Modified Cars Can Kill

[GIDDLEPIN]

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I know this is Dale but what planet do the people who write these reports come from?

There are a lot of people who add things to their pride and joy to improve its performance/appearance but the way this lot are talking everybody with a modification is going to crash and burn killing hundreds of people in the process

I haven't posted this because of who is shown in the video but what the subject is about, so please don't start making judgements about an individual, this is just another public exercise to knock us enthusiasts and I think it stinks!!! :ffs:

[Phoenix999]

Modified cars CAN kill and DO kill but only if they are driven by numpties in a most stupid manner

I have to be honest and say that I do not fully understand the reasons for fitting a NOS kit to a car but hey, if that is what the owner wants to buy then so be it.

Regardless of whether it is a modified car or a super car I just hope that they are driven sensibly :)

[Bizarra]

Totally agree, Les. My car isn't modified & never will be. as I want to keep her as an "Original", but I agree that those who wish to modify should have the freedom to do so.

This world is far too over regulated.

[Pat2u]

All vehicles kill if in the hands of irresponsible drivers, driving takes a long time to master just passing a driving test does not prove that you are a master at it, the unforeseen can and will occur in the life of holding a licence, we all need to bare this in mind and think think and think again whilst driving what is a potential weapon of death regardless of any mods done to it.

[SJandMR2]

Oh, I just heard Dale on the radio didnt realise he made a movie as well Go Dale!

Anyway my 2p not that my V8 Aygo is highly modified or anything! But these figures don't show anything, so 500 driver out of how many a year? I think people who modify their cars have much better understanding of how there cars work there for can drive them better and tend do so. Why would someone like Dale who has spent 16k want to drive like a loon and wreck his car, he wont! What a waste of money that would be!

[JappyBeast]

This doesnt count for all the tools driving about in their 1.2 Corsa's like idiots tho, showing off in tight spaces like McDonnalds carpark, I fear for the safety of my car in places like that!

You get loads of terrible driving by people in small cars. There are loads round here all driven by 17 year old cap dwellers!

They see a car like mine and then they are instantly tailgaiting me, thinking they are 'all that'.

To me that is more of a danger than a performance enthusiast!

**rant over**

[Boro Sera]

It's just a pre-emptive strike by the motoring organisations in readiness for the new Fast and Furious film hitting the skinnymas.

I've got a standard Suzuki Ignis - more than capable of mowing through the people queueing at a bus stop If I want it to ! I don't get on the radio though :(

[Bizarra]

Anyway, what is the difference between the guy who spends a small fortune modifying his car & the Guy who spends a small fortune buying a "Super" car ?

Both will have high performance vehicles, in which they have invested "Mortgage " money , & will have the knowledge & skill to drive safely.

If the Authorities are going to modified car owners, they should do the same to Super car owners. Both are equal

[Demonic Angel]

As Rich has already said, you can kill yourself and others in a standard car.... but its the person who kills and their mentality behind the wheel. If they have a car they simply cannot control due to the power caused by modifications, then yes, there is a chance they could kill someone.

I think there are a few people who drive modded cars who have very overly-inflated egos and show it blatantly in their driving style. You don't tend to find this so much with people driving standard cars, but yes, it happens both ways. There's a BIG difference between a confident driver and a cokky driver and a fair amount of modded car owners do fall into the latter category... they think they're the best driver on the planet with their supe'd up wheelz and they're the sort you get on here with their tales of "I totally beat an M3 in a drag race on the A462 today" - they have no regards for anyone's safety and believe they're Gods gift to driving.

Maybe having a big accident will actually teach them something... it certainly taught me and I didn't drive like an utter tool before but I have an almighty respect for the road now and I believe I am a better driver for it. That's a confident driver, not a cokky one.

There's a big difference here though between genuine car enthusiasts, who love their car and treat it and others on the road with respect and the aforementioned cokky drivers who try and rule a master that is unrulable.

Perhaps they shouldn't be thinking of banning performance mods, but instead get people to take advanced driving courses so they know how to control their cars properly and have an understanding of the definition of "a good driver"?

[Bizarra]

As Rich has already said, you can kill yourself and others in a standard car.... but its the person who kills and their mentality behind the wheel. If they have a car they simply cannot control due to the power caused by modifications, then yes, there is a chance they could kill someone.

I think there are a few people who drive modded cars who have very overly-inflated egos and show it blatantly in their driving style. You don't tend to find this so much with people driving standard cars, but yes, it happens both ways. There's a BIG difference between a confident driver and a cokky driver and a fair amount of modded car owners do fall into the latter category... they think they're the best driver on the planet with their supe'd up wheelz and they're the sort you get on here with their tales of "I totally beat an M3 in a drag race on the A462 today" - they have no regards for anyone's safety and believe they're Gods gift to driving.

Maybe having a big accident will actually teach them something... it certainly taught me and I didn't drive like an utter tool before but I have an almighty respect for the road now and I believe I am a better driver for it. That's a confident driver, not a cokky one.

There's a big difference here though between genuine car enthusiasts, who love their car and treat it and others on the road with respect and the aforementioned cokky drivers who try and rule a master that is unrulable.

Perhaps they shouldn't be thinking of banning performance mods, but instead get people to take advanced driving courses so they know how to control their cars properly and have an understanding of the definition of "a good driver"?

Words of wisdom, as usual I'm afraid to tempt fate by saying it but I've been driving for nearly 60 years without an accident, being put up on a Tractor when I was 8. Only exception was when a stupid Mother & child walked behind me when I was reversing into a parking space. No harm done to either, bar fright.

I like the way you avoided the swear filter :lol2:

[cfc1]

I think we all agree that there ARE numpties on the road with modified cars who think they are Mr. Superdriver, but there are also numpties on the road with 1.0 standard cars who also think they are Mr. Superdriver as there are numpties on the road who drive a supercar that think they are Mr. Superdriver... it's not the modified cars that can kill, a standard 1.0 and a supercar can kill too... it's Mr. Superdriver behind the wheel that does the killing.

They make a fair point on new drivers more likely to be involved in an accident, statistics seem to support this, so perhaps they should change the rules on what you are allowed to drive on a new liecence.. upto a 1.2 for the first year, upto a 1.6 for the 2nd year and after 3 years you can get behind the wheel of a more powerfull car... regardless of how old you are.

Dale could have washed the car before it went on the telly though

[dawesy]

what a load of trash. yes prevent new and inexperianced drivers from increasing performance.

as has been said already if you have spent enough on a car you wont want to trash it.

Health and safety brigade have obviously had a quiet spell and just woke up

[SJandMR2]

Being neither young or owning a modified car am no expert here but doesnt insurance prices prevent a lot of it already? IE you can't get insured on car high performance cars until your 21 or 25 or if you can the cost is going to be require a small mortgage?

[cfc1]

Thats my point.. change the law so that even if they have the money their inexperience means they aren't permitted to go above a cetain CC or BHP... as is/was the case with motorbikes.

[Norfolk n Chance]

Modified cars can kill??

I've just declared my mods and it made my insurance cheaper

So the AA have a problem with them huh? Maybe they should just stick to fixing broken down cars :P

[Pompey Gaz]

its an easy subject for the media to get hold of. If they can cause a panic by revealing figures then the public will react to the media's point of view. I have a degree in how it works lol. Like its been said how many new drivers are there a year? 500 will only be a small proportion, and how many of them 500 are actually at fault?

[Pompey Gaz]

i just been quoted £106 a month for a 2ltr scooby, cheaper than for my 1.2 Grande Punto

[jaxx]

Modified cars killed my family and raped my microwave... :(

Ban them all!

[bothwell_buyer]

As Rich has already said, you can kill yourself and others in a standard car.... but its the person who kills and their mentality behind the wheel. If they have a car they simply cannot control due to the power caused by modifications, then yes, there is a chance they could kill someone.

I think there are a few people who drive modded cars who have very overly-inflated egos and show it blatantly in their driving style. You don't tend to find this so much with people driving standard cars, but yes, it happens both ways. There's a BIG difference between a confident driver and a cokky driver and a fair amount of modded car owners do fall into the latter category... they think they're the best driver on the planet with their supe'd up wheelz and they're the sort you get on here with their tales of "I totally beat an M3 in a drag race on the A462 today" - they have no regards for anyone's safety and believe they're Gods gift to driving.

Maybe having a big accident will actually teach them something... it certainly taught me and I didn't drive like an utter tool before but I have an almighty respect for the road now and I believe I am a better driver for it. That's a confident driver, not a cokky one.

There's a big difference here though between genuine car enthusiasts, who love their car and treat it and others on the road with respect and the aforementioned cokky drivers who try and rule a master that is unrulable.

Perhaps they shouldn't be thinking of banning performance mods, but instead get people to take advanced driving courses so they know how to control their cars properly and have an understanding of the definition of "a good driver"?

here we go - canna agree - sorry. Respect yer argument but its wrong. The worst drivers on the road are taxi drivers.

I have 2 heavily modded RAV4s - both running more than twice the bhp they were originally designed for. I aint had an accident my fault for 30 years....thank goodness. I like my RAVs and I like older cars. I try hard to ensure the machine is working to as high a safety level as possible and I know the cars limitations having owned 1 of them for 15 years.

I'll happily beat up BMW M3s; audi A6s or whatever; and will drive fast in conditions where I deem it appropriate. Being cut up by clowns in taxis (not hackneys I hasten to add); eeejits in small white vans, and a certain maniac in a cable companies works car is where the problem lies. Most of the tuned up cars are driven not too bad.

Why on earth would a youngster pay out thousands to then go out and trash the car?

[bothwell_buyer]

Mind you, I thrive on the ready availability of turbo MR2s for donor cars for my projects :wacko: Most of them being front end smashes - no doubt by a man driving whilst using his mobile phone and eating a fish supper and having a fag.

[JappyBeast]

Mind you, I thrive on the ready availability of turbo MR2s for donor cars for my projects :wacko: Most of them being front end smashes - no doubt by a man driving whilst using his mobile phone and eating a fish supper and having a !Removed!.

Or it could be that they are very tail happy cars!

[cabcurtains]

As i posted last week the insurance on a modified car is cheaper with specialist's because they know you wont want to destroy your pride & joy. Accidents do and will happen, however of these "500" fatalities by youngsters in modified cars, how many involved tidy MR2's with declared (i assume) mods and how many involved Corsa's with undeclared big wheels?..........i would imagine i already know the answer.

[Karma Supra]

they think they're the best driver on the planet with their supe'd up wheelz and they're the sort you get on here with their tales of "I totally beat an M3 in a drag race on the A462 today" - they have no regards for anyone's safety and believe they're Gods gift to driving.

LOL!!!

My car is totally standard.... Which makes it no safer at all because every idiot with a modified car that thinks straight line performance is everything thinks he can "beat me" and tries to do so, lurching forwards and backwards trying to get me to "bite" *cough Bothwell*

Oddly enough I never seemed to have anywhere near the same level of wannabe racer chavs trying it on in the supra, which had similar straight line performance, and was actually fairly modified (see sig)

[Raistlin]

The only modification you really have to worry about is the nut behing the steering wheel

[Bizarra]

The only modification you really have to worry about is the nut behing the steering wheel

Truest thing you ever said

The Rule of Health & Safety is that no one should die Hospitals keep people alive by artificial means, with no hope of any quality of life

I'm pro euthanasia. I do NOT want to be unable to communicate or look after myself

OOPs :P I've been & gone & gone again :D . Em will apply the euthanasia [of death]