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Coming from Auris 1.6 valvematic choose between Auris 1.8 hybris TS or Corolla 1.8 hybrid TS or Lexus IS 300h


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Hi everyone,

I am looking to buy a new old-car. Currently drive a 2011 Auris 1.6 Valvematic that has done 90k+ miles, we bought it 5 years back with ~50k miles on it. Yes it shows signs of age but we have had absolutely 0 problems with it especially because we were very new drivers when we got it, so its done very well. Ours is a Toyota family - we are spread over three continents and all preferentially drive Toyotas. My dad drove a diesel one for many years with 0 problems, his employer preferentially used Toyotas and they loved it for its low maintenance, reliability and parcticality. My brother on the other side of the pond drove a Corolla for 7 years, bought it at 70k+ miles and then sold (yes still functional and someone bought it!) at ~150k+ miles.

So obviously we are looking to buy another Toyota. Candidate cars are Auris 1.8 hybrid TS, Corolla 1.8 hybrid TS, and Lexus IS 300h. Here are my questions and will be very grateful for your suggestions/inputs/advice.

1. I am inching towards Auris 1.8 hybrid TS because it will be the cheapest of the three. But not sure if coming from Auris 1.6 valvematic which has ~135bhp - how sluggish/slow would Auris 1.8 hybrid feel like? Would we find it to be too dull to drive coming from a petrol Auris? We also had Fiesta Ecoboost for a little while. And in terms of handling and fun there was a lot of difference between the two ICE. Fiesta felt nippier and fun to drive than Auris and also was quieter. We are both very low fuss drivers and value reliability, comfort and safety more than performance. After a while, we did get used to the Auris driving. Between the two us, I prefer to have a more engaging car but I complain the least about Auris. My wife who wants a totally fuss free driving complains the most about how Auris struggles to accelerate on the slip road before merging into a faster road! I find it to be ok, if on rare occasions I want to accelerate faster then I drop a gear and rev up. So, now, not comparing it to Fiesta or any other car, just comparing to a manual 1.6 petrol valvematic Auris, how different/slow-to-accelerate would Auris 1.8 hybrid be? If not too much then high mpg of hybrid Auris should win us over.

2. Would Corolla 1.8 be a better option for a longer term family car? But then why would you choose used Corolla 1.8 hybrid over LExus IS 300h? From the approved used stock on Toyota and Lexus websites, 20-30k Corolla 1.8 hybrid TS is similar in price to Lexus IS 300h with 30-40k miles. Both are hybrid so good mpg, Corolla TS would have a bigger boot but Lexus IS is a saloon too so there should be adequate space, plus Lexus should be more reliable and we will have a chance to own a more posh car 😛 !! On paper Lexus IS has more bhp than Corolla 1.8/2.0

Many thanks
 

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Hi and welcome,

from all three cars you shortlisted the Corolla would be my first choice. It’s the newer from all, it’s got the gen 4 hybrid technology which means best as efficiency and driving, looks the best imo, it has the latest safety futures, and  it’s most practical car too. The Lexus IS  the most luxurious indeed however it’s not that roomie inside and been a saloon although have a large boot its not as practical as estate car, also it’s got previous gen hybrid drive train and bigger 2.5 ice and although faster over Auris and Corolla will not be as efficient, if that matter to you. About the performance all three will do way better than 1.6 Auris, I had been trying  1.33, 1.6 & 1.4d and 1.8 hybrid and guarantee you the hybrid it’s way faster and more engaging to drive than all others variants., so nothing to worry here, it will be definitely an upgrade from what you have now. Good top spec Auris TS hybrid will be close price to Corolla ts hybrid in icon tech or design trim. , I will rather have the Corolla. 
Good luck 👍

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Thank you, wow. So if Auris 1.8 hybrid TS will be faster/ more agile/ more economical and more fun to drive than our old 1.6 Auris then I would be inclined to buy that. I know Corolla is nicer - that would be the car we 'want' but Auris probably is the one we 'need'

 

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1 minute ago, kaboo said:

Thank you, wow. So if Auris 1.8 hybrid TS will be faster/ more agile/ more economical and more fun to drive than our old 1.6 Auris then I would be inclined to buy that. I know Corolla is nicer - that would be the car we 'want' but Auris probably is the one we 'need'

 

Yes, good choice too.👍 1.8 hybrids are faster than other variants because they get help from electric motor plus no need to change gears when need more of a punch, just press accelerator more and the car comes to life, they also drives so much easier, no clutch to press., no gear changes, they are really different from other automatic cars and driving experience it’s similar to electric cars. You have 3 driving modes to choose Eco, Normal and Power. 

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I agree with what Tony says, the Auris hybrid is a different beast to your 1.6 Auris. All Toyota hybrids are absolutely relaxing to drive, the “auto” gearbox, is as Tony said, unlike “standard” auto boxes.          
Tony mentioned 3 driving modes, Eco, Normal, Power. Especially in winter I always in Eco mode, summer also but sometimes Normal mode, but for you and your wife, as you are joining MWays via slip road etc you may benefit pressing the Power button. This gives you the fee,img of a bit of punch, it certainly responds quicker. These buttons can be pressed “on the go”, so is convenient. The TS Toyota will give you a good carrying capacity.

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I have a 2015 Auris hybrid TS. Acceleration is quite adequate in power mode. Certainly doesn't feel underpowered. Floor it and it goes.

If you have the funds buy the Corolla TS around a year old or buy new from Carwow or the like. It's more modern looking and has more features like adaptive cruise control and as said most up to date hybrid system.  Good space being an estate, ideal family car.

Looks great in Denim Blue, or Scarlet Flare.

James👍

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10 hours ago, kaboo said:

Thank you, wow. So if Auris 1.8 hybrid TS will be faster/ more agile/ more economical and more fun to drive than our old 1.6 Auris then I would be inclined to buy that. I know Corolla is nicer - that would be the car we 'want' but Auris probably is the one we 'need'

 

I would test drive both and see which you prefer. I haven't ever driven the Corolla estate hybrid.

James.👍

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16 hours ago, kaboo said:

Thank you, wow. So if Auris 1.8 hybrid TS will be faster/ more agile/ more economical and more fun to drive than our old 1.6 Auris then I would be inclined to buy that. I know Corolla is nicer - that would be the car we 'want' but Auris probably is the one we 'need'

Obviously you have your head screwed on the right way…… there is a big difference between what you need and what you want, and you got it right.

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18 hours ago, Catlover said:

Obviously you have your head screwed on the right way…… there is a big difference between what you need and what you want, and you got it right.

Corolla only real benefit is Adaptive Cruise Control and a bit better economy. If you can get an Auris for half the cost of the Corolla, then why not. Some of the features I wouldn't use anyway like LKA. My Auris is Icon plus +, Satnav, Heated front seats, Single zone CC. Cruise Control, Reverse camera. Tinted rear windows. Electric windowsx4. Do wish the window switches were illuminated like my 1996 Volvo 940.

James👍

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Thank you everyone really helpful to get advice here. 

We will definitely go and test drive, but good to do your own research and narrow down on a couple of choices. We are not too picky about cars, very picky about other things in life but for cars we just want them to last, be reliable, safe and comfortable, and now as environment friendly as possible. 

Ideally we will look for 2-5 year old and 20k-40k Auris TS or Corolla TS. I guess Corolla will be more efficient and punchier (thats what the websites say), better looking and would have more tech. But it wont be that much more efficient to compensate for the price difference. I have cruise control on this 1.6 Auris but never use it. Wouldn't really need reverse camera or SatNav either. Rear parking sensors are enough if needed at all and my phone can do satnav if there isn't one. But the money we save can be spent on other things that we value more or that would be more fun for us!  

So thank you again for allaying our worries of hybrid being dull! I cannot seem to understand the reviews from those Auto websites, not everyone wants to drive like Schumacher or Hamilton! 

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