I have been getting large volumes of white smoke from my verso t180, it is 2 years old and has done 60k. It has been in the main dealers for investigation however they can not find a fault. They have even had a regional expert looking at it, he claims that this smoke comes from the 5th injector cleaning through the system and is quite normal. I am not convinced as when it happens there is alot of smoke, much more than a puff. Anybody any ideas or had a similar problem

[quote name='johnjks1' post='878217' date='Apr 10 2009, 07:25 PM']I have been getting large volumes of white smoke from my verso t180, it is 2 years old and has done 60k. It has been in the main dealers for investigation however they can not find a fault. They have even had a regional expert looking at it, he claims that this smoke comes from the 5th injector cleaning through the system and is quite normal. I am not convinced as when it happens there is alot of smoke, much more than a puff. Anybody any ideas or had a similar problem[/quote]

Hi

When you say large volumes do you mean all the time, when cold, hot, accelerating, tick over etc.... some more info needed to help diagnose but I can't believe it "should" be happening, there is absolutely none from mine......

Pete

Had similar issue, looked like a low level red arrows display with the amount of white smoke coming from the exhaust. Had the dealer explain the 5th injector technology; not convinced but could find no obvious fault when it went in for a front disk replacement. Had the fault occur when pulling away from the morning rush hour M25 Q's where the car had been moving slowly for an hour or so. Dealer did comment that a head gasket failure is not unheard of at 60K miles; suspect another trip back to the dealer.

[quote name='johnjks1' post='878217' date='Apr 10 2009, 07:25 PM']I have been getting large volumes of white smoke from my verso t180, it is 2 years old and has done 60k. It has been in the main dealers for investigation however they can not find a fault. They have even had a regional expert looking at it, he claims that this smoke comes from the 5th injector cleaning through the system and is quite normal. I am not convinced as when it happens there is alot of smoke, much more than a puff. Anybody any ideas or had a similar problem[/quote]

Hi new to the forum, did you manage to resolve the situation, my first thoughts were a head gasket, are you losing coolant.

Not had my T180 long but had a long run and during the trip I experienced the "white smoke" in my rear view mirror and, in the words of mikeT180, it looked like a red arrows flyby. It didn't last that long but it happened again about 100 miles down the road (3 times in total I had the "white smoke"), doesn't do it around town though. searched the internet and asked a few "experts", but to no avail, can I ask if you (johnjks1) have found out what your findings was ????, curious to say the least !!!!.

[quote]Unlike many other particulate filters, the Toyota DPF catalytic converter is `self-cleaning’, hence is maintenance free throughout the life of the vehicle. An exhaust fuel injection is used to raise the DPF catalyst temperature on a controlled basis and the particles burn off to clear the filter pores. This process requires the addition of a fifth fuel injector which is placed in the exhaust manifold.
Other enhancements to the 2.2 D-4D 135 engine include the fitting of ceramic glow plugs with a higher operating temperature than conventional plugs. These improve low temperature starting and reduce white smoke.[/quote] Source [url="http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/05/03/toyota-reveals-2008-corolla-verso/"]http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/05/03/toyot...-corolla-verso/[/url]

[quote name='hertsnminds' post='954332' date='Dec 22 2009, 10:45 AM'][quote]Unlike many other particulate filters, the Toyota DPF catalytic converter is `self-cleaning’, hence is maintenance free throughout the life of the vehicle. An exhaust fuel injection is used to raise the DPF catalyst temperature on a controlled basis and the particles burn off to clear the filter pores. This process requires the addition of a fifth fuel injector which is placed in the exhaust manifold.
Other enhancements to the 2.2 D-4D 135 engine include the fitting of ceramic glow plugs with a higher operating temperature than conventional plugs. These improve low temperature starting and reduce white smoke.[/quote] Source [url="http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/05/03/toyota-reveals-2008-corolla-verso/"]http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/05/03/toyot...-corolla-verso/[/url]
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Just returned from the dealers, spoke to the man in servicing dept regarding "white smoke" from my corolla verso T180, no hesitation in replying " we do have an issue with the 2AD engines regarding the head gaskets......... No speile about DPF, 5th injector technology, Dpnr, regen etc etc. It looks like my worst fears have arisen. I will know 100% on monday when the car goes in. Thanks for PARTFINDER for his usual fine coms and will let other T180 "smokers" know the full monty after monday GULP.

[quote name='Kopnut' post='971119' date='Feb 10 2010, 03:16 PM']. Thanks for [b]PARTFINDER[/b] for his usual fine coms and will let other T180 "smokers" know the full monty after monday GULP.[/quote]

Who?

Kingo

lots of white smoke when pulling away, after idling for a period etc , james bond smoke screens....


from my experience this has always typified turbocharger failure (oil seals) one can normally smell the oil burning.

[quote name='skintbinlid' date='Feb 10 2010, 04:13 PM' post='971129']
lots of white smoke when pulling away, after idling for a period etc , james bond smoke screens....


from my experience this has always typified turbocharger failure (oil seals) one can normally smell the oil burning.
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[quote name='Parts-King' post='971122' date='Feb 10 2010, 03:30 PM'][quote name='Kopnut' post='971119' date='Feb 10 2010, 03:16 PM']. Thanks for [b]PARTFINDER[/b] for his usual fine coms and will let other T180 "smokers" know the full monty after monday GULP.[/quote]

Who?

Kingo
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Sorry Kingo, Parts-King, lol !!!!

Kopnut : have you checked your oil levels, it it using any?

Oil levels a-ok, but my coolant has , as much as I don't want to say it, dropped slightly in the last 1k miles

Just to let people who have been following my saga with Mr T, had car in for investigation into white/grey smoke emissions. give the man the full spiel about what the problem is, which is big (and I mean BIG !!!) plumes of white/ grey smoke being kicked out every now and then, as I couldn't be more specific , Mr T asked if he could have the car for the day to see if they could witness the problem first hand. I duly booked the car in and 9am on a monday morning, promptly dropped the car off. 2 hours later they rang and said that they have road tested my car and that its running A1 and couldn't find a problem. You can imagine my happiness about the request to have the car for a "whole day" only for it to be returned by dinner time none the wiser, so hopefully I can ask you techies out there to help me in my quest to find out where this "smoke" is coming from.
Coolant level has only dropped 1/4" in 3months, oil hasn't moved on the dipstick since I have had it, thanks to info on this site, I have meticulously cleaned the egr valve but all this to no avail, my corolla verso 2.2 D-cat is still randomly kicking out large plumes of white/grey smoke, and to add, I followed the wife in my car her car to see if i could smell anything, its odourless too !!!, no burning oil smell, nothing.
So, techies out there, you know as much as I do about this mysterious "smoke" that toyota can't find an answer to.
"HEEEEELP !!!! please.

[quote name='Kopnut' date='04 March 2010 - 12:18 PM' timestamp='1267705127' post='980322']
Just to let people who have been following my saga with Mr T, had car in for investigation into white/grey smoke emissions. give the man the full spiel about what the problem is, which is big (and I mean BIG !!!) plumes of white/ grey smoke being kicked out every now and then, as I couldn't be more specific , Mr T asked if he could have the car for the day to see if they could witness the problem first hand. I duly booked the car in and 9am on a monday morning, promptly dropped the car off. 2 hours later they rang and said that they have road tested my car and that its running A1 and couldn't find a problem. You can imagine my happiness about the request to have the car for a "whole day" only for it to be returned by dinner time none the wiser, so hopefully I can ask you techies out there to help me in my quest to find out where this "smoke" is coming from.
Coolant level has only dropped 1/4" in 3months, oil hasn't moved on the dipstick since I have had it, thanks to info on this site, I have meticulously cleaned the egr valve but all this to no avail, my corolla verso 2.2 D-cat is still randomly kicking out large plumes of white/grey smoke, and to add, I followed the wife in my car her car to see if i could smell anything, its odourless too !!!, no burning oil smell, nothing.
So, techies out there, you know as much as I do about this mysterious "smoke" that toyota can't find an answer to.
"HEEEEELP !!!! please.
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Hi kopnut, i know this is a bit cheeky, and not much help to you, but i was wondering if you can tell me where the egr valve is on corolla verso, as i was thinking of cleaning it as my EML, DSC and TRC OFF lights have come on and some people say that fixes it? thanks.

[quote name='VD4D' date='15 March 2010 - 10:22 PM' timestamp='1268691766' post='984278']
[quote name='Kopnut' date='04 March 2010 - 12:18 PM' timestamp='1267705127' post='980322']
Just to let people who have been following my saga with Mr T, had car in for investigation into white/grey smoke emissions. give the man the full spiel about what the problem is, which is big (and I mean BIG !!!) plumes of white/ grey smoke being kicked out every now and then, as I couldn't be more specific , Mr T asked if he could have the car for the day to see if they could witness the problem first hand. I duly booked the car in and 9am on a monday morning, promptly dropped the car off. 2 hours later they rang and said that they have road tested my car and that its running A1 and couldn't find a problem. You can imagine my happiness about the request to have the car for a "whole day" only for it to be returned by dinner time none the wiser, so hopefully I can ask you techies out there to help me in my quest to find out where this "smoke" is coming from.
Coolant level has only dropped 1/4" in 3months, oil hasn't moved on the dipstick since I have had it, thanks to info on this site, I have meticulously cleaned the egr valve but all this to no avail, my corolla verso 2.2 D-cat is still randomly kicking out large plumes of white/grey smoke, and to add, I followed the wife in my car her car to see if i could smell anything, its odourless too !!!, no burning oil smell, nothing.
So, techies out there, you know as much as I do about this mysterious "smoke" that toyota can't find an answer to.
"HEEEEELP !!!! please.
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Hi kopnut, i know this is a bit cheeky, and not much help to you, but i was wondering if you can tell me where the egr valve is on corolla verso, as i was thinking of cleaning it as my EML, DSC and TRC OFF lights have come on and some people say that fixes it? thanks.
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Hi there, you can find out all you need to know by following this link, hope this helps.http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=106241&view=findpost&p=966775

[quote name='Kopnut' date='16 March 2010 - 10:55 AM' timestamp='1268736939' post='984435']
[quote name='VD4D' date='15 March 2010 - 10:22 PM' timestamp='1268691766' post='984278']
[quote name='Kopnut' date='04 March 2010 - 12:18 PM' timestamp='1267705127' post='980322']
Just to let people who have been following my saga with Mr T, had car in for investigation into white/grey smoke emissions. give the man the full spiel about what the problem is, which is big (and I mean BIG !!!) plumes of white/ grey smoke being kicked out every now and then, as I couldn't be more specific , Mr T asked if he could have the car for the day to see if they could witness the problem first hand. I duly booked the car in and 9am on a monday morning, promptly dropped the car off. 2 hours later they rang and said that they have road tested my car and that its running A1 and couldn't find a problem. You can imagine my happiness about the request to have the car for a "whole day" only for it to be returned by dinner time none the wiser, so hopefully I can ask you techies out there to help me in my quest to find out where this "smoke" is coming from.
Coolant level has only dropped 1/4" in 3months, oil hasn't moved on the dipstick since I have had it, thanks to info on this site, I have meticulously cleaned the egr valve but all this to no avail, my corolla verso 2.2 D-cat is still randomly kicking out large plumes of white/grey smoke, and to add, I followed the wife in my car her car to see if i could smell anything, its odourless too !!!, no burning oil smell, nothing.
So, techies out there, you know as much as I do about this mysterious "smoke" that toyota can't find an answer to.
"HEEEEELP !!!! please.
[/quote]
Hi kopnut, i know this is a bit cheeky, and not much help to you, but i was wondering if you can tell me where the egr valve is on corolla verso, as i was thinking of cleaning it as my EML, DSC and TRC OFF lights have come on and some people say that fixes it? thanks.
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Hi there, you can find out all you need to know by following this link, hope this helps.http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=106241&view=findpost&p=966775
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Thanks, i did see than originally, but it was for auris and when i took of the engine cover i could not see anything that resembled that on the verso, maybe i'll take another look.