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#1 gus100

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 12:47 PM

Hello,

I am considering buying a 2007 Rav4 2.2 d-cat 177hp having 50.000Km.

This morning I discussed with a Toyota dealer and he told me that I should NOT buy this car if I drive only for short distances because this will damage the catalytic converter and the engine.

I drive each day 15km to my work and 15Km back home.

Can anybody tell me if the dealer is right or not?

Thanks!

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 03:04 PM

Hello,

I am considering buying a 2007 Rav4 2.2 d-cat 177hp having 50.000Km.

This morning I discussed with a Toyota dealer and he told me that I should NOT buy this car if I drive only for short distances because this will damage the catalytic converter and the engine.

I drive each day 15km to my work and 15Km back home.

Can anybody tell me if the dealer is right or not?

Thanks!

hello and welcome.

I guess the same argument must apply to any diesel engined vehicle travelling that distance. I wonder what the drivers do in Japan as they don't drive long distance either!!

Personally I would say that was nonsense.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 06:06 PM

thank you for your answer.

the question is if it is a good idea to buy that car or not?

I have seen on this site that this type of engine (2.2 d-cat) has some problems (turbo, sensors, valves, etc).

I wonder if these are only singular cases or this is an engine with a bad design.


So, can anybody advise me on buying or not that car?








Hello,

I am considering buying a 2007 Rav4 2.2 d-cat 177hp having 50.000Km.

This morning I discussed with a Toyota dealer and he told me that I should NOT buy this car if I drive only for short distances because this will damage the catalytic converter and the engine.

I drive each day 15km to my work and 15Km back home.

Can anybody tell me if the dealer is right or not?

Thanks!

hello and welcome.

I guess the same argument must apply to any diesel engined vehicle travelling that distance. I wonder what the drivers do in Japan as they don't drive long distance either!!

Personally I would say that was nonsense.



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Posted 13 October 2010 - 10:02 PM

I have answered your pm.

I would say as long as you use good quality HIGH GRADE fuel the car will be absolutely fine.

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 02:26 PM

Hello,

I am considering buying a 2007 Rav4 2.2 d-cat 177hp having 50.000Km.

This morning I discussed with a Toyota dealer and he told me that I should NOT buy this car if I drive only for short distances because this will damage the catalytic converter and the engine.

I drive each day 15km to my work and 15Km back home.

Can anybody tell me if the dealer is right or not?

Thanks!



Your dealer is likely to be referring to the fact that the car has DPF.

If that is the case then his opinion is valid and if you generally only do short distances in a car with DPF, the advice would be dont bother.

Diesel is not the issue here except for economical reasons, the issue here is with the DPF which is prone to blockage and unable to regenerate if short distant driving is all it has.

These DPF problems are well documented.

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:17 PM

Out of interest, does that mean that the (bog standard, not D-CAT) 2.2 D4D 140 does NOT have a DPF?

I did my obligatory 5 minute googlin' but couldn't quite find it... Did find that the BMW X3 I was lusting after for a while does, making it useless to me as my daily commute is <5 miles in town.

If my 07 XTR 2.2 does have a DPF, than either I am in for an expensive repair soon :( / or the car with a DPF is fine for loads of short runs.

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:42 PM

really sorry, whats a DPF :unsure: Stew

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:49 PM

I don't know, don't we teach you anything on this forum? :unsure: :lol:

DPF = Diesel Particulate Filter (I was trying to think of a rude acronym, but failed miserably).

No, my understanding is the UK 140 (130?) D4D does not have a DPF. (The additional injector in the exhaust stuff goes with it - no thanks not for me!).

I believe it can be fitted to 140 D4Ds in some markets. The T180 has is by default.

I'm sure somebody from coldest Derbyshire will be along to correct me, if I am at all wrong!

Cheers :thumbsup:

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:50 PM

No worries. I believe it stands for: "Diesel Particulate Filter". There are issues with "re-gen cycles" and short trips where the engine doesn't warm up properly. I'll try to dig up some links for you...

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:57 PM

DOH. Too late again :)

Thanks shcm. :thumbsup: That is good news, I think. :)

Although I have now started revising my policy of: "I only do 6000 miles per year = no point doing an intermediary service / oil change every 6 months." in light of your (and AM's) recent posts + this short-trip issue.

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