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Thought I would post this.

I have been suffering a notchy gear change from first to second, surprisingly enough after the cat has warmed up. After putting off I decided to get it booked it. I got a call about an hour after i left the car to say it was ready to pick up. When I asked what had been done they explained they has fixed a rattle on the chrome ring just above the gaiter that is around the gear stick itself, inside the car. I then asked them to check the job sheet whcih stated the actual fault described above. To my real disappointment he phoned back five minutes later to say that nothing was wrong.

I called over to the garage and asked to speak to the techinician who worked on the car and got the service manager who apparently also test drove it. He explained that the clunkyness (is this a word?) was normal upon which I agreed and accept but he refused to accept the gear change was notchy. Or at least until I explained that I had previously had it in and a different technician agreed ther was something wrong and lubricated the gear linkages as an 'initial repair'. He then said they would change the cables associated with gear linkages and the car goes back on Thursday.

I am saying this to be shot down but I'm almost certain that the problem is either with the clutch or gearbox but I will wait and see after they have it on Thursday.

Anybody else experiencing this on their car (by the way its a '05 XT3)

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I too have an 05 XT3 D4D and find similar problem but only when changing 1st to 2nd unless I pause in neutral.Double clutching also helps. Change down is OK but that change is naturally slower because you cross the gate.

I have spoken to dealer and said I would monitor until 1st service as I also think problem internal with baulk ring or 1st/2nd synchro hub.

P.S. Recently retired after 40 years in motor trade, last 15 as service manager with a leading manufacturer. Not Toyota.

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Druand, are you experiencing difficulty getting reverse much also?

No problem with reverse. If you have problem engaging reverse and also having to push quite hard on gearlever for 1st (car stationary) it could be that clutch is dragging slightly.

Cheers Drew

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Druand, are you experiencing difficulty getting reverse much also?

No problem with reverse. If you have problem engaging reverse and also having to push quite hard on gearlever for 1st (car stationary) it could be that clutch is dragging slightly.

Cheers Drew

Thers a mod you can do on the selector shaft

It takes about 15mins and involves adding an extra washer to raise the ball that sits in the grooves of the selector shaft

This reduces the pressure n the shaft & the gear change is looser

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I know you guys have the same engine as the MR2 and Celica, dunno about the G'box.

The G'box is a known weak link on MR2's. It's usually the brass syncro's that are wearing. A change of Oil to Red-line helps (and hides the problem) but only a swap will solve the issue (until those ones wear).

It's usually going into 1st that's the issue. 2nd and then 3rd follow.

It'll just get worse :(

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I know you guys have the same engine as the MR2 and Celica, dunno about the G'box.

The G'box is a known weak link on MR2's. It's usually the brass syncro's that are wearing. A change of oil to Red-line helps (and hides the problem) but only a swap will solve the issue (until those ones wear).

It's usually going into 1st that's the issue. 2nd and then 3rd follow.

It'll just get worse :(

Nope but changing to a fully synthetic gear Oil helps

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  • 2 weeks later...

Just to let you all know. I got the car back on Thursday after having two gear selector cables fitted (unfortunately that is much as I know despite the fact I can't understand how cables work on a gear selector since they tend to operate in both the push and pull action). The notchy feel has now gone and the gear selection is has lost all its clunkiness. Quite happy with repair but the garage left Oil on the passenger seat. Go to go back to have it cleaned.

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