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Our car went in for the Summer tyre change today. When I was being handed my keys back, I was told on the free inspection they had noted that the Puncture Sealant has expired. What did I want to do? Well, that was relatively easy as due to the bone disease I have and so on, I couldn't change the wheel anyway. So, would have to wait for RAC to arrive. Still, I am going to buy one of those Tyre Sealant canisters from? Best answers and best type to get for our iQ on a postcard please.

Much appreciate the help from this marvellous forum.

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What a coincidence....

Last wednesday I had exactly the same...

The iQ had it's first yearly test... and a big checkup (4th year)...

" The sealant is overdue (Oct.2013) and it will cost 75 euro to replace, sir ... "

I friendly said: no... damn...

Car was bought april 2010 / repair stuff is good for 4 years...but has an expire date of October 2013? Weird... Very short lifespan... a sparetirehomebringerthing would be cheaper... I am going to look for the space under the rear seats for some spare thing.

I am sure that this stuff does NOT expire... but due regulations you have to pay to replace something that is terrible to use when you have a flat on a very windy road...during very dark night and rain and stuff...

Hope it never happens.

But a tire always goes bad when you are driving and NOT when standing still in front of your house :-(

Until now all of my broken/flat tires have occurred due to a flaw in the road...something sharp on the side...or a curb... And always the tire was not repairable.

I have a (next to the guuh stuff) a Halfords bottle with pressurized rubber stuff that you can squirt in the wheel... Should work ...

Also our ANWB (roadhelppeople) have a spare in there van ....

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This I remember from a more recent post, and I think it looks like it will do the job, if required. Like everyone else on here, hope I never need it. At that price it's a steal compared to what Mr. T charge for their stuff. Not that I know, but, I'm just surmising that it's bound to be more expensive than the 'Slime.' Besides anything else, you just have to love that name. Policeman pulls up as you're pumping your tyre back up... "What did you put in there sir?" You smile and say, "Slime, officer." Oh yeah, Slime's good.

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What a coincidence....

Last wednesday I had exactly the same... The iQ had it's first yearly test... and a big checkup (4th year)... " The sealant is overdue (Oct.2013) and it will cost 75 euro to replace, sir ... " I friendly said: no... damn...

Car was bought April 2010 / repair stuff is good for 4 years...but has an expire date of October 2013? Weird... Very short lifespan... a spare tire home bringer thing would be cheaper... I am going to look for the space under the rear seats for some spare thing.

I am sure that this stuff does NOT expire... but due regulations you have to pay to replace something that is terrible to use when you have a flat on a very windy road...during very dark night and rain and stuff...

Hope it never happens. But a tire always goes bad when you are driving and NOT when standing still in front of your house :-(

Until now all of my broken/flat tires have occurred due to a flaw in the road...something sharp on the side...or a curb... And always the tire was not repairable. I have a (next to the guuh stuff) a Halfords bottle with pressurized rubber stuff that you can squirt in the wheel... Should work ... Also our ANWB (roadhelppeople) have a spare in there van ....

Peter, That is a coincidence... or is it? I'm thinking it is all a big scam we motorists have yet to wake up to! I still have to remove my useless gunk from the car. It is a very short lifespan considering what it is. Still, I always thought that it was an overcomplicated set up and after all, why bother with something like that when they could have partnered up with a company that already produces the stuff. Maybe, this was a ploy to make more money from customers? Am I cynical or what? I bet other car manufacturing companies are up to the same game. Why put in a wheel and spare tyre when you keep making money from unused (assuming you don't get a puncture, then they still get money if you do) gunk in your boot? I mean, they're already fleecing everyone because you can bet they didn't take the price of a spare wheel/tyre combo off the list price!

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Exactly Bob.... sooo true...

I bet that if one tries...one can make a spare wheel of flat alloy with a hard tire-like rim..as a home-comer...for just about 75 euros... Must be possible...

At least there is a spare space down under in the back for this...and it is not a used space...

I think someone has already posted about this... David???

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Presume the predicted life of the tyre repair can has something to do with an expected loss of propellant over a period of time, rather than the sealant becoming ineffective. Suppose the expiry date is from the manufacturing date of the car, rather than the first registration date.

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Presume the predicted life of the tyre repair can has something to do with an expected loss of propellant over a period of time, rather than the sealant becoming ineffective. Suppose the expiry date is from the manufacturing date of the car, rather than the first registration date.

Sounds right to me. I did wonder if the sealant became congealed as aside from when car is on the move, it just sits there, congealing. However, I have taken advice from Scott about the reminder of that great stuff called Slime. Just waiting for it to arrive, then some replacement therapy can occur. Result.

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Good old Amazon. The Slime was not supposed to arrive until next Thursday, but it was here today. I checked it to see if there was an expiry date, and there isn't. It does have a batch number and manufacture date. I tried to get onto their web site to find out more, but my poxy Internet connection is not working very well at the moment. I tried over and over to get this post loaded earlier today, had to wait until now for this.

The kit fits in the same place as the Mr. T gunk and compressor very well. I have included some pics. I won't go into the details about the kit, as you can see for yourself from the link from Scott.

First Pic is of it all laid out on the floor - Second Pic shows the details on the reverse of the packaging - Third Pic shows the kit in the bag - Fourth Pic shows the kit stuffed into the slot where the out of life Mr. T kit was - Fifth Pic is a close up of Four - Sixth Pic is of the useless Mr. T kit (Pics in order, assuming they come out this way when loaded).

Here's something odd though. If Mr. T regularly checks everything, then why has it taken this long to discover the Mr. T gunk expired in May 2013? Just a small point really.

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Thanks Bob!!!! Just great what you have done .... thanks ...

As I remember when I looked at this in my car ....

Didn't the expire note stick on the outside of the plastic bag all around all of it?

And not on the parts itself?

I think they just look at it ... at a "big" service ... and not at the "small" service one. Sorry do not know the names of this in English ...

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Thanks Bob!!!! Just great what you have done .... thanks ... As I remember when I looked at this in my car .... Didn't the expire note stick on the outside of the plastic bag all around all of it? And not on the parts itself?

I think they just look at it ... at a "big" service ... and not at the "small" service one. Sorry do not know the names of this in English ...

Hi Peter, The expiry date is only in that one spot, as in the picture (don't know if European mainland kits are different) and the kit has to be removed to see it, due to where it is placed. However, it would be a good idea for those who still have some Mr. T gunge in date to maybe make a note of it, and put it in a prominent position on the kit where they can just lift out the rear tray and check it easily. This would also make it easier for Mr. T's Minions (meant as an endearing word) to check the expiry date. Life should be easy, after all, this is the 21st Century, full of gadgets to make life easy, not more difficult.

The servicing is Minor (Small) and Major (Big) Service. Our iQ last had a 'big' service, and not cheap, but I feel better knowing that Mr. T has the opportunity to keep the car up to date with any fixes they don't tell us about.

I think the best thing about the Slime is that once used, you can purchase another bottle and the compressor is reusable, unlike Mr. T's combined gadget. I would definitely recommend this set up over the original kit.

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Thanks again Bob...
I think the Smart has that what you have pictured...
Our Smart even has a bigger problem...no slime..nor spare... nothing.. and no place for whatsoever..

I will edit this when I have pictures of the situation in my car... At this moment we are just finished with our Sunday Easter morning breakfast :-). Will dress up shortly... LOL... :-D

Here they are... the date sticker is on the liquid... thus inside the construction...

Here: DSC_1223_zps1f4ae7c9.jpg

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And I do think this is much easier... :-) Here: DSC_1219_zpsc9142f14.jpg

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Mine has an expiry date in 2013 and is going in for main service next week. It doesn't bother me because i would never have used it because my car has run flat tyres on it

David

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Mine has an expiry date in 2013 and is going in for main service next week. It doesn't bother me because i would never have used it because my car has run flat tyres on it

David

That is interesting David, as when I was after my winter tyres last year a few tyre places told me fitting run-flat tyres is not recommended on a car that wasn't designed to have them fitted by the manufacturer??

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Well thats difficult, because surely, Toyota would have opted for a comfortable ride, hence the wheels they chose. If what you are saying is true then they would be suggesting only using the original wheels and not upgrading to larger ones that would require 35 profiles supporting run flats. I have recently in the past had a slow front puncture which i let go flat to see the effect. I drove it at 50mph and it drove true as a a dye to the point that other than the extra bumping over sleepers and pot holes i could not tell i had a flat which is quite amazing as it was the front. Eventually after 2 weeks the tyre split about 10 inches round, so much so i was able to put my hand flat inside the tyre. Yet it sill drove ok. In fact i drove it to the tyre company 8miles away and had all 4 changed. So i am not sure why they made that statement, but in reality it was fine for me. Obviously i drove at max 30mph to the tyre place cautiously

David

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Mine has an expiry date in 2013 and is going in for main service next week. It doesn't bother me because i would never have used it because my car has run flat tyres on it

David

That is interesting David, as when I was after my winter tyres last year a few tyre places told me fitting run-flat tyres is not recommended on a car that wasn't designed to have them fitted by the manufacturer??

Ha ha ha ... yeah...that's what Toyota wants us to believe... not allowed? not built for it? It's only the price (that is higher) that counts... higher price.. = ... less sales....

And due to there statements that the car drives sooo economical / only with those %&$#@ tires that are under them, when you buy the car new ...

Slippery when dry AND when wet... @#$% tires.... noisy and uncomfortable as well

And they do not wear down... damn... cause I want better ones (but only if they are worn down)...

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These were independent tyre places that were telling me this, not Toyota. They could have easily told me they were ok to fit as the run-flats were the only winter tyre they they could get hold of in my size. So they knew they were doing themselves out of a sale. So I took it as honest advice.

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Fair enough mate. Just thought i would share my experience. With them

David

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It's not recommended to fit run flat tyres to a car that does not have a tyre pressure monitoring system and the iQ does not have one as standard. That is the only reason you shouldn't fit them.

Personally I hate the things, too stiff side walls resulting in a very harsh ride and no feel to them in corners but saying that, I do have a set of run flat winter tyres fitted to my standard iQ 16" rims. I could only get winter tyres in that size in runflat so had no choice and was warned at the tyre fitters that pressure monitors should be fitted so you can tell they are flat without having to check the pressures every time you drive the car.

In the end I fitted some of those valve caps with the green and red indicator built into them so I could see at a glance if they were below 30psi.

The iQ drives so much nicer on my 205/45 17 Toyo T1-R tyres though. :)

Craig.

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Yes i would say its a harsh drive. Mainly due. To terrible road surfaces and speed ramps etc. i have had the 18's on since the first day i bought the car and only had the luxury of the 15's when one of tbe wheels was re-furbished. Just me being vain really. I have TPMS on the wheels but generally walk round the car every day to check for digs and marks etc so look at the car a lot really.

David

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Not a long walk.... :-)

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" If what you are saying is true then they would be suggesting only using the original wheels and not upgrading to larger ones that would require 35 profiles supporting run flats."

Actually Toyota only recommend using the wheels that the car is homologated with - been through it all with them over winter tyres & wheels for my car (even though it is mechanically identical to other trim levels). :yucky:

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Original wheels have all to do with CO2 emission ... the car has been homologated with this... so the car can thus do so little CO2...

But...this year this has been set away in Holland ... We no longer have CO2 emissions reduction fee for this car... and pay normal taxes for the road... last year it was "zero" euro... and now it is about 50.something every 3 months...

So any tire that is street-legal will do ... Of course within the limits of the law considering thread / rubber-compound / profile / hight and width ... etc ...

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It's not recommended to fit run flat tyres to a car that does not have a tyre pressure monitoring system and the iQ does not have one as standard. That is the only reason you shouldn't fit them.

Craig.

That's it, I had forgot the reason. Well reminded Craig.

David you are in the clear now ;)

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Thanks Bob!!!! Just great what you have done .... thanks ... As I remember when I looked at this in my car .... Didn't the expire note stick on the outside of the plastic bag all around all of it? And not on the parts itself?

I think they just look at it ... at a "big" service ... and not at the "small" service one. Sorry do not know the names of this in English ...

Hi Peter, The expiry date is only in that one spot, as in the picture (don't know if European mainland kits are different) and the kit has to be removed to see it, due to where it is placed. However, it would be a good idea for those who still have some Mr. T gunge in date to maybe make a note of it, and put it in a prominent position on the kit where they can just lift out the rear tray and check it easily. This would also make it easier for Mr. T's Minions (meant as an endearing word) to check the expiry date. Life should be easy, after all, this is the 21st Century, full of gadgets to make life easy, not more difficult.

The servicing is Minor (Small) and Major (Big) Service. Our iQ last had a 'big' service, and not cheap, but I feel better knowing that Mr. T has the opportunity to keep the car up to date with any fixes they don't tell us about.

I think the best thing about the Slime is that once used, you can purchase another bottle and the compressor is reusable, unlike Mr. T's combined gadget. I would definitely recommend this set up over the original kit.

I have gone down the "Puncture Safe" route, rather than the standard Toyota seal kit see - http://www.puncturesafe.com

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