Just been catching up on this one, and I guess like everyone else I'll add my tuppence worth. POLITICS, oh yes been the ruin of many a poor man as the song says.As far as TOC goes,if it were not for Don, Steve and Gaz (the mods) and the active members like all of us, this club would be dead and buried.Steve (the owner of TOC) has tried his best to keep it fresh and interesting IMHO.But when you come up against situations like has happened to the club manager, I guess he is fighting a loosing battle.If you don't read other forums you would probably miss what goes on but apparently he has packed it in because of comments made by other members despite all the work he has done in the past for the club.A thankless task I guess as Don for one would probably tell you. So I guess it comes down to us, the ordinary club members to keep it going, keep it fresh, have a laugh and not take things too seriously.I have allways found the Rav forum a great place for help and info, and that is down to all of us, some obviously a lot more than others, especially on the technical side of things. As for Charlies situation, all this stuff about stars and this feedback/reputation stuff is just all trivia.Even to the point where, if you click on to my profile, you will see that I have a reputation of -1, but still neutral. Which means that some sad member with freak all to do with their time, did not like some post I have made in the past and decided to be a little jobsworth and mark it down.Well bowlocks to whoever it was as I could not care less. Anyway rant over, WE are the club, not the POLITICIANS who award stars or whatever, and if you want to vent I find using acronyms just as good as the actual swear words that get blocked F F S