Aygo clutch lifespan?

[Mikes1992u]

How long do clutches typically last in an Aygo?

 I've got a 2012 Toyota Aygo with 85,000 miles with the original clutch, I've noticed the biting point is quite high and the release bearing is still clearing so it's probably not fixable with a cable adjustment. I was thinking about leaving it till next summer but by then it'll have 95,000 miles and I'm just not sure I trust it to last that long.

[steveo3002]

many have been replaced well before then , doesnt help that theyre often owned by folk that just passed their test

mine was done about 60k....can be anytime really depends how its used

you should notice slipping or difficulty selecting gears before it fails totally

[Catlover]

You done well at 85k and still going. The original Aygo, C1, 107 would be shot at by 35k, then they started putting a slightly larger diameter clutch fro the Yaris in, that cured the problem. The customer has to pay though, can’t remember hearing the three manufacturers were helping out.

[FROSTYBALLS]

The larger clutch from the Yaris was used in production from 2009, so the OPs Aygo would have had the larger clutch from new.

[Mikes1992u]

I was going to do it myself on the driveway, a clutch kit costs about £90. Only thing I'm worried about is if I'll be able to lift the gearbox with my lack of muscle xD.

The Toyota garage I took the car to said the clutch was showing signs of excessive wear at 10,000 miles on the first MOT (which is when I bought it), since then none of the MOTs I've had done have mentioned the clutch but I've been rev matching and pulse and gliding in slow moving traffic where fully engaging 1st gear isn't possible to reduce clutch wear as much as possible.

It maybe doesn't help that on my recent MOT I got a Nissan Micra 1.2L petrol to get home with, after driving that and getting back in my Aygo I noticed the clutch is very high and heavy, the clutch fully engages just before the free play on the peddle starts. Maybe Micra clutch's are just light? I don't know, maybe I'm just being paranoid although I don't think it's going to be a bad idea to replace it before problems do start showing.

[flash22]

It's a cable clutch, adjust it, before you kill the clutch - 60-120K on a clutch, tbh the Aygo is a small-engined car, and they like to rev

[steveo3002]

mot doesnt test the clutch so as long as it limps onto the ramp it will never get mentioned

ive always struggled to lift the boxes back on when diy'ing it 

[Catlover]

1 hour ago, FROSTYBALLS said:

The larger clutch from the Yaris was used in production from 2009, so the OPs Aygo would have had the larger clutch from new.

Correct

[Catlover]

As Flash says, get the clutch adjusted to see if that improves the situation. There will be YouTube videos showing how to do it, or get a good local garage to do it. 
OR exchange the clutch now, again, get a good local garage to do it. You could buy quality parts yourself (so you know quality is being fitted) and get the garage to fit. If you leave a clutch swop too long it could cause more damage/more cost.

If the original clutch has done 9 years, a couple or three hundred quid to get another nine years is low cost motoring.

[Mikes1992u]

There's still plenty of free play in the clutch pedal, I would've thought if the cable needed adjusting there wouldn't be much free play? 

[zuh]

10 hours ago, Mikes1992u said:

How long do clutches typically last in an Aygo?

It depends on many things.

Going 85 000 miles on the original clutch seems very good to me, even with a post-2009 car. Either you are a careful driver, or you never drive in-town.

[Cyker]

That high-biting point is normal for an Aygo and isn't indicative of a problem; It's one reason why I avoided them as I really didn't like it - The Yaris' biting point was dead centre of pedal travel and I just couldn't get used to the Aygo's after being used to that for so long!

85k on a clutch, esp. on a small CC petrol car, is really really good - No clutch has survived more than 30k in any car I've owned! Stop-start traffic on hills is murder on them. It's one thing I love about the hybrid drive in the Mk4 Yaris - Don't have to care about that any more!  

 

[Stormchaser]

On 10/8/2021 at 12:46 PM, Mikes1992u said:

There's still plenty of free play in the clutch pedal, I would've thought if the cable needed adjusting there wouldn't be much free play? 

This sounds fine to me.I wouldn,t adjust it if so otherwise you,ll make the cable too tight and give yourself more trouble.

[flash22]

There is supposed to be free play in the clutch pedal - see Devon's post

 

[rich146]

I would replace it at this point anyway. Nothing worse than breaking down in the middle of somewhere awkward or potentially dangerous. For the sake of a few hundred £'s , I wouldn't question it. 

[haelewyn]

From what I have read about the Aygo, the problem for the clutches was not just the diameter of the plate.
What counts too was that many people need to let it slip to take off due to lack of engine power and a long first gear.
in fact, all gears are / were on the long side.
That makes the clutches wear out faster than some other brands and models.

I agree that with 85.000 miles done on that car, you did a good job.
If I were you, I would keep on driving it until it slips noticably or until I hear some gears sounds when shifting.
Before : I don't see why you would..  If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Any ideas how long you still want to go on with this Aygo ? Will be replaced next year OR still want to do 80.000 more miles with it could determine your choice too.

[APS]

On 10/8/2021 at 7:23 AM, Mikes1992u said:

How long do clutches typically last in an Aygo?

 I've got a 2012 Toyota Aygo with 85,000 miles with the original clutch, I've noticed the biting point is quite high and the release bearing is still clearing so it's probably not fixable with a cable adjustment. I was thinking about leaving it till next summer but by then it'll have 95,000 miles and I'm just not sure I trust it to last that long.

Why would it not adjust? Have you maxed out the adjustment? If the clutch isn't slipping, badly juddering, and the release bearing is reasonably quiet, then keep driving.

We've done 85k in our newer Aygo and clutch shows no sign of giving up. I do not expect having to replace it in the near future.

[NoBrakesWC]

Is it normal to have a high biting point on MK1 or is it my clutch going?

[Cyker]

It's normal I'm afraid - I never got on with it when I had one for a courtesy car. Was so glad to go back to my Mk1 Yaris with its dead-centre clutch bite!

 

[Garethbr]

My 2013 Aygo is just coming up to 146000 miles and I'm still on the original clutch (much motorway driving in its first five years- I've only just replaced its first set of brake pads!). However, now there is a 'chirping' noise when the clutch pedal is fully up. The noise stops when you rest your foot on the clutch pedal. Could this be the thrust bearing (clutch release bearing)?

[Garethbr]

My 2013 Aygo (owned by me since new) is just coming up to 146000 miles and I'm still on the original clutch (much motorway driving in its first five years- I've only just replaced its first set of brake pads!). However, now there is a 'chirping' noise when the clutch pedal is fully up. The noise stops when you rest your foot on the clutch pedal. Could this be the thrust bearing (clutch release bearing)?

[Catlover]

Sounds like it could be.  If you going to strip down you may as well swop out the clutch friction and pressure plate as well.

[Garethbr]

6 minutes ago, Catlover said:

Sounds like it could be.  If you going to strip down you may as well swop out the clutch friction and pressure plate as well.

Thanks for your reply.  I'd be taking it to a clutch centre, does everything come in the clutch kit they'd fit, bearing as well?

[Catlover]

Gareth, I would imagine a kit would include the thrust bearing as well, but you can buy pieces separately. At 146k miles (that’s really good) I would hope a specialist would say do the lot.

My wife had one of the early Aygo/C1/107 models (56 plate) and clutches only lasted circa 30k no matter how good you drove. The approved remedy was to put a Yaris clutch in, solved all the problems but must have cost owners loads of money as the 3 car manufacturers did not pay out for their design fault.

[PetrolDave]

3 hours ago, Catlover said:

My wife had one of the early Aygo/C1/107 models (56 plate) and clutches only lasted circa 30k no matter how good you drove. The approved remedy was to put a Yaris clutch in, solved all the problems but must have cost owners loads of money as the 3 car manufacturers did not pay out for their design fault.

From late 2008 the 190mm (Yaris) clutch has been the standard fit.