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OMG Dave What you do....Let the wife drive again....

Good advertisement their for not fitting the rear parking sensors....

Last note you sent said you had reversed into wall and marked the spare tyre cover...

What happened now............

Oh FF sake that is sickening.

I can't see any damage from the pics to other than the 1/4 bumper. That comes off dead easy so you can get one off kingo (even get Lindops to paint it) and just swap it yourself to save the insurance getting involved. If that is a crease at the bottom of the door it might bend back in with your hand if you are careful.

Keep your chin up mate and you can justifiably drop kick that cat for crapping in your garden and claim immunity for it.

Keep us informed mate.

Geeez, has that tailgate taken a bash too? If it has, or if the spare has taken a bump, just have a look at the spare wheel mounting bracket as well, as they very often "absorb" some of the impact and bend the spare wheel mounting bracket

Let me know if you need anything sending

Kingo

I think anger management classes are in order here as this was a direct result of road rage.

Last night I had to pick up the old in laws from train station, they were down south for christmas. My wife managed
to persuade station staff to let us right on to platform, as mother in law can barely walk. While waiting for the slowest
operating security gates in the world to open, another car pulled up behind me, trying to do the same. (turns out he
was a train driver late for work). As things are not happening fast enough for him, he starts tooting and gesticluating
behind me, red mist at this point is now purple. We both get through the gates, and as I am stopping to get out and
flatten the the wifes hauling me back in while reminding me I will get arrested and convinces me to move
and let him past. This I did and the speeds by still tooting. By this point my blood is boiling and while trying
to find a suitable stopping place without going over the platform edge I reversed into a wall. At this point
blood pressure so high I am risking a stroke. Anyway as you can see the 1/4 bumper is and the wheel arch
extension has popped out, dont think there is any other damage but its hard to tell. So before I proceed with insurance
I will get a price from Kingo. Now seriously hacked off, driving for 28-29 years never had a crash or claim, now had 2
in 8 months. Think when its sorted, me and the Rav will be parting company.

Deep breath's Dave. Nice and calm........OK!

Very sorry to read your very sad story and see the resulting damage. I hope it can all be fixed very soon. You have a wonderful RAV, that is a credit to you even when you are taking pictures of unfortunate damage.

All the best mate

Dave ma man.
Mitherwell station is no exactly friendly whither yer oan foot oar in ra car.
However it jist goes to prove that 5 doors have distinct disadvantages as that would never have happened wi a 3 door!!

Dinna try an tel me it wis yer diesel engine either cos theres plenty o diesels aroon Motherwell station that dinnae crash intae walls. Mind ye, they run on rails

cannae trust these angry train drivers - in a wuruld o there ain!!

Seriously, I hope you're able tae fix yer 5 DOOR RAV bumper etc easily so ye can trade i fur a Chinese 3 door model....??

[quote name='bothwell_buyer' post='706483' date='Dec 29 2007, 05:23 PM']Dave ma man.
Mitherwell station is no exactly friendly whither yer oan foot oar in ra car.
However it jist goes to prove that 5 doors have distinct disadvantages as that would never have happened wi a 3 door!!

Dinna try an tel me it wis yer diesel engine either cos theres plenty o diesels aroon Motherwell station that dinnae crash intae walls. Mind ye, they run on rails

cannae trust these angry train drivers - in a wuruld o there ain!!

Seriously, I hope you're able tae fix yer 5 DOOR RAV bumper etc easily so ye can trade i fur a Chinese 3 door model....?? [/quote]

Bothy such kind and sincere words....Sure Dave will take comfort in them...

Now Dave Listen....Get the RAV sorted..it's only superficial damage...I would have probably flattened the driver and sending this reply from the police cell....Don't sell it....
Think of the get together next year and the laugh we can all have...What with you being the DJ for the evening and SHCM doing the entertainment with his sock puppets....All the RAV's parked in the furthest corner of the car park with massive gaps between them....We need to align ourself's in a landing strip formation to light up the runway, ready for Wing Commander Bothy and his Phantom Jet RAV .....

wot was the number o the thread fur rear radar sensors when reversing 5 door ravs???

Dave - I'll offer ye the chance o driving ma minibus so ye can get uised tae the length...an dinna worry aboot the rear bumper cos it has the same damage - probably frae the same wall!

[quote name='chatman' post='706521' date='Dec 29 2007, 09:24 PM']Think of the get together next year and the laugh we can all have...What with you being the DJ for the evening and SHCM doing the entertainment with his sock puppets....[/quote]

That should be wild!

Dave

Now that bothy's counselling has helped you part way through this trauma I have a plan for the rest;

1. Get the bumper from Kingo and have it painted.
2. Have it sent to me.
3. Take Wifey M to see grandson.
4. Drop her off and continue south to the anchorcave (about another 30 miles) and I will fit the bumper for you and provide you with plenty of brews and you can pet Flossie. Don't worry about that bit of trim I will sort it out. It takes about one and a half hours from Preston so for half a day you/wifey can see the lad and get your car sorted for nowt (other than Kingos bill).

You will need a passout to get past the wall but just go to the gate and ask for Mickey the fish (he isn't actually a fish) who will let you through. The wall runs up to Carlisle which everybody knows is in Scotland but what they don't know is we recaptured it and put it back in England.

Now having sorted it all out we can stop this talk of ditching the RAV which gives you so much pleasure. Its not the car it is down to the train driver and I think Duncs will agree that it was probably one of the old hand BR men who have the worst attitude on planet earth. They don't know what it is like in the real world because they have been pampered for so long. There is nothing worse than somebody sounding off with the horn and your holding back from decking the @sshole is commendable. In fact if you had got out and said "boo" he would have probably gone sick for 6 months - he was probably only hacked off because he had been asked to drive a train instead of sitting on his butt watching telly in the mess room.

Remember what we told chatman when he had a calamity?

Chin up mate we'll sort it out.

[quote name='anchorman' post='706558' date='Dec 30 2007, 01:05 AM']Dave

and you can pet Flossie.[/quote]

Ow accidents suck.... hope it gets sorted quickly and at little cost.

I personally automatically react to being beeped by sticking my middle finger in the air.... fortunately havn't done it to anyone I know yet or police. Too many impatient stupid people on the roads today, worse still many don't even appear to know how to overtake sensibly....

I hope the one that bugged you gets his much deserved comeuppance real soon....

Just seen this Dave, my Sympathies.

My advice would be try not to over react about getting rid of the RAV. We all feel a bit like that (well I do anyway), if we get a scrape.

I also hate the idea of body shops "fixing" it. However, the offers of a certain kind gent on here means you shouldn't have that worry and I'm sure when it's fixed you'll soon feel much better about it.

Yes, there are some impatient (and dangerous) a*seh*les about. Makes you want to buy a second hand tank (but it would be a diesel I suppose and I couldn't afford the gallons per mile).

Cheers

[quote name='Fujisan' post='706549' date='Dec 30 2007, 12:39 AM'][quote name='chatman' post='706521' date='Dec 29 2007, 09:24 PM']Think of the get together next year and the laugh we can all have...What with you being the DJ for the evening and SHCM doing the entertainment with his sock puppets....[/quote]

That should be wild!
[/quote]

Yeah, the evening should just fly by

Sorry to see Christmas as not been good to you Dave but on the plus side... you're not going to court with an assault charge against you in the new year or worse the other guy could of have had a knife ....keep smiling mate !

Hi Dave,

I'm new to TOC and am sad to see your poor Rav is looking poorly. Looks like the boys on here will get you all sorted though.... My Rav Rowan is still nursing two teeth marks on the bonnet where someones horrid horse tried to eat him! So I am in total appreciation to where you are coming from and how gutted you must be feeling... And please don't sell your Rav...

Good luck with the fixing....

Rowan




[quote name='Bob King' post='706613' date='Dec 30 2007, 01:14 PM']Sorry to see Christmas as not been good to you Dave but on the plus side... you're not going to court with an assault charge against you in the new year or worse the other guy could of have had a knife ....keep smiling mate ![/quote]

Thank you all for your kind words, you have cheered this plonker up no end

As for changing the Rav, well if you remember a while back on another thread about the amount of cars I have had
I told you my wife will divorce me if I get rid of the Rav (that could be worth thinking about ). Any way she
called my bluff yesterday by asking what I would change it for ? That stumped me, still cant give an answer, other
than maybe a 4.3. But as the diesel 4.3's are very expensive, I cant see that happening any time soon so looks like
Nemo is here for a while yet. When Kingo gets back to me with price of bumper I will decide wether to do it myself or
get insurance involved. Worry is that if I do it and then find other damage, so will wait and see.

So there I was today at Hadrians wall flashing my butt at you lot again and none of you were in sight
Thats the second sunday in a row. I was down collecting my niece and two great nephews who are coming up for new year.
Her poor husband had to stay ay home and look after the pub. Oh dear life is so hard

Glad you're feeling Better about things Dave.

[quote name='dave.m' post='706633' date='Dec 30 2007, 03:25 PM']So there I was today at Hadrians wall flashing my butt at you lot again and none of you were in sight [/quote]

Well of course not . The lads were , I was camouflaged as a sock and Anchormatey may have had his fleece disguise on. Mind you, you did crack the lenses on the lads binoculars at 500 yards

[quote name='dave.m' post='706633' date='Dec 30 2007, 03:25 PM']Thats the second sunday in a row. I was down collecting my niece and two great nephews who are coming up for new year.
Her poor husband had to stay ay home and look after the pub. Oh dear life is so hard [/quote]

What a choice! Hogmanay or New Year in a pub. Some people get all the luck

[quote name='shcm' post='706644' date='Dec 30 2007, 04:33 PM']Glad you're feeling Better about things Dave.

Well of course not . The lads were , I was camouflaged as a sock and Anchormatey may have had his fleece disguise on. Mind you, you did crack the lenses on the lads binoculars at 500 yards [/quote]

I was in the flock of sheep speed dating with flossy...

Also I hear the young lad above had to be stretchered away with severe post traumatic stress disorder, following the lens cracking incident, and is now receiving counselling and 24/7 care following the sight he saw....Not spoken yet just has the 1000 yard stare

[quote name='chatman' post='706687' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:37 PM']I was in the flock of sheep speed dating with flossy... [/quote]

ah, would that be one baa for "no", two baas for "yes" and three baas for "[b]Yes[/b] [size=4][b]Yes[/b][/size] [size=6][b]Yes[/b][/size]..............again please"? I know the drill! .

There's a serious (?) point here. Flossy's bleeting, could blow our cover. She needs to be taught to baa in a Cumbrian accent, to blend in with the rest of the flock

[quote name='chatman' post='706687' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:37 PM']Also I hear the young lad above had to be stretchered away with severe post traumatic stress disorder, following the lens cracking incident, and is now receiving counselling and 24/7 care following the sight he saw....Not spoken yet just has the 1000 yard stare [/quote]

:lol2:

Yes, that "Devils in Skirts" (Carry On Up The Khyber) manoeuvre, has a lot to answer for. Highly dangerous weapon. Should be banned under international treaty IMHO. .

Anyone for Tiffin by the way?

[quote name='dave.m' post='706633' date='Dec 30 2007, 03:25 PM']Thank you all for your kind words, you have cheered this plonker up no end

As for changing the Rav, well if you remember a while back on another thread about the amount of cars I have had
I told you my wife will divorce me if I get rid of the Rav (that could be worth thinking about ). Any way she
called my bluff yesterday by asking what I would change it for ? That stumped me, still cant give an answer, other
than maybe a 4.3. But as the diesel 4.3's are very expensive, I cant see that happening any time soon so looks like
Nemo is here for a while yet.[/quote]

[quote name='chatman' post='706687' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:37 PM'][quote name='shcm' post='706644' date='Dec 30 2007, 04:33 PM']Glad you're feeling Better about things Dave.

Well of course not . The lads were , I was camouflaged as a sock and Anchormatey may have had his fleece disguise on. Mind you, you did crack the lenses on the lads binoculars at 500 yards [/quote]

I was in the flock of sheep speed dating with flossy...

Also I hear the young lad above had to be stretchered away with severe post traumatic stress disorder, following the lens cracking incident, and is now receiving counselling and 24/7 care following the sight he saw....Not spoken yet just has the 1000 yard stare
[/quote]

Hey, your going to give my RRRR'S a complex

[quote name='shcm' post='706695' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:10 PM']Anyone for Tiffin by the way?[/quote]

Think Chatman and Flossy have got that covered!!

[quote name='dave.m' post='706697' date='Dec 30 2007, 08:13 PM'][quote name='chatman' post='706687' date='Dec 30 2007, 07:37 PM'][quote name='shcm' post='706644' date='Dec 30 2007, 04:33 PM']Glad you're feeling Better about things Dave.

Well of course not . The lads were , I was camouflaged as a sock and Anchormatey may have had his fleece disguise on. Mind you, you did crack the lenses on the lads binoculars at 500 yards [/quote]

I was in the flock of sheep speed dating with flossy...

Also I hear the young lad above had to be stretchered away with severe post traumatic stress disorder, following the lens cracking incident, and is now receiving counselling and 24/7 care following the sight he saw....Not spoken yet just has the 1000 yard stare
[/quote]

Hey, your going to give my RRRR'S a complex
[/quote]

If it's good enough for Mel Gibson.......

Dave, what have you done!!
Anyway, looks like you're felling a bit better now, and have come to your senses re selling up.
Hope you get it sorted with the minimum of fuss.

BTW, what a great offer from anchorman. No, not helping you fix your bumper for you, but flossie

What worries me is I was in the flock of sheep speed dating flossie as well - or at least I thought I was.

.....................anyway, good things these RAVs ya know

Main thing is we got our DJ Dave smash nicey back - complete with the RAV.

PS I think it was bothy breaking the sound barrier that did the lenses.

Sing along with flossie.

dinnae ken whit aw the fuss is aboot.
A layer o haggis leftovers frae the nicht; some steak pie pastry and itll be richt as rain.

If a bumpers no fur taking bumps, then whits the fn thing fur???


In future, fir a rear bullbar! Bldn 5 doors !

[quote name='anchorman' post='706735' date='Dec 30 2007, 10:59 PM']PS I think it was bothy breaking the sound barrier that did the lenses.[/quote]

Yes I think you are right. Dave's RRRRRRs is innocent. Apologies Dave.

I've also worked out that Bothy's 3 door RAV LS ([b]L[/b]ight [b]S[/b]peed) is in fact a 5 door. It is travelling so fast, that due to Lorentz contraction (if you don't know, wikipedia does), to the observer, the apparent shortening makes it look like a 3 door.

[quote name='shcm' post='706781' date='Dec 31 2007, 08:14 AM'][quote name='anchorman' post='706735' date='Dec 30 2007, 10:59 PM']PS I think it was bothy breaking the sound barrier that did the lenses.[/quote]

Yes I think you are right. Dave's RRRRRRs is innocent. Apologies Dave.

I've also worked out that Bothy's 3 door RAV LS ([b]L[/b]ight [b]S[/b]peed) is in fact a 5 door. It is travelling so fast, that due to Lorentz contraction (if you don't know, wikipedia does), to the observer, the apparent shortening makes it look like a 3 door.
[/quote]

Weel the same disnae wurk wi ma silhoette - mair like a blackning cloud oer the horizon.....

An tae mak suir ye craters areny at it, ahm gonnae have ma twa sunrooves welded shut case ye caw them doors an aw!

[quote name='bothwell_buyer' post='706793' date='Dec 31 2007, 09:49 AM']An tae mak suir ye craters areny at it, ahm gonnae have ma twa sunrooves welded shut case ye caw them doors an aw![/quote]

Is it not flight safety procedures to have an exit option should the need to use the ejector seat, become apparent....

[quote name='chatman' post='706915' date='Dec 31 2007, 06:33 PM'][quote name='bothwell_buyer' post='706793' date='Dec 31 2007, 09:49 AM']An tae mak suir ye craters areny at it, ahm gonnae have ma twa sunrooves welded shut case ye caw them doors an aw![/quote]

Is it not flight safety procedures to have an exit option should the need to use the ejector seat, become apparent....
[/quote]
Haw, 4.2 door essex man - dis Jeremy clarkson Ken yer aroon toon???

Ah dinna need an injector seat cos ah run wi petrol. Ah jist waer fireproof pants an the rest will act as insulation.....

[quote name='RowanR4' post='706623' date='Dec 30 2007, 02:38 PM']Hi Dave,

I'm new to TOC and am sad to see your poor Rav is looking poorly. Looks like the boys on here will get you all sorted though.... My Rav Rowan is still nursing two teeth marks on the bonnet where someones horrid horse tried to eat him! : ![/quote]


A horse tried to eat your RAV? *boggle*

How? (& Why?)

That has to be a story worth telling!

[quote name='vasilikon' post='707179' date='Jan 1 2008, 11:56 PM'][quote name='RowanR4' post='706623' date='Dec 30 2007, 02:38 PM']Hi Dave,

I'm new to TOC and am sad to see your poor Rav is looking poorly. Looks like the boys on here will get you all sorted though.... My Rav Rowan is still nursing two teeth marks on the bonnet where someones horrid horse tried to eat him! : ![/quote]


A horse tried to eat your RAV? *boggle*

How? (& Why?)

That has to be a story worth telling!
[/quote]

Well I was afraid to ask in case I made an @ss of myself but thankfully somebody has taken the bit between the teeth. I didn't want to be saddled with asking. Come on Rowan even Jimkhana fix this, you'll have to tell us - we want it straight from the horses mouth. Which donkey bit your car?

[quote name='anchorman' post='707184' date='Jan 1 2008, 10:18 PM']Well I was afraid to ask in case I made an @ss of myself but thankfully somebody has taken the bit between the teeth. I didn't want to be saddled with asking. Come on Rowan even Jimkhana fix this, you'll have to tell us - we want it straight from the horses mouth. Which donkey bit your car?[/quote]

Oh dear! What have I started .....

Well risked the -2 deg C yesterday and fitted new 1/4 bumper so all sorted now. Did not have time for photo

but its back to looking like this (except a lot filthier ) -

[img]http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/ailrav/rav-1.jpg[/img]

So its a big thanks to Kingo for a good job on getting the parts (painted ), Anchorman and others for offers of help.

Dave

You guys rock.

Thats more like it! As soon as this weather picks up mine is going to get some polish.

Will you have another RAV or something else?

Cheers

[quote name='anchorman' post='711000' date='Jan 13 2008, 09:09 PM']Thats more like it! As soon as this weather picks up mine is going to get some polish.

Will you have another RAV or something else?

Cheers[/quote]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, would like a 4.3 but is it just me or do the rest of you think paying 20K plus for a car

is wrong ? (ok some of you have, and still getting over it ). Of course my wife being my wife (car snob ?) says

it can only be another Rav or another Beemer (been there done that )

I had a 318 touring (2000 my) and it was superb in terms of comfort but what a nail in terms of reliability. It was always in for repair so it put me off owning one. I think if you put your best negotiating head on you would get a XTR diesel for less than £20k and a petrol for proportionately less.

So...............what will it be???

[quote name='dave.m' post='711005' date='Jan 13 2008, 09:22 PM'][quote name='anchorman' post='711000' date='Jan 13 2008, 09:09 PM']Thats more like it! As soon as this weather picks up mine is going to get some polish.

Will you have another RAV or something else?

Cheers[/quote]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, would like a 4.3 but is it just me or do the rest of you think paying 20K plus for a car

is wrong ? (ok some of you have, and still getting over it ). Of course my wife being my wife (car snob ?) says

it can only be another Rav or another Beemer (been there done that )
[/quote]
Funny one.... I paid £20k+ in 1994 so that must make me mad???

One thing from the photo - where's the tow hook and bullbar?? You know - the one that saves cracking yer rear bumper...???

[quote name='dave.m' post='711005' date='Jan 13 2008, 09:22 PM']Hmmmmmmmmmmm, would like a 4.3 but is it just me or do the rest of you think paying 20K plus for a car

is wrong ? (ok some of you have, and still getting over it ). Of course my wife being my wife (car snob ?) says

it can only be another Rav or another Beemer (been there done that )[/quote]

Dave

What Car quote a target price of £19,822 for the XT-R D4D (£18,506 for petrol), and with a mint part exchange you could save yourself some serious money!

If you don't mind waiting, the ex-demo D4D's go for around 3k less. (A bit like [url="http://arnoldclarkglasgow.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyota/bv/generic_editorial.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0448742043.1200305974@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceaddmmklkkdlcfngcfkmdfkidfgh.0&navRoot=toyotaDealers&dealerId=06437&portal=null&fullwidth=TRUE&edname=D_usedcars&PageBgr=01&catname=toyotaDealers%2fmain_nav&menuid=59734&zone=-1&skin=-101&id=D_used_cars"]THIS ONE[/url] )

Also Dave I would have a go at selling that privately. There are people that would give their right arm for your motor in that condition. Put it in auto trader near top book and see what happens. What can you lose?

It also puts you in a strong position to negotiate a discount on the new one.

Good luck

[quote name='anchorman' post='711251' date='Jan 14 2008, 05:02 PM']Also Dave I would have a go at selling that privately. There are people that would give their right arm for your motor in that condition. Put it in auto trader near top book and see what happens. What can you lose?

It also puts you in a strong position to negotiate a discount on the new one.

Good luck[/quote]
What if its the left arm?? The aul mans 89 ra moro and ah cuid donate his left arm for a price oer consideration...?

[quote name='dave.m' post='710972' date='Jan 13 2008, 07:31 PM']Well risked the -2 deg C yesterday and fitted new 1/4 bumper so all sorted now. Did not have time for photo

but its back to looking like this (except a lot filthier ) -

[img]http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/ailrav/rav-1.jpg[/img]

So its a big thanks to Kingo for a good job on getting the parts (painted ), Anchorman and others for offers of help.

Dave

You guys rock.[/quote]


Glad everything has been sorted now!