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Konrad C

Clutch replacement planned Avensis Mk3 T27 1.8 valvematic

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I detected slight clutch slip when accelerating in 2nd gear above 3000 rpm. The pedal is biting point is high but in normal use the pedal and clutch is okay. I spoke to my mechanic who say i have plenty of time. I will have the clutch replaced sooner than later.

I will be getting the 3 piece kit (LuK), so not skimping on the concentric slave cylinder.

The only issue is to check the clutch places cost before committing, or let my mechanic who has work on my older car do the work? How much has others been charged?

He has done a clutch on a similar model plus may allow me to help/take photos. I look forward to this in a way, because then I know the clutch will never need changing again under my ownership, and I get to see the inner workings and how the car is put together. Plus I can remember and make sure every part is put back.

The problem with being a of secondhand car is you never know how the previous owner(s) drove it - hold the car on incline using biting point instead of parking brake, ride the clutch pedal, using lots revs whilst getting biting point (this engine stalls easily if not enough revs).

Hopefully the car will be better to drive once the clutch has been replaced. 

 

   

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Hi Konrad look forward to your photos .

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I too would be interested. Are the clutches week on these

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4 hours ago, JoeP said:

I too would be interested. Are the clutches week on these

That is a good question. There are a few of factors that can cause accelerated clutch wear. The most common is riding the clutch, heavy use of the clutch due to the lack of low down torque. High revs to keep the engine from stalling. Lack of feeling and/or vibration (compared to my previous Avensis), made stalling easy at first.

I had no issues with my old leanburn, as the 7A-FE has plenty of low down torque, under 1500 rpm compared to the MK3 2ZR engine. Once moving the Mk3 is fine and I can drive along at around 1500 rpm or lower. The engine has a stronger pull at around 2500 rpm. The clutch slips near 3000 rpm. Also the later car (estate) is heavier than the older hatchback).

My car has done 65288 miles. So it is luck of the draw. If I owned the car from new, the clutch had been recently installed or the driver was clutch friendly, I am sure the car would not be needing a replacement clutch under my ownership!    

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I've had two cars that needed clutch replacements. A Peugeot 107 and a Peugeot 3008. 

The 107 - which is the same as the Aygo - used the thicker Yaris clutch. I took it to a back street garage near me to get it sorted out and it cost me £200. I've no idea what clutch they used, but I know it's done 8,000 miles since over 2 years and it's been fine. However I fully expect it to last until 20,000 miles before replacement. I'll be doing the lottery if it lasts 60,000 like the old one did - thats how confident I am about the type of clutch I have and the place that fitted it.

The 3008 was a different matter. It was a diesel, so used a dual mass flywheel. I asked Peugeot for a quote, and they told me £1,200 to sort it. I was recommended a place near my work at the time, they did it for £600. They used a LUK clutch kit for it, and I think they lost money on working on the car as the DMF needed replacing as well. The guy didn't know how I was driving it, it was that bad.

So, in my opinion, the replacement for a clutch should cost between £200 and £600 (flywheel dependent). The two cars are chalk and cheese, one's a tiny 1.0 petrol go kart while the other was a lumbering bag of spanners with a 1.6 diesel engine. I'd imagine if yours is petrol then it would cost something in the middle of what I've experienced. I will also say though that you are in London and you pay London prices, so maybe even expect to pay a little more.

But if your mechanic comes back and says it's £200 for labour, I wouldn't say that's a bad deal at all if you're supplying the clutch yourself.

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My last t25 2.2d never needed a new clutch and it had done 140,000 when I sold it. This one however has done less than 40k. Maybe its just had luck. I suspect from Toyota they are around £1k to replace. Mr clutch is about £700. There is probably little chance of the warranty covering it

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Clutches and brake pads used to contain asbestos, and this was banned in 1999 (or 2004 if the car was built before 1973 - i think). So the material we have now in clutches doesn't resist wear as much as it did then. So it's quite common now for cars to need a new clutch after 50/60,000 miles.

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My car is going to be done by the guy who did the transmission on my old Mk1 a few years ago. I wanted to be there, but I will see. The complete clutch kit is on order. I asked to have the old clutch unit back so I can see the condition. It will be done next week. 

The good thing is that the car does not have a DMF, being a low torque petrol car. Going back to when clutch man did the transmission, the car drove nicely, with the clutch feeling light and gear changes nice and positive. My current car's clutch is light, but the pedal is high. I don't have any problems with gear changes. My mechanic contact says that the clutch man hates Mercedes B Class and had a bit of hassle with a Rav4 he did a couple of days ago. My car should be no problem. 

When the car comes back I will give feedback.  

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