Corolla D4D 2004 - Engine Died!

[coxy46]

Hi Guys,

Need your advice guys.

Below is my story…….

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Toyota Corolla D4D
116hp 2004 – 63,000 miles on the clock

Regularly Serviced

Oil and fluids always checked and had no previous problems.

6 months ago – Slight hesitation starting when engine still warm – No other problems

1^st Feb 2014– ‘Zingey’ like noise when started from cold, sounded like a belt sound, increases with Revs, stops making the sound after few hundred yards ofdriving – No other problems

4^th Feb 2014 – Low Oil Pressure light came on while on the motorway, within 30 seconds the engine stopped. Coasted on hard shoulder and bump started in third gear. Engine fired up, accelerated back onto the motorway and within 5 seconds engine stalled again. This time funny smell from the engine and wouldn’t start while warm.

AA towed the car back. Car starts but the ‘Zingey’ sound is still there and the low oil pressure light comes on. AA thought it was an oil pump failure, hence the low oil pressure. Engine could be slightly damaged but not seized as it still starts.

7^th Feb 2014 - Told by local garage that the engine is dead and would need replacing – Cost £700-£1,000 for a second-hand high mileage engine. Then £500 ish to fit. All told £1,500 to replace.

They gave me three options

1 Replace engine as above £1,500

2 Sell the car – Still awaiting price from them on this

3 Strip the engine down and try and figure out what’s wrong, was told by the garage that this probably going to cost more than replacing the whole engine.

What do you guys think?

What should I do?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards

Greg

[mcorban]

There has to be cheaper engines than that! I've gotten them here for less than that and they were alot less milage i can bet, sound like a garage wants a cheap motor, with what could possibly be an easier problem to fix than they're letting on. Get a second opinion.

[Raistlin]

Do they want the work, Get a second opinion.

[Parts-King]

You could get an engine cheaper, there are lots of breakers selling second hand units, and people like API who sell recon units. The £500 to fit is about right, there is a lot of work to swap over everything

Kingo

[coxy46]

Thanks for your posts folks.

To give you an update:

The garage has dragged their heels and have offered me £250 to buy the car off me. I passed on that one!

I have just towed it to a 2nd garage today who deal with engine faults/repairs and they seemed to think that the engine shouldn't be too seriously damaged as it still idles and that they could repair it. But obviously they need to look at it more first.

So I am awaiting their findings.

I'll let you guys know when I do.

[Raistlin]

Good Luck

[mcorban]

Fingers and toes crossed :)

Should be sound though

[coxy46]

Right, heard back from the new garage.

They reckon it's the fuel pump.

They are sending it off to a specialist to bench test it, but they seem very sure that the fuel pump can either be reconditioned or replaced and this will solve the problem.

Obviously I now have to wait. But at least it seems more promising.

As always, I'll keep you updated. :-)

[Raistlin]

That's good news, It beats buying a new lump...

[andycam06]

hope its just the pump for your sake, thats an easy enough fix.

I had to get a new pump a few years back.

toyota wanted E2,000 plus fitting, got it from a diesel engineering company for E350 plus fitting

[cmia]

Right, heard back from the new garage.

They reckon it's the fuel pump.

They are sending it off to a specialist to bench test it, but they seem very sure that the fuel pump can either be reconditioned or replaced and this will solve the problem.

Obviously I now have to wait. But at least it seems more promising.

As always, I'll keep you updated. :-)

I just want add something.. assuming this is the 1cd-ftv engine and has the denso fuel pump installed.

I have not heard of a fuel pump make a zingy noise.

The low oil pressure light has nothing to do with the fuel pump.

BUT

I have heard the alternator / pullies make a "Zeeeeeeee" and a springy type noise on cold and start up.

This lasts for a while and then goes away when it gets warmer.

[Everreadyrich]

Hi all,

My 2005 2.0 litre D4D Corolla had done 163,000 miles when it went bang.

The car was really lumpy & the engine management light came on.

The AA diagnosed a camshaft position sensor.

Further Toyota investigation pointed out a broken journal bolt from out of the crankshaft. This had destroyed the engine!

This was said to be caused by too much end float on the crank.

Great car up to that point.

Inchcape Toyota Derby wanted over £3000 to fix it!

I bought a salvage engine with 69k miles on it, the old engine was stripped of all the ancillaries as the salvage one was just a block, head & sump. I had a new clutch, water pump, cam belt & tensioner etc fitted & hopefully maybe now get another 4 or 5 years running. Fingers crossed.

I worked at Toyota Manufacturing, Burnaston, Derby & owned the car from new through their leasing scheme & bought it when i left Toyota.

The service at Derby Inchcape Toyota was very, very poor & I will never go back to that garage ever.

Hope no-one else suffers with this problem.

Regards,

Richard

[Rasmalai]

I have a 2004 facelift corolla 1.4 D4D T3 which has 150k on the clock and still drives perfectly. So far the only thing that has had to be replaced is the clutch.

[Capsat]

coxy46 what the update from your end mate ??