Oil Filter Wrench

[navygm]

Anyone knows from where I can buy an oil filter wrench? not the one with the chain... the one that is like a housing and it fits into the filter..

sorry couldnt post a pic cause I dont know how..

didn't find for yaris :S

thanks

[earpl]

http://www.oilfilterwrench.co.uk/sales.html

they will ship abroad too

[Madasafish]

Halfrauds selll them.. quite a good range as well

[clarky]

You get different styles mate - the one fro the yaris is a 'strap' wrench and has a webbing strap.

You can get other types - I have a different design that works better on the MR2 - its kinda a metal hoop that you can wind in or out.

[earpl]

you mean a proper on and a !Removed! one?

[jaxx]

jam a screwdriver through it and twist it off!

not as if your gonna use it again ;)

[earpl]

and then realise your new one is the wrong one :P

[alanbradley]

...there speaketh the voice of experience! :D

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[clarky]

Might be !Removed! but it still works for the 2 and was damn handy for the fuel filter on the paj! Anyway Im not the one that ended up with paj oil up my nose - now that was funny!

[jaxx]

and then realise your new one is the wrong one :P

OWN3d :P

[Bee]

Anyone knows from where I can buy an oil filter wrench? not the one with the chain... the one that is like a housing and it fits into the filter....

Not sure what you mean by "housing", but on page 8 in chapter 1 of the Haynes Toyota Yaris Manual, there is a photo of a "claw-type removal tool" (Photo 3.9). I guess this is what you are looking for.

Take a look:

1) Oil filter wrenches, somewhat uncommon:

http://www.buycentral.co.uk/qsh/oil+filter...17685&mrk=0

Further exploration of those mentioned:

2) Oil filter claw wrench

http://www.bizrate.co.uk/carparts1/oid4282...1__nwylf--.html

3) Oil filter spider (probably the same as the claw wrench)

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W26262D0D

4) Oil filter pliers (and other interesting tools, such as the suction tube, suction machine, and...hey, even a proper, secure, whole car stand!); an USA site.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V23D2597D

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Bee.

[navygm]

Anyone knows from where I can buy an oil filter wrench? not the one with the chain... the one that is like a housing and it fits into the filter....

Not sure what you mean by "housing", but on page 8 in chapter 1 of the Haynes Toyota Yaris Manual, there is a photo of a "claw-type removal tool" (Photo 3.9). I guess this is what you are looking for.

Take a look:

1) Oil filter wrenches, somewhat uncommon:

http://www.buycentral.co.uk/qsh/oil+filter...17685&mrk=0

Further exploration of those mentioned:

2) Oil filter claw wrench

http://www.bizrate.co.uk/carparts1/oid4282...1__nwylf--.html

3) Oil filter spider (probably the same as the claw wrench)

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W26262D0D

4) Oil filter pliers (and other interesting tools, such as the suction tube, suction machine, and...hey, even a proper, secure, whole car stand!); an USA site.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V23D2597D

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Bee.

The one in Haynes is exactly the one I was looking for!! i found the page on the book, and found the Claw type removal tool..

do you think that those links that you gave me are the same tool as Haynes shows?

if yes I will order that Claw tool if its good for vitz

Thanks for the info!!

[Bee]

1) Oil filter wrenches, somewhat uncommon:

http://www.buycentral.co.uk/qsh/oil+filter...17685&mrk=0

2) Oil filter claw wrench

http://www.bizrate.co.uk/carparts1/oid4282...1__nwylf--.html

3) Oil filter spider (probably the same as the claw wrench)

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W26262D0D

4) Oil filter pliers (and other interesting tools, such as the suction tube, suction machine, and...hey, even a proper, secure, whole car stand!); an USA site.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V23D2597D

...do you think that those links that you gave me are the same tool as Haynes shows?...

They don't look the same. The one in Haynes' has a triangular 'base' and the 'claws' look different, never mind the handle which appears to be joined to the base in a 'universal' joint, a much neater and more professional looking tool (more expensive presumably; but then you only buy it once) than the oil filter wrench/spider in the links I posted.

I'm also interested in this gizmo (no more oil -- carcinogenic reputedly, and hot as well, of indeterminate temperature -- running down the hand and sleeve!), so my search continues.

The other useful contraption in an oil change is a drain valve/plug:

http://www.blueovalsite.com/index.asp?Page...OD&ProdID=2

http://www.difflock.com/drainplug/index.shtml

http://hometown.aol.com/qckchanger/ (much the same as the drain plug above)

If you do find out where that Haynes' claw tool is from, be a good chap, don't keep it to yourself! :)

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Bee

[earpl]

if you have ever wondered how they make the haynes manuals read the following and i will tell you :)

say they're making a new manual for a clio..... the haynes man goes to a renalut garage, he hangs about a bit...... and finds out where the technicians go for their dinner...... he then get a bit friendly but the renault technicians get wise to this and realise he's from haynes.... so he then starts asking questions about the clio to which the technicians answer the questions with the biggest load of bull**** they can come up with. he goes back to haynes with a full notepad and thats how you end up paying £20 for a storybook :)

[Bee]

...they're making a new manual...the technicians answer the questions with the biggest load of bull**** they can come up with. he goes back to haynes with a full notepad and thats how you end up paying £20 for a storybook :)

Unlikely.

Speaking of Yaris, the Haynes team responsible almost certainly is the *only* group to have a stripdown and rebuild of a Toyota Yaris outside Japan. They almost certainly have access to the publicly unavailable, frequently updated technical manuals. And, being the most successful premier car manual publisher for the non-professional in the world, they most likely have a direct communication channel to the design and technical team in Japan too, and more than likely have their draft at some stage read by the same team for rooting out any inaccuracy. Why would they then put their reputation on the block by entrusting the offerings from a garage technician, no matter what position he is in, in a Toyota dealership some 8000 miles outside the city of Toyota, Aichi, Japan? It's a ***** and Bull story verily! :)

Granted Haynes manuals are not perfect. If you want more comprehensive details and better, cleaner, and more to the point line drawings, Autodata is the preferred choice, but it'll cost you more. A lot more!

http://www.gendan.co.uk/product_AUTOCD1.html

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Bee.

[alanbradley]

Haynes manuals make very good tool rests.

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[dawesy]

i only tend to use a haynes manual to see if the bolt im about to undo will cause somthing to explode. why is everything...'undo securing bolt and remove' which translates into swin off a 4ft long breaker bar to undo securing bolt. goto first aid kit to get plasters for skinned knuckles. then using a 20ton press remove offending part.

[Gnome]

i only tend to use a haynes manual to see if the bolt im about to undo will cause somthing to explode. why is everything...'undo securing bolt and remove' which translates into swin off a 4ft long breaker bar to undo securing bolt. goto first aid kit to get plasters for skinned knuckles. then using a 20ton press remove offending part.

The best one is:

"Undo bolt as shown in photo 12.4b. This will remove the starter motor, and will give you sufficient space to work in, blah, blah, blah...

Before doing this however, you should have..........."

:D

[jaxx]

ive got the proper toyota manual and the parts catalogue, and my dad has the haynes manual for the yaris.... makes a good coaster for your brew when flicking through the 'proper' manual on the laptop

[Madasafish]

Test for oil wrenches and Best Buys

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/pr...r_wrenches.html

[earpl]

yep haynes are proper pish..... there ok if you dont know your ear hole from your a*** hole though :)

[Bee]

yep haynes are proper pish..... there ok if you dont know your ear hole from your a*** hole though :)

You started this argument, earpl. So far you have mouthed nothing but abuse. Being abusive doesn't win argument, giving evidence in support of your claim does. Now tell us why you think the Haynes Manual is full of cow dung. Where are these wrong passages? List clearly the instances in the manual you consider incorrect. Be precise, give us by chapter and verse, lines and page numbers.

We are waiting. :)

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Bee.

[Woody27]

yep haynes are proper pish..... there ok if you dont know your ear hole from your a*** hole though :)

You started this argument, earpl. So far you have mouthed nothing but abuse. Being abusive doesn't win argument, giving evidence in support of your claim does. Now tell us why you think the Haynes Manual is full of cow dung. Where are these wrong passages? List clearly the instances in the manual you consider incorrect. Be precise, give us by chapter and verse, lines and page numbers.

We are waiting. :)

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Bee.

In fairness, there are probably better techniques than the ones given but earpl did say that if you don't know much about the car the guides are ok. So he doesn't just slag it off! For peeps who don't know so much (like me!), they are excellent walkthrough guides, but for those who do know the basics they could probably have the parts off quicker without reading the manual.

I must admit though i think i would always buy the haynes manual for the car as although having a forum can find me most of the knowledge i would need, having a haynes handy helps in the short term. For example, when wiring my sub in it helped with removing interior panels.

[seveer unaek]

yep haynes are proper pish..... there ok if you dont know your ear hole from your a*** hole though :)

You started this argument, earpl. So far you have mouthed nothing but abuse. Being abusive doesn't win argument, giving evidence in support of your claim does. Now tell us why you think the Haynes Manual is full of cow dung. Where are these wrong passages? List clearly the instances in the manual you consider incorrect. Be precise, give us by chapter and verse, lines and page numbers.

We are waiting. :)

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Bee.

He's not saying that the manual is specifically wrong... it's just in general that if you know what you're doing mechanically and engineering wise, then the Haynes manuals are quite poor for the amount they cost. They don't go into enough dteail, and they spend too long telling you how to dismantle an engine, which lets face it only about 0.5% of the Yaris owning population would ever bother to do.

For the more important and common fixes it simply says it should be dealt with by your dealer. For example... a smell of petrol is commonly caused by the release valve which should only allow excess fumes into the inlet when the car is running at full temperature... this is a cheap piece of electronic gubbins which fails regularly, meaning vapours escape all the time and the car smells a bit rich when started. In the manual it simply says a dealer should look at it.... why?? I bought a new valve for about a tenner and fitted it in about 3 minutes... problem solved.

They also say things like, 'undo this bolt'... wthat they don't tell you which they should is the bolt size, whether it's a bugger to undo etc... nope, just 'undo this bolt' so you ferret around for the right size, then realise it's wrong and then eventually get the right size one and find that the bolt is seized on and requires half an hour of wd40 and breaker bar action to get it off.

Basically, they're unclear, they don't offer proper descriptions and the technical aspects of the car that you'd want to know, like engine codes and diagnosis etc are totally left out. They have no target audience... on one hand it's soooo basic it can make you cringe (like a whole paragraph with pictures on checking tyre pressures) and on the other it's just pointless (like the engine strip-down which is covered in more detail by any basic mechanics hand-book) They're fine for occasional reference, but for proper mechanics, they're quite poor. That was Earpl's argument as i saw it.

[earpl]

yep haynes are proper pish..... there ok if you dont know your ear hole from your a*** hole though :)

You started this argument, earpl. So far you have mouthed nothing but abuse. Being abusive doesn't win argument, giving evidence in support of your claim does. Now tell us why you think the Haynes Manual is full of cow dung. Where are these wrong passages? List clearly the instances in the manual you consider incorrect. Be precise, give us by chapter and verse, lines and page numbers.

We are waiting. :)

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Bee.

Ha ha.... fool :) here you go then :) i've even stopped of at Halfords to make you look daft :)

*Routine maintainance + servicing

*chapter 1

*page 5

*Under bonnet view of a 1.3 litre (2nz-fe) engine model.

picture at the top of the page clearly shows a picture of the top of the 2nz-fe, with lots of nice little arrows showing you what the oil filler cap is.... all vey nice.

the picture at the bottom of the page clearly shows a picture of the underside of the engine, same again nice little arrows showing you which bit is the engine etc. but the only problem is........ its not the right engine.......... nice one haynes..... oh i had a go with my new camera phone whilst i was there too....

so then bee........... how do you like DEM apples??? :)