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If you're concerned about residuals, it might be best to avoid the PHV completely and stick with the Gen4 ordinaire. PHV values might end up riding the wave of interest in electric cars and hold up well. However, they sell new in pitiful numbers and seem more likely to remain misunderstood by most buyers who remain fearful of any car that has a plug, which will keep values depressed. I can't imagine having five seats will have any great impact on sales. It may make a difference for some, but I'd imagine that if you needed five seats, you'd almost certainly need more luggage space than the comically tiny boot will offer. Therefore I don't think it will impact on values of the 4-seater much. As regards holding out for a 'bargain' in a few months, that logic might not work because logic doesn't seem to apply to used PHV prices. It may be different now, but a year ago I found prices - like many low-volume cars - to be incredibly random. It wasn't unusual to see differences of up to £4k between dealers for cars with the same plate, colour and mileage. More bizarrely, having monitored Auto Trader for a good 6 months, I found that advertised prices for some cars would often go up over time! The amount of time a car had been for sale also seemed to have zero impact on the dealer's willingness to 'do a deal'. I tried a few of these and they were happy to let me walk away without even bothering to negotiate, despite me pointing out that other cars were advertised for considerably less. To be honest, trying to buy a PHV was the most frustrating and depressing experience I've ever had buying a car, as all the familiar 'rules' for buying used cars just didn't seem to apply. I got there in the end, but only after hundreds of miles travelled and many weeks of trying. I hope you have better luck, and a more enjoyable time!

just to let others know.... I have a Touring Sports with Keyless fob. I've read about thieves sending signals to your fob in your home to start your car. I bought a Mission Darkness Faraday bag for Keyfobs from Amazon for £17 to keep my keyfob in overnight. I tested this faraday shielding bag with the Faraday test app, and it gave so much more shielding that other faraday bags out there I also went to Settings on the car and disabled SmartEntry&StartSystem (so now I have press the Start button with the fob to start the car): I think this further reduces chances of KeylessEntryTheft While I was there, I changed setting such that my double clicking the lock button on my fob, it Double Locks the door locks. I suppose that's also good right? But I don't know why that doesn't come as default! Hope people find this helpful. Do leave comments if I've done something whacky! I'm new to this forum, and find people Really friendly!

Filled the car to 2nd click after being delieved and have done 205 miles and filled up again to 2nd click on the pump Used 13.41litres so averaged 69.57 mpg which was a combination of motorway and town driving (the onboard computer gave a reading of around 76 mpg) I think this is really good mpg which I think may increase as the engine loosens. Only done 300 miles total What are others getting

There is no schedule other than an oil level check every 4yrs 40,000 miles

Spirited Aqua! 🤢😁 Colour's a personal thing of course, and there are plenty on here who love it. However, a couple of the less obnoxious dealers I spoke to suggested it was a difficult colour to shift and had caused them problems trying to move on their early demos which had been ordered in that colour as the 'signature' PHV shade. They reckoned grey would be the easiest colour to sell, despite being the one colour that completely fails to show off the car's shape. I can't say I trust that view, given that they'd hardly sold any of the damn things anyway, and one of them was trying to sell a grey car to me at the time! I wanted pearl white with a white interior, but none came up for sale at all in that spec. Pearl white's a magnificent colour for the shape of the car. The white interior feels amazing to be in, but I don't think many were specced with it from new and I imagine it would put quite a few people off. I'm used to going through hassle, especially travelling long distances, as I've always been one of those saddos who spends ages researching a car purchase and decides on a very precise model and spec that is invariably not a 'mainstream' choice and thus proves to be virtually impossible to find on the second-hand market. Ironically, the PHV was the most 'available' car I've wanted for some time. Sadly, the unwillingness of multiple dealers to 'negotiate' on the cost-to-change once they found we weren't interested in finance, prolonged the experience rather more than I was expecting, as did the shocking condition of some of the cars which you've already experienced yourself. As for the PHV's desirable attributes, I've loved hybrids for years. The idea of having one that could get me to work on electric power only and still deliver outstanding economy on the journey home even when not charged from a socket, proved irresistible. And, of course, that carbon fibre tailgate... 💕

I believe the one at Snows is white. Snows at Millbrook Southampton are keen on the plug in prius and nearly always have one. Used plug in prices go up and down. I picked up my pip mk1 when there was a sudden glut of used pips and the prices dropped about 3k. Once the glut had gone the prices went back up. Pip mk2 might do the same. They have only been around since march 2017. There could be a few more used ones once they have been around for 3 years.

I turned the keyless off quite soon after getting the car. Its a great feature that is very convenient to have but I'd rather not risk the scum of the earth trying their chance with a relay attack to take the car.

Hi Lee, thank you for your reply. As it happens I’ve booked my Prius in for a service next week & I was going to have a catloc fitted but as you have told me there isn’t one available yet for Gen4 Prius. Regarding the cat itself, before I retired I worked as a research chemist & from what I recall about catalytic converters they are basically a box containing rocksill wool or something similar with precious metals finely deposited within the ‘wool’ structure to provide a large surface area to maximise the exhaust gas/catalyst contact. However, the amount of precious metal I understand is quite small, so I doubt if these thieving scum are after the metals. As someone suggested they probably sell the cats on for a knock down price to someone with an older Prius who’s cat is spent or even someone whose cat has been stolen!!!!! Thanks again for your reply.

Could also speak to your dealer and get them to change the rear glasses for standard ones, main glasses are £82 ea + vat quarter glasses are £20 ea + vat

Put leather style seat covers on them to protect so dont see the fabric any way

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Thanks Nathan, I appreciate the follow. Thanks also for the progress boost. I've ordered some chassis braces, which should be here in the next 6-8 weeks, a long time I know, but hopefully they will make a video appearance the moment I get them. The brakes are next on the list, i.e. bigger ones, with better calipers, along with braided hoses, and hopefully cunifer pipe work. I've reached out to A.P.racing regarding the set up I would like, and although it seems crazy for a 1.6, obviously the plan is to fit a better engine in the car towards the end of this year, or the start of next year. I'm having a few issues with researching what parts I need for the brakes, along with working a lot (which is great for the project car funding), as well as family stuff. As you know it's all a balancing act, but it's not only stressful but also enjoyable.

Manufacturers' figures are definitely attainable on individual journeys, in the right conditions and with the right driving style. Whether they are achievable as a long-term average is a different matter. I did manage to get within a whisker of the Gen3's offical figure (on 17s) over a year and 14,000 miles. However, my commute is hybrid-friendly and I do drive to maximise economy. I am dismayed by the change to WLTP figures. I don't want to know how economical a car is when being driven by some ignorant leadfoot. I want to know how economical it could be when driven by someone who knows what they're doing, in favourable conditions, so I have a figure to aim for. As an aside, I was reading one of the crappy motoring mags this week, can't remember which one - Autocar or What Car probably - and they had a head-to-head test of a second hand Prius Gen 4 against an Ioniq. The idiots doing the test managed to get just over 50mpg on the test from the Prius and high 40s from the Ioniq. How is it even possible to get figures that bad? They must have been literally pedal to the metal, everywhere. These muppets have absolutely no business writing about cars designed for economy when they haven't the first idea how to drive them in the manner intended.

DVSA have today published information on how the failure rates of the revised MOT have changed. The MOT was revised from 20th May 2018, and DVSA have compared figures for the first six months (20th May 2018 to 19th November 2018) with the same period in 2017. The number of cars failing emissions tests has more than doubled. 744,592 cars failed emissions tests in 2018 compared to 350,472 for the same period in 2017. Since the changes were introduced if the MOT tester can see smoke of any colour coming from the exhaust, or finds evidence that the DPF has been tampered with, would result in a major fail. 505,721 petrol cars failed in 2018 (292,468 in 2017) 238,971 diesel cars failed in 2018 (58,004 in 2017) 19,648 diesel vans failed in 2018 (3,585 in 2017 - an increase of 448%)