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Fitness Instructor, here, was involved in an accident in which he ran into the back of another car. No one was killed or hurt too seriously, & he claimed it happened due to his high protein diet, in his court defence. He said he had no memory of hitting the car.

When brought to the Garda barracks after the event, his blood sugar was found to be "ridiculously low". He obviously had a short diabetic black out.

Nevertheless, he was fined Euro1200 with Euro100 witness's expenses & convicted of dangerous driving. In my opinion, this was unfair. Nowhere was it stated that he knew that he was diabetic.

What do YOU think?

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Don't know much about diabetes, so apologies if my thoughts are incorrect but would he not have felt unwell behind the wheel before it happened.... I mean are you just healthy and then black-out?

If he was feeling unwell he shouldn't have been driving really... but like I say, I don't know how diabetes affects people.

I know through personal experience with other ailments that I've had a tendency to feel unwell before feeling faint, usually dizziness, nausea etc. I'd not drive if I felt like that...

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Fitness Instructor, here, was involved in an accident in which he ran into the back of another car. No one was killed or hurt too seriously, & he claimed it happened due to his high protein diet, in his court defence. He said he had no memory of hitting the car.

When brought to the Garda barracks after the event, his blood sugar was found to be "ridiculously low". He obviously had a short diabetic black out.

Nevertheless, he was fined Euro1200 with Euro100 witness's expenses & convicted of dangerous driving. In my opinion, this was unfair. Nowhere was it stated that he knew that he was diabetic.

What do YOU think?

Surely as a Fitness Instructor he would understand the importance of a balanced diet.

Blaming his diet, for the line of work he is in, was probably the weakest arguement he could've submitted.

If his diet is to blame for the blackout then he should've known the risks associated with what his diet consisted of.

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Attempted planned suicide is a serious matter - and to try whilst endangering others........

It gives a strong argument for enforced euthanasia in cases such as this. And the persons not fit to instruct anyone so should be incarcerated rather than fined.

Was the person Irish by any chance? :P

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.... Nowhere was it stated that he knew that he was diabetic.

What do YOU think?

Ignorance is not a defence in law :huh:

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Fitness Instructor, here, was involved in an accident in which he ran into the back of another car. No one was killed or hurt too seriously, & he claimed it happened due to his high protein diet, in his court defence. He said he had no memory of hitting the car.

When brought to the Garda barracks after the event, his blood sugar was found to be "ridiculously low". He obviously had a short diabetic black out.

Nevertheless, he was fined Euro1200 with Euro100 witness's expenses & convicted of dangerous driving. In my opinion, this was unfair. Nowhere was it stated that he knew that he was diabetic.

What do YOU think?

Surely as a Fitness Instructor he would understand the importance of a balanced diet.

Blaming his diet, for the line of work he is in, was probably the weakest arguement he could've submitted.

If his diet is to blame for the blackout then he should've known the risks associated with what his diet consisted of.

I dont think he was aware he was diabetic.

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Attempted planned suicide is a serious matter - and to try whilst endangering others........

It gives a strong argument for enforced euthanasia in cases such as this. And the persons not fit to instruct anyone so should be incarcerated rather than fined.

Was the person Irish by any chance? :P

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Don't know much about diabetes, so apologies if my thoughts are incorrect but would he not have felt unwell behind the wheel before it happened.... I mean are you just healthy and then black-out?

If he was feeling unwell he shouldn't have been driving really... but like I say, I don't know how diabetes affects people.

I know through personal experience with other ailments that I've had a tendency to feel unwell before feeling faint, usually dizziness, nausea etc. I'd not drive if I felt like that...

I am diabetic, & didn't know anything was wrong until a blood test showed an inability to get rid of the excess sugar in my system. Felt fit as a fiddle :D

Now & again my morning & evening my self administered tests show my level to be too low & a warning comes up on the test monitor. Still wouldn't feel anything was wrong :(

You hear & read about people collapsing in the street from low sugar levels, & I don't think they have any warning. Bad cases should carry a piece of chocolate for emergencies.

I had to go to the Hospital yesterday for a CT scan - fasting. I had to swear , hand on heart :lol: that I would go to the Canteen for a feed, before setting off.

Yes, I do feel that he should appeal :thumbsup: There are thousands walking about , diabetic & don't know it. It is reaching epidemic proportions in the developed world.

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he claimed it happened due to his high protein diet, in his court defence.

Shows he had capacity and was aware of the situation prior to the incident.

I dont think he was aware he was diabetic.

He’s not. If he was diabetic (and not aware of it) his blood sugars would be elevated, not low.

He ran into the back of another car, guilty

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he claimed it happened due to his high protein diet, in his court defence.

Shows he had capacity and was aware of the situation prior to the incident.

I dont think he was aware he was diabetic.

He’s not. If he was diabetic (and not aware of it) his blood sugars would be elevated, not low.

He ran into the back of another car, guilty

must agree

It doesn't take a fitness instructor to know that a high protein diet means carbohydrates intake (ie sugar) is low!! If I was the owner of the car in front, I'd also sue for impersonation if the guy is calling themself a fitness instructor.

And I do know a little about diabetes; and low blood sugar consequences.

Person should also have driving licence removed until a medicAL TEST PROVES FITNESS TO DRIVE..... I mean - theres loads of folk who suffer from epilepsy yet stopped from driving even tho their medication keeps their condition under control

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Fitness Instructor, here, was involved in an accident in which he ran into the back of another car. No one was killed or hurt too seriously, & he claimed it happened due to his high protein diet, in his court defence. He said he had no memory of hitting the car.

When brought to the Garda barracks after the event, his blood sugar was found to be "ridiculously low". He obviously had a short diabetic black out. Nevertheless, he was fined Euro1200 with Euro100 witness's expenses & convicted of dangerous driving. In my opinion, this was unfair. Nowhere was it stated that he knew that he was diabetic.

What do YOU think?

Surely as a Fitness Instructor he would understand the importance of a balanced diet.

Blaming his diet, for the line of work he is in, was probably the weakest arguement he could've submitted.

If his diet is to blame for the blackout then he should've known the risks associated with what his diet consisted of.

I dont think he was aware he was diabetic.

In Bizarra's post it doesn't say that he is a diabetic...

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Hypoglycemia When Driving

Hypoglycemia is particularly dangerous if it happens to someone who is driving. People with hypoglycemia may have trouble concentrating or seeing clearly behind the wheel and may not be able to react quickly to road hazards or to the actions of other drivers. To prevent problems, people at risk for hypoglycemia should check their blood glucose level before driving. During longer trips, they should check their blood glucose level frequently and eat snacks as needed to keep the level at 70 mg/dL or above. If necessary, they should stop for treatment and then make sure their blood glucose level is 70 mg/dL or above before starting to drive again.

Hypoglycemia Unawareness

Some people with diabetes do not have early warning signs of low blood glucose, a condition called hypoglycemia unawareness. This condition occurs most often in people with type 1 diabetes, but it can also occur in people with type 2 diabetes. People with hypoglycemia unawareness may need to check their blood glucose level more often so they know when hypoglycemia is about to occur. They also may need a change in their medications, meal plan, or physical activity routine.

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But he hasn’t got diabetes!!!

You can have a low blood sugar and still function normally; a diabetic on the other hand with a low blood sugar, will become very unwell very quickly and will die!

As he hasn’t got diabetes, he was fined €1200 plus €100 and convicted of dangerous driving! He was trying to weasel out of it by playing the ‘Hypo’ card... Yeah! Good case nicely presented now pay up!

Case closed :thumbsup:

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'T V O R' date='Feb 12 2009, 09:12 PM' post='852806']

But he hasn’t got diabetes!!!

You can have a low blood sugar and still function normally; a diabetic on the other hand with a low blood sugar, will become very unwell very quickly and will die!

As he hasn’t got diabetes, he was fined €1200 plus €100 and convicted of dangerous driving! He was trying to weasel out of it by playing the ‘Hypo’ card... Yeah! Good case nicely presented now pay up!

Case not closed :thumbsup: In my post I stated that nowhere did he say that he was diabetic. The Guards report said that his blood sugar level was "ridiculously Low" he may have been diabetic, without knowing it. He was not a drunk driver, nor was he on drugs. he may (note MAY) have done his day's work & driven without eating, hence the low sugar level. I think that the fine was excessive & that the case, properly presented , should have included a report from his Doctor or a Specialist :yes:

See Hypoglycemia Unawareness in my previous post

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Duhhhhhh

is this not the same basic argument as blind diesel car drivers?????

And I'm not arguing that they are/may be diabetic.......

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'T V O R' date='Feb 12 2009, 09:12 PM' post='852806']

But he hasn’t got diabetes!!!

You can have a low blood sugar and still function normally; a diabetic on the other hand with a low blood sugar, will become very unwell very quickly and will die!

As he hasn’t got diabetes, he was fined €1200 plus €100 and convicted of dangerous driving! He was trying to weasel out of it by playing the ‘Hypo’ card... Yeah! Good case nicely presented now pay up!

Case not closed :thumbsup: In my post I stated that nowhere did he say that he was diabetic. The Guards report said that his blood sugar level was "ridiculously Low" he may have been diabetic, without knowing it. He was not a drunk driver, nor was he on drugs. he may (note MAY) have done his day's work & driven without eating, hence the low sugar level. I think that the fine was excessive & that the case, properly presented , should have included a report from his Doctor or a Specialist :yes:

See Hypoglycemia Unawareness in my previous post

It's on a par with drinking on a Friday night and being caught over the limit on Saturday.

He is a Fitness Instructor, he would know the effects of his diet.

Just the same as we all know if you go out boozing you will still be over the limit the following day.

Ignorance is not a defence.

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A fine and a conviction tells me the case is closed. He was pulling a fast one with the ‘High protein diet’ trick! It didn’t work so he should take it on the chin and put it down to experience.

... and have one of these before he drives in the future...

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A fine and a conviction tells me the case is closed. He was pulling a fast one with the ‘High protein diet’ trick! It didn’t work so he should take it on the chin and put it down to experience.

... and have one of these before he drives in the future...

marsbarMS1205_468x272.jpg

But not while he's driving of course - you can get done for that too ! :wacko:

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Bizzara: nor was he on drugs.

How do you know?............He is a fitness instructor, How about Anabolic Steroids?

Side Effects: (Amongst many others)The levels of sugar in your blood may change temporarily. This may happen if you have high-dose or long-term treatment. While you are having your steroid therapy your blood sugar levels will be checked regularly by blood tests. You may be asked to test your urine for sugar. You will be shown how to do this. Tell your doctor if you get very thirsty or if you are passing more urine than usual.

Of course the above is for when you are on prescribed steroids, body builders take any old rubbish they can get their hands on, usually from the internet where there is no quality control and you could be popping any old sh*te :eek:

Case closed........no appeal....... :gun_bandana:

Kingo :thumbsup:

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Verdict of the Jury seems to be (is) that the Judge was right

I still disagree.

Culprit probably never considered the possibility of very low blood sugar problems until he got the medical report from the Guards (It can't happen to me )

How many people are driving with dicky hearts & you read in the accident report that he/she may have had a heart attack @ the wheel ?

How many are driving with arterial blockages & High blood Pressure (The silent killer ) & could have a stroke @ the wheel?

I had a very minor stroke & knew nothing about it until someone said my mouth was not right , Physically ( not potty mouth :lol2: ). I know, looking back now, when it happened. I was doing some normal Sunday jobs in work & when I'd finished it was much later than I thought & than it should have been. Thank God I wasn't driving.

There are other instances of illnesses which can strike out of the blue & the person has no idea.

Regular checkups are an answer, but how many boast that they haven't been to a Doctor for 20/30 years ?

You get your car checked/ serviced regularly. Why not your body,which is the computer which controls it in the long run?

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Verdict of the Jury seems to be (is) that the Judge was right

I still disagree.

Culprit probably never considered the possibility of very low blood sugar problems until he got the medical report from the Guards (It can't happen to me )

How many people are driving with dicky hearts & you read in the accident report that he/she may have had a heart attack @ the wheel ?

How many are driving with arterial blockages & High blood Pressure (The silent killer ) & could have a stroke @ the wheel?

I had a very minor stroke & knew nothing about it until someone said my mouth was not right , Physically ( not potty mouth :lol2: ). I know, looking back now, when it happened. I was doing some normal Sunday jobs in work & when I'd finished it was much later than I thought & than it should have been. Thank God I wasn't driving.

There are other instances of illnesses which can strike out of the blue & the person has no idea.

Regular checkups are an answer, but how many boast that they haven't been to a Doctor for 20/30 years ?

You get your car checked/ serviced regularly. Why not your body,which is the computer which controls it in the long run?

Yep - I go to see my GP every week whether I need to or not!

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Verdict of the Jury seems to be (is) that the Judge was right

I still disagree.

Culprit probably never considered the possibility of very low blood sugar problems until he got the medical report from the Guards (It can't happen to me )

How many people are driving with dicky hearts & you read in the accident report that he/she may have had a heart attack @ the wheel ?

How many are driving with arterial blockages & High blood Pressure (The silent killer ) & could have a stroke @ the wheel?

I had a very minor stroke & knew nothing about it until someone said my mouth was not right , Physically ( not potty mouth :lol2: ). I know, looking back now, when it happened. I was doing some normal Sunday jobs in work & when I'd finished it was much later than I thought & than it should have been. Thank God I wasn't driving.

There are other instances of illnesses which can strike out of the blue & the person has no idea.

Regular checkups are an answer, but how many boast that they haven't been to a Doctor for 20/30 years ?

You get your car checked/ serviced regularly. Why not your body,which is the computer which controls it in the long run?

Yep - I go to see my GP every week whether I need to or not!

That is what I am ranting about :rolleyes: & I bet your GP is a very happy person, too :lol:

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