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#1 kalaichezhian

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Posted 09 December 2003 - 11:53 PM

My 1998 Camry V6(Japan make) has 70,000 miles. This morning I noticed the check engine light was on. The mechanic in Tire Plus checked using obd2 code reader. The disgonistic code was P0135 Heated Oxygen Sensor 2. Only one sensor is bad but he advised me to change all the THREE OXYGEN sensors and given me a quote for about $400. That include original parts from Toyota and the labor cost. Can someone help me with the following question................
(a) Does my camry really has three sensors?
(B) Is it necessary to replace all the three sensor when only one of them is bad
© Where can I shop around for a cheaper price.

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#2 MyV6Flys

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:31 AM

I just bought a 97 V6 Camry, so I bought a book also. It says
Two oxygen sensors are used. The Primary sensor is in the exhaust manifold (upstream) and the second oxygen sensor is after the cat converter (down stream)

by sampling the exhaust before and after the converter, the PCM can determine the needed mixture.

So no, you only have 2. The one in the manifold would take 5 minutes for a shop to change, the other is in the exhaust pipe, so they have jack up the car, get under it. Once in place 3 minutes to change the sensor.

O2 sensors sell for 30 to 70+ dollars depending where you buy it at. I think I read a post on the where someone found them for like 25 bucks.

So now you have 50 to 100 bucks in parts, At Most 1 hour labor.

Yea, 400 sound too much to me. For 20 bucks you can buy the book I have that will tell you how to do it. Then a couple sensors, Umm...beside.... he was wrong.

#3 celica kid

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:42 PM

as far as i know there is 3 sensors 1 main and a sub oxygen sensor and the other is an exhaust gas heat sensor the sensors are a service item you will get up 50- 60k out of them before they fail. they are used to mix the correct air fuel ratio so you get the correct miles per gallon and also help to keep emissions at the right levels by getting a proper fuel burn

#4 kalaichezhian

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 10:22 PM

Thank you both for your response. I have been surfing around to find how many sensors the Camry has. The Toyota parts center list only two of them, in stream and out stream only, so as many of the online store. The few of the auto store I inquired never heard of the third sensor. Does the third one, main oxygen sensor, as Celica Kid explained is same as intake or outtake?

I don't know how to explain, CHECK ENGINE light problem seems to be resolved (!!!) mysteriously . This morning when I turn the engine the light came ON but it went OFF when the engine was running. I have tried around 10 times and couldn't duplicate the problem. The only thing I did was to open the hood and close.

I have to have a close watch for the problem to reappear again. In the meantime I have postponed the idea to replace the sensors and save the bucks for holidays.

Thank you my friends (MyV6Flys & Celica Kid) for your great help. Kalai.

#5 Joe W

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 12:51 AM

The code is still in the computer and the light will come back on eventually when it detects the problem.You will notice less power and fuel economy as it worsens, but you should have time to call around for a reasonable price.

#6 kalaichezhian

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 06:06 PM

You are right Joe. I did notice the light did came back and stays on. I have finally decided to replace my oxigen sensors. What I am more confused about is the number of sensors that I have to replace. Every time I inquire I get different kind of answers. Some mechanic says it is only two. Some swear it is three. Some says Califorina state requires THREE and others only TWO. I live in Florida. Can someone tell me how many of them I really need to replace to have my problem fixed.

Thanks, Kalai.

#7 Joe W

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 03:24 AM

There are 3 oxygen sensors on the V-6.There are two upstream,one on each exh. manifold,and one downstream.The code your car displays is for a heated o2 sensor heater circuit malfunction(bank 1,sensor 1) which I believe is the one at the rear of the engine-upstream.(imagine that!).

#8 MyV6Flys

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 08:25 AM

Ok, while what Joe says makes since. My Camry book for 1997 - 1999 4 cylinder and V6 says there is two.

It show the first one in the exhaust manifold. Same place Both 4 and 6 bangers. The book also talks about 1 after the cat in the exhaust pipe.

The one I think is setting the error is close and eays to get to. You will need to buy a special socket to do it. There cheaper than takes it to a garage.

Open the hood, looking down close to you, you see the exhaust manifold, there is a thing sticking out of it with a black wire like looking thing screwed into it. Look between the motor mount and the shock mount. Now looking between those two look up at the exhaust manifold. You should plainly see the O2 sensor.

Change it first then wait to see if the light comes back on.


My book may be wrong, it would not be the first car book to be wrong.

#9 V6Camry

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Posted 29 December 2003 - 06:57 AM

There are 3 oxygen sensors on the V-6.There are two upstream,one on each exh. manifold,and one downstream.The code your car displays is for a heated o2 sensor heater circuit malfunction(bank 1,sensor 1) which I believe is the one at the rear of the engine-upstream.(imagine that!).

We replaced 2 oxygen sensors last week on our '98 V6, 3L Camry. The mechanic said there were 3 sensors, 2 before the catalytic converter and 1 after.

The OBDII Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) was P0135, Bank 1 Sensor 1 (B1S1). The mechanic replaced the oxygen sensor located in the exhaust manifold in the engine compartment near the battery - ie. he only had to pop open the bonnet (hood) and spend half an hour replacing it. Unfortunately this didn't solve the problem and the check engine light reappeared for a week - I returned the vehicle 4 times for the mechanic to fix, he wasn't able to.

He finally replaced the oxygen sensor beneath the vehicle and upstream of the catalyst - Bank 2 Sensor 1 (B2S1) and the check engine light has not reappeared.

My question is: Where are the Heated Oxygen Sensors - B1S1 and B2S1 located? I discovered some information on the net that indicates B1S1 is located beneath the vehicle upstream of the catalyst not in the exhaust manifold in the engine compartment near the battery - the latter of which the mechanic claimed. I am assuming that the location of oxygen sensors are pretty standard for all models and years for Camry.

I would appreciate any information/help as I hate being taken for a ride!

#10 Joe W

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Posted 30 December 2003 - 03:05 AM

The heated O2 sensors are in the exhaust stream upstream of the cat.The code referred to the one in the rear of the engine accessable from under the car.Ibelieve the worst that happened was the wrong one was replaced first,but it was probably due anyway.

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