about video input of B9004 unit.
[url="http://www.novosonic.es/interfaces-multimedia.php?PHPSESSID=4fca1fc83d0e2f82583a8ecc040f61a8&pag=3"]http://www.novosonic.es/interfaces-multime...f61a8&pag=3[/url]
Go there and give a look. Price seems to be very expensive: 550€ !!! :o
Don't you think it could be possible to intercept audio/video signals from the rear ports of the unit without using the interface?

Let's go deep inside. Fabrizio
[/quote]

Hello Fabrizio,

my reply is over on the multimedia thread, to keep it separate from this camera thread.

Cheers
illogiko
AUDIO and VIDEO (also rev camera)

GIVE A LOOK


[url="http://it.geocities.com/illogiko/"]http://it.geocities.com/illogiko/[/url]

Fabrizio
anchorman
This is the JBL system and the Sub Woofer fits in the rear door.

[url="http://www.jbltoyota.com/Toyota_rav4/subwoofer.asp"]http://www.jbltoyota.com/Toyota_rav4/subwoofer.asp[/url]

This is the mounting enclosure.

[img]http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x133/anchorman_02/speakerenclosure.jpg[/img]
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