Could Someone Do Me A Massive Favour Please

[KPARRIS-JONES]

Gearbox bearings!

No it won't be the bearings..... I have tried and tested this, and it is a faint sound which is NOT constant as the gears spin.

I have been around a few cars that have slightly prominent transmission noise in exactly the same way, and each of them had perfectly functioning transmission.

[Bong Water]

When you say its no constant as the gears spin you mean because it goes away when you put your foot down instead of the noise getting louder?

This Corolla makes a similar noise I think, its hard to tell but its kind of similar

[KPARRIS-JONES]

Yeh. It goes when you dip the clutch and it is only there during certain RPM's of that gear so it's fine. If it was bearings, it would get louder as revs climb and it doesn't do that so you will be fine.

[eddieinvader]

Have tried this again and all I get is the transmission noise which is very faint in the background, I don't even notice this usually when driving the car thats why I said originally there was nothing there, had to listen hard for it, don't worry about it probably all it is the same as mine, you will get used to it and not even think about it.

Just drive the car and have fun.

[Bong Water]

Ok thanks everyone, i'm just going to leave it now i'm sick of thinking about it, everyone keeps saying its faint but I can hear it quite clearly but i'm listening for it too. I'm picking my mate up later so i'll get him to listen and he'll tell me straight if i'm a nutball

[Mr_T_Sport]

It could be a loose manifold bracket! I had a very similar noise that was faint but you knew it was there. I could only hear it in 1st 2Nd and 3rd gear 3rd gear being the worst.I was positive it was a transmission problem as the noise disappeared when i pressed the clutch! I took it to the garage i bought it off and there mechanic was also convinced it was a transmission problem. I got the car back the next day and was told it was a loose manifold bracket. That's 18 months ago now and have had no noises since. Just been out for a listen and i couldn't notice anything. I honestly think that it could be that as it sounds very similar

[Bong Water]

It could be a loose manifold bracket! I had a very similar noise that was faint but you knew it was there. I could only hear it in 1st 2Nd and 3rd gear 3rd gear being the worst.I was positive it was a transmission problem as the noise disappeared when i pressed the clutch! I took it to the garage i bought it off and there mechanic was also convinced it was a transmission problem. I got the car back the next day and was told it was a loose manifold bracket. That's 18 months ago now and have had no noises since. Just been out for a listen and i couldn't notice anything. I honestly think that it could be that as it sounds very similar

Ok thanks, worth a look, was it a bracjet on the exhaust or intake manifold?

[Corolla Glynn]

You are probably the first muppet I have come across on the forum. Not everybody needs to run out and do what you request!

My car does not make that noise now but it did before I had the input shaft bearing replaced. To be fair, as a lot of other members on here have suggested, it could be any 1 of these ideas. I had a new clutch at the time of the bearing being replaced, it could even be the clutch cover. It does not neccesarily get worse as the revs rise either, its more noticeable when you let the load off the bearing, say dipping the clutch!

So dont get mardy if you dont see the response you are looking for on here and if you want to take suggestions with a pinch of salt diagnose it yourself or go to a dealer/specialist.

By the way, I am a C and G qualified motor engineer who has been on the forum first time round since 2003 and was dealing with t sport corolla when they first arrived in the UK back in the end of 2001.

[jay053]

Im going out in a min, will try your experiment!

If you are worried about something being wrong and your warranty running out id just take it in, if they say not to worry say could you take a technician out in it to be sure!

Also as you have pointed it out before your warranty expires you will have that to fall back on if your engine explodes due to your wining noise!

Right im off to try it out!

JAY

[KPARRIS-JONES]

You are probably the first muppet I have come across on the forum. Not everybody needs to run out and do what you request!

My car does not make that noise now but it did before I had the input shaft bearing replaced. To be fair, as a lot of other members on here have suggested, it could be any 1 of these ideas. I had a new clutch at the time of the bearing being replaced, it could even be the clutch cover. It does not neccesarily get worse as the revs rise either, its more noticeable when you let the load off the bearing, say dipping the clutch!

So dont get mardy if you dont see the response you are looking for on here and if you want to take suggestions with a pinch of salt diagnose it yourself or go to a dealer/specialist.

By the way, I am a C and G qualified motor engineer who has been on the forum first time round since 2003 and was dealing with t sport corolla when they first arrived in the UK back in the end of 2001.

Cool off mate, he was miffed quite rightly because you said two words and gave no explanation which I too find annoying when I want to solve a problem. And if you are a C and G QME then you should be the best of us here to explain it and not give a two word reply.

He asked for help which is exactly what this forum is here for, and people such as you and myself are here to offer help with these problems. So why do you get angry when he asks for it and gets uppity when you don't offer that help?

No I am not trying to start a fight here so don't take it that way. I have nothing against you, but I do openly disagree with your post. :)

KP

[Corolla Glynn]

Kynan, I think the clutch assembly particularly the release bearing gets noisy and the input shaft bearing gets noisy over/time mileage on T Sports, but not on all cars. Some get more noticeable than others and the noise itself is not neccesarily something for concern. I have a contact at a Toyota dealer(service dept) he states they have done quite a few T Sport gearbox bearings.

So no offence at the time I did not have the opportunity to elaborate, just did not expect such a response from Bong w.

[KPARRIS-JONES]

Kynan, I think the clutch assembly particularly the release bearing gets noisy and the input shaft bearing gets noisy over/time mileage on T Sports, but not on all cars. Some get more noticeable than others and the noise itself is not neccesarily something for concern. I have a contact at a Toyota dealer(service dept) he states they have done quite a few T Sport gearbox bearings.

So no offence at the time I did not have the opportunity to elaborate, just did not expect such a response from Bong w.

Now it makes sense!

Thanks.

Sorted then. Could be the bearing, however I reckon it is standard noise. Only way to know is to compare then two cars, but seeing as we can't do that; BW it's your decision! ;)

[Corolla Glynn]

I suggest there are plenty of cars out there that have this noise, but how many owners see it as an issue?

Also as we have read in this thread, some seem to be worse than others, some dont have any of it.

I have had 4 demo demo T Sports from new and up to 10k never noticed any noises or issues that I have had on the 2 T Sports which I have owned personally. The clutch is a weak link on the T Sport and the input shaft bearing gets noisy over time and miles. But as said some are worse than others, I had the input shaft bearing replaced under warranty on my fl at 36k!

But I forced the issue because I had it done on the earlier car (at 46K) I owned too.

But the T Sport, I believe is a good reliable car and other members out there should not get unduly worried by the noise described, it may not get worse and its possible that its just the way these cars are. I enjoy mine every day, but I do think I am pretty clued up on T Sports I have been round them for long enough, but dont know it all by any stretch of the imagination!

[KPARRIS-JONES]

Stick around more often then! :P Could do with a knowledge base as extensive as yours. :D

[Red Yaris 54]

but I do think I am pretty clued up on T Sports I have been round them for long enough, but dont know it all by any stretch of the imagination!

"Tis not knowing much, but what is useful, that makes a wise man."

Thomas Fuller

[Mr_T_Sport]

It could be a loose manifold bracket! I had a very similar noise that was faint but you knew it was there. I could only hear it in 1st 2Nd and 3rd gear 3rd gear being the worst.I was positive it was a transmission problem as the noise disappeared when i pressed the clutch! I took it to the garage i bought it off and there mechanic was also convinced it was a transmission problem. I got the car back the next day and was told it was a loose manifold bracket. That's 18 months ago now and have had no noises since. Just been out for a listen and i couldn't notice anything. I honestly think that it could be that as it sounds very similar

Ok thanks, worth a look, was it a bracjet on the exhaust or intake manifold?

Dont know mate, i was just told loose manifold bracket.

[KPARRIS-JONES]

but I do think I am pretty clued up on T Sports I have been round them for long enough, but dont know it all by any stretch of the imagination!

"Tis not knowing much, but what is useful, that makes a wise man."

Thomas Fuller

That's what is known as fuel to the fire....

[Corolla Glynn]

One thing I do know is T Sports dont like being stood they need to be used.

I give caution to any body who is looking to purchase from a dealer, T Sports dont readily sell and when stood/ used very lttle over a short period say 6 weeks or more, you are likely to encounter issues with the clutch wheel bearings and brakes. Before I purchased mine I asked the sales guy about its history and how long they had held it in stock. Couple of weeks was the reply and it turned out the previous owner (he bought it new) was an old fella who had driven it gently!!!!!

Within 4 weeks of my purchase it has had;

ns front and rear wheel bearings

Front and rear brake pads (they were so noisy took them out to clean up and they looked like the car had been stood for a year)they were not half worn but so covered in build up, knackered.

Complete new clutch

Gearbox bearings (seen the internal invoice, costing over £1400)

Aircon part discharged so working intermittently.

All done under warranty bar the aircon and replacement pads.

I also replaced the lift bolts as they only cost £1.50 and such an easy job, but thats a different thread eh!

I also found out from the previous owner when he changed the car and its apparent that the Toyota dealer I purchased from had the car on his (and other group members)forecourt in total for 6 months.

[Bong Water]

You are probably the first muppet I have come across on the forum. Not everybody needs to run out and do what you request!

My car does not make that noise now but it did before I had the input shaft bearing replaced. To be fair, as a lot of other members on here have suggested, it could be any 1 of these ideas. I had a new clutch at the time of the bearing being replaced, it could even be the clutch cover. It does not neccesarily get worse as the revs rise either, its more noticeable when you let the load off the bearing, say dipping the clutch!

So dont get mardy if you dont see the response you are looking for on here and if you want to take suggestions with a pinch of salt diagnose it yourself or go to a dealer/specialist.

By the way, I am a C and G qualified motor engineer who has been on the forum first time round since 2003 and was dealing with t sport corolla when they first arrived in the UK back in the end of 2001.

Cool off mate, he was miffed quite rightly because you said two words and gave no explanation which I too find annoying when I want to solve a problem. And if you are a C and G QME then you should be the best of us here to explain it and not give a two word reply.

He asked for help which is exactly what this forum is here for, and people such as you and myself are here to offer help with these problems. So why do you get angry when he asks for it and gets uppity when you don't offer that help?

No I am not trying to start a fight here so don't take it that way. I have nothing against you, but I do openly disagree with your post. :)

KP

Theres not much more I can add to that, KPARRIS-JONES has put it much more politely than I would have. Thanks for the more detailed explanation, two word answers are frustrating they dont mean anything and thats why they should be explained which you have done now so thats great and thanks. Also I cant diagnose it myself thats why I am asking here, help is what forums are for, I get frustrated because I now there are people reading this that cant be ubikd where if it was me I would have done it on my next journey in the car, I am also used to a massive Honda Civic community that moves a hell of a lot faster than this site with regular users that have been posting that i've know for 6/7 years now so usually when I want to find something out I can find it out in a couple of hours not days, i'm still getting used to the Toyota forums. Many thanks to the people that have posted.

I went out with my mate last night when he was in my car and I asked him to listen for the noise, he said exactly the same thing my Dad said when he heard it, he said he can here it but it just "sounds like it wants to go" as in it doesnt want to sit in 3rd gear at 2krpm and thats why it dissapears as soon as you put more power down, like literally as soon as you press the accelerator and it goes over 2krpm it dissapears. He said if it was him he wouldnt worry about it and just get on with it, exactly what my Dad said. But at the same time he recognises that I literally have one days warranty left and said if i'm worried about it I should get it looked at, I am still a bit worried about it but I really dont know if I can be ubikd and might just leave it, the dealer is quite far away, it means i'll be without a car and its already been back as i've explained previously.

So, if you were in my shoes, what would you do!?

Option A: Stop being paranoid, listen to what the other people that have heard it have said and just get on with it

Option B: Ring up the dealer and explain the cars making a whining a noise particulary in third gear at 2krpm (it even sounds paranoid!) and explain that I want it looking at, I could ask them to arrange to have it looked at with a more local dealer which is only five minutes away

Thoughts appreciated

[KPARRIS-JONES]

Personally, I would go for option B, but I urge you to shutup and stick with A! :P

[Bong Water]

I'm dropping it off at the dealer tonight without even booking it in, i've only two days left and I dont trust them, I dont want the car back until the noise is gone, the noise just isnt normal, i've owned 14 cars and none of them from what I remember make this noise

[KPARRIS-JONES]

Good choice considering the time limits. Pansy. :P ;) Kidding!

I am very similar in that respect, but after having been around so many old cars you kinda learn what noises to worry about, and that to me isn't one providing it is the same one as I get.

Hope all gets sorted mate! :D

[vikvallabh82]

While out to the local body shop for a quote (another story) I thought I'd have a listen out, I do not get this noise.

[Corolla Glynn]

I spent about an hour in mine last night, sometimes I think I can hear it, then I can't.

My conclusion is that the t sport transmission is not the quietest you will find and the noise is more than likely a charactersitic of the car . Your only choice may be to leave it to develop, thats if it does!

Lets hope the trip to the dealer is conclusive, if I were in your position I would want an outcome, if possible, before the warranty expires.

[Bong Water]

I've decided its definitely not normal its just more conveniant for me to believe that it is, i'm sure you would agree if you heard it, when people are saying they think they can here it or its faint etc its not the same noise, I know what you mean but this different in third, its quite obtrusive, almost as if its in reverse

Thing is i'm going to drop my car off tonight so they obtain the car within the warranty period, thats me forcing it on them its not booked in or anything. They wont even touch it until Tuesday next week, just all seems pointless and a nightmare, I was really happy with the car, now I just wish I bought another Honda, I wanted this because I thought it was newer and problem free but its turned out to be the opposite. Hopefully its sorted anyway and they dont try and get out of it