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#11 gloucester

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 09:06 AM

Questions, Questions, Questions. We'll all just have to wait and see. It does look very nice though. A bit like some other new models out now. Jazz, possibly? I won't be getting one for a while as I've just bought the current model. Got a good deal on it as well I think, see my post from the 20th,as long as it's as reliable as the other 2 Toyotas I've had. Regards.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 10:01 AM

At last someone at Toyota has found a bit of sense and maybe they've seen/listened to all the negative opinions of the MMT? Could this be the end of Toyota's venture into MMT and it is now gradually destined for the scrapheap of failure? I wonder how many potential return customers, like myself, they've lost because of this "experiment"?
I'm driving a Honda Jazz at the moment CVT(7) with manual facility and if Toyota's version is the same then it's an excellent transmission.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 05:41 PM

This does seem like Toyota, along with some others, will go over to CVT. I can imagine the CVT 'box being more expensive to make. I've looked at many videos and forums on them and they do seem like quite clever engineering. I'm on my second Yaris with MMT and no problems yet. Gear change is smooth under normal driving. Not really a system for boy-racers though. Except maybe with paddle shifters! Now those do I like. My wife tells me off if I use them too much. She likes the auto bit. Have there been any problems with Toyotas fitted with CVT?
I remember CVT from many years ago and they were not good at all. Daf Dafodil anyone? Regards.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 05:49 PM

Just a comment on the post about MMT being destined for the scrapheap of failure. Toyota aren't the only ones to have used them. Honda, I think Mitsubishi and Mazda as well.Let me know I imagine it's taken a while to get CVT 'boxes up to standard. I wonder with so many cars using them will we see problems emerging? Still quite a few makers not using them and fitting 'boxes that increase CO2 and MPG. Regards.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 06:50 PM

If it's a friction driven CVT I'm not going anywhere near it!

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 06:54 PM

If it's a friction driven CVT I'm not going anywhere near it!



With a 5 year warranty, why not?

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 07:20 PM

Kia have a 7 year warranty but I still wouldn't get one :lol:

Long warranty's are nice but the reliability is more important... The long warranty is of small comfort if the car is in the garage all the time!

CVTs are super smooth but they have a bad reputation for long-term reliability, esp. in high torque situations (Accelerating, towing, going up hills, carrying large loads...) and I personally don't think they have proven themselves yet...

The eCVT in the HSD is miles better - All the benefits and none of the downsides!

If I was going to get an automatic Yaris Mk3, I'd deffo pick the HSD version over a CVT any day of the week!

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 01:20 PM

CVTs work OK # if the oil is changed regularly (See Jazz every 24k miles)
But I would not buy one either...

# edit: but not Ford ones: disastrous...

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 03:01 PM

Friction driven? Does that mean no belt? I read that Nissan use a system like that I think. Can anyone give answer on that? Regards.

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 03:07 PM

Quick question. What´s an eCVT compared to CVT? Regards.

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