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Greetings all

I'm the happy owner of a 1997 Avensis 2.0D which I purchased at 120K miles.. I'm new to Toyotas and I'd appreciate some help and advice on a couple of issues with the car. First, at idle (around 750 to 800 rpm) the car suffers from a severe, low amplitude engine vibration. If you feather the throttle and raise the revs to about 950, the vibration disappears immediately only to return when the revs fall again to idle speed. Any ideas what the reason for this is and how to cure it before my eyes bounce out of their sockets or my fillings fall out :unsure: !

When I bought the car 2K miles ago, the price reflected the need for a clutch change 'soon'. The clutch isn't slipping but you have to depress it completely to the floor to disengage and the take-up is within the first third gf the pedal travel. My question is, is it OK to let an independent or a clutch specialist do the clutch change and how much should it cost?

Finally, I've recently had the car comprehensively serviced by a independent Toyota specialist garage, who noted this car has a checkered service record with significant gaps. The main worry is that there is no evidence of a cambelt change at the requisite mileages. Again, can anyone tell me whether I can entrust this operation to a cambelt specialist or independent garage rather than a Toyota main dealer, and how much should it cost? Meanwhile I'll be praying that my pistons don't headbutt my valves on the M11...

Cheers

BBK

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Greetings all

I'm the happy owner of a 1997 Avensis 2.0D which I purchased at 120K miles.. I'm new to Toyotas and I'd appreciate some help and advice on a couple of issues with the car. First, at idle (around 750 to 800 rpm) the car suffers from a severe, low amplitude engine vibration. If you feather the throttle and raise the revs to about 950, the vibration disappears immediately only to return when the revs fall again to idle speed. Any ideas what the reason for this is and how to cure it before my eyes bounce out of their sockets or my fillings fall out :unsure: !

When I bought the car 2K miles ago, the price reflected the need for a clutch change 'soon'. The clutch isn't slipping but you have to depress it completely to the floor to disengage and the take-up is within the first third gf the pedal travel. My question is, is it OK to let an independent or a clutch specialist do the clutch change and how much should it cost?

Finally, I've recently had the car comprehensively serviced by a independent Toyota specialist garage, who noted this car has a checkered service record with significant gaps. The main worry is that there is no evidence of a cambelt change at the requisite mileages. Again, can anyone tell me whether I can entrust this operation to a cambelt specialist or independent garage rather than a Toyota main dealer, and how much should it cost? Meanwhile I'll be praying that my pistons don't headbutt my valves on the M11...

Cheers

BBK

What did Toyota make of the clutch? Sounds more like a fault in the hydraulics rather than the clutch itself, hard to say without actually being 'hands on'. Clearance is near floor, bite is near floor sounds like weak hydraulics whereas generally speaking, near worn out clutch ..... clears easily and bite is near top of pedal travel.

There are exceptions when the clutch itself gets heavy and stiff to operate causing the hydraulics to struggle.

Does it have a DMF in this model (Dual Mass Flywheel)? If so, clutch problem and vibration could all be tied together.

I am sure some of the other forum users will know if this is the case.

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The first thing you should do is get your cambelt changed because you dont want to end up looking for a new engine!

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Greetings all

I'm the happy owner of a 1997 Avensis 2.0D which I purchased at 120K miles.. I'm new to Toyotas and I'd appreciate some help and advice on a couple of issues with the car. First, at idle (around 750 to 800 rpm) the car suffers from a severe, low amplitude engine vibration. If you feather the throttle and raise the revs to about 950, the vibration disappears immediately only to return when the revs fall again to idle speed. Any ideas what the reason for this is and how to cure it before my eyes bounce out of their sockets or my fillings fall out :unsure: !

When I bought the car 2K miles ago, the price reflected the need for a clutch change 'soon'. The clutch isn't slipping but you have to depress it completely to the floor to disengage and the take-up is within the first third gf the pedal travel. My question is, is it OK to let an independent or a clutch specialist do the clutch change and how much should it cost?

Finally, I've recently had the car comprehensively serviced by a independent Toyota specialist garage, who noted this car has a checkered service record with significant gaps. The main worry is that there is no evidence of a cambelt change at the requisite mileages. Again, can anyone tell me whether I can entrust this operation to a cambelt specialist or independent garage rather than a Toyota main dealer, and how much should it cost? Meanwhile I'll be praying that my pistons don't headbutt my valves on the M11...

Cheers

BBK

What did Toyota make of the clutch? Sounds more like a fault in the hydraulics rather than the clutch itself, hard to say without actually being 'hands on'. Clearance is near floor, bite is near floor sounds like weak hydraulics whereas generally speaking, near worn out clutch ..... clears easily and bite is near top of pedal travel.

There are exceptions when the clutch itself gets heavy and stiff to operate causing the hydraulics to struggle.

Does it have a DMF in this model (Dual Mass Flywheel)? If so, clutch problem and vibration could all be tied together.

I am sure some of the other forum users will know if this is the case.

Thanks QS. What you said sounds logical now that I come to think about it! It's just been a long time since I've had a car with clutch problems. This particular car has a towbar fitted and it could well be that towing heavy loads may have caused some serious clutch abuse. The clutch doesn't slip but often judders on engagement and won't fully disengage unless I depress the pedal into the carpet. I'll certainly check to see whether this model has a dual mass flywheel as the vibration on idle is evident whether or not the clutch is engaged. It would be great to get both problems sorted at once.

If any one else has additional thoughts I'd be grateful to hear them.

Cheers :D

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The first thing you should do is get your cambelt changed because you dont want to end up looking for a new engine!

Amen to that Aamir :yes:

I guess it's better to be safe than sorry and end up with a lunched engine!

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Greetings all

I'm the happy owner of a 1997 Avensis 2.0D which I purchased at 120K miles.. I'm new to Toyotas and I'd appreciate some help and advice on a couple of issues with the car. First, at idle (around 750 to 800 rpm) the car suffers from a severe, low amplitude engine vibration. If you feather the throttle and raise the revs to about 950, the vibration disappears immediately only to return when the revs fall again to idle speed. Any ideas what the reason for this is and how to cure it before my eyes bounce out of their sockets or my fillings fall out :unsure: !

When I bought the car 2K miles ago, the price reflected the need for a clutch change 'soon'. The clutch isn't slipping but you have to depress it completely to the floor to disengage and the take-up is within the first third gf the pedal travel. My question is, is it OK to let an independent or a clutch specialist do the clutch change and how much should it cost?

Finally, I've recently had the car comprehensively serviced by a independent Toyota specialist garage, who noted this car has a checkered service record with significant gaps. The main worry is that there is no evidence of a cambelt change at the requisite mileages. Again, can anyone tell me whether I can entrust this operation to a cambelt specialist or independent garage rather than a Toyota main dealer, and how much should it cost? Meanwhile I'll be praying that my pistons don't headbutt my valves on the M11...

Cheers

BBK

hello BBK

I deem the problem with injectors beacuse vibration disapears at rev up.

have injectors tested first - -it is easy not to dismantle main gear unit from the engine.

CHeers/Igor

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Greetings all

I'm the happy owner of a 1997 Avensis 2.0D which I purchased at 120K miles.. I'm new to Toyotas and I'd appreciate some help and advice on a couple of issues with the car. First, at idle (around 750 to 800 rpm) the car suffers from a severe, low amplitude engine vibration. If you feather the throttle and raise the revs to about 950, the vibration disappears immediately only to return when the revs fall again to idle speed. Any ideas what the reason for this is and how to cure it before my eyes bounce out of their sockets or my fillings fall out :unsure: !

When I bought the car 2K miles ago, the price reflected the need for a clutch change 'soon'. The clutch isn't slipping but you have to depress it completely to the floor to disengage and the take-up is within the first third gf the pedal travel. My question is, is it OK to let an independent or a clutch specialist do the clutch change and how much should it cost?

Finally, I've recently had the car comprehensively serviced by a independent Toyota specialist garage, who noted this car has a checkered service record with significant gaps. The main worry is that there is no evidence of a cambelt change at the requisite mileages. Again, can anyone tell me whether I can entrust this operation to a cambelt specialist or independent garage rather than a Toyota main dealer, and how much should it cost? Meanwhile I'll be praying that my pistons don't headbutt my valves on the M11...

Cheers

BBK

hello BBK

I deem the problem with injectors beacuse vibration disapears at rev up.

have injectors tested first - -it is easy not to dismantle main gear unit from the engine.

CHeers/Igor

Greetings Igor

Many thanks for your input - I'll get my garage to test the injectors first as you suggest. This vibration is driving me nuts!

Cheers, BBK

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may just be the idle speed needs picking up a little. ill have a look , im sure there is a way of adjusting the base idle speed.

as for timing belt a local garage should be able to do it its pretty simple

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may just be the idle speed needs picking up a little. ill have a look , im sure there is a way of adjusting the base idle speed.

as for timing belt a local garage should be able to do it its pretty simple

Thanks for this Dawsey. I've not got a clue about how to adjust the base idle speed but if I could increase it to about 900 rpm the vibration would no longer be a problem.

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Greetings all

I'm the happy owner of a 1997 Avensis 2.0D which I purchased at 120K miles.. I'm new to Toyotas and I'd appreciate some help and advice on a couple of issues with the car. First, at idle (around 750 to 800 rpm) the car suffers from a severe, low amplitude engine vibration. If you feather the throttle and raise the revs to about 950, the vibration disappears immediately only to return when the revs fall again to idle speed. Any ideas what the reason for this is and how to cure it before my eyes bounce out of their sockets or my fillings fall out :unsure: !

When I bought the car 2K miles ago, the price reflected the need for a clutch change 'soon'. The clutch isn't slipping but you have to depress it completely to the floor to disengage and the take-up is within the first third gf the pedal travel. My question is, is it OK to let an independent or a clutch specialist do the clutch change and how much should it cost?

Finally, I've recently had the car comprehensively serviced by a independent Toyota specialist garage, who noted this car has a checkered service record with significant gaps. The main worry is that there is no evidence of a cambelt change at the requisite mileages. Again, can anyone tell me whether I can entrust this operation to a cambelt specialist or independent garage rather than a Toyota main dealer, and how much should it cost? Meanwhile I'll be praying that my pistons don't headbutt my valves on the M11...

Cheers

BBK

hello BBK

I deem the problem with injectors beacuse vibration disapears at rev up.

have injectors tested first - -it is easy not to dismantle main gear unit from the engine.

CHeers/Igor

Greetings Igor

Many thanks for your input - I'll get my garage to test the injectors first as you suggest. This vibration is driving me nuts!

Cheers, BBK

Hello

Any up-dates?

Cheers

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To BBK,

Bit late on this one, problems may have already been sorted. Your max idle without A/C is 825 rpm & with A/C should be 850 rpm. As suggested in previous posting, raise your idle speed a small amount to cure vibrations. You have a lever on top of pump connected to cable, you can rev engine from engine bay by moving lever. Lever sits against lock stop screw, by turning screw towards lever idle will raise. I would have the car straight into your independent garage & have belt changed straight away. I would not think to hard about this one, as you will have a whole lot more to think about if your engine goes bang.

Regards, Beagh.

PS: Have you checked all your g/box & engine mountings for damage or wear.

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