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I do that kind of mileage (pre covid 20,000 plus per year), and claim back HMRC rates. I find the 2.0 actually makes money on mileage, I need to do 43 min, with non-supermarket fuel to break even. Currently with the cold weather 54 is easy, and when warmer 63 to 64 has been my average on a long run. It easily equals, and even exceeds, my previous frugal V40 2.0!

Had a quick look on the Toyota portal this afternoon, and Version 2 of the 2020 map is available for download. I wondered if there would be an update due to the disruption this year, but as we approach the end of 2020, they made it!

I have the 2.0 Design and I can tell you it's a dream machine. You will not be disappointed. Mine is tyrol silver which looks great. I know I sound like a Toyota salesman but it's a fantastic piece of engineering.

If the cost difference is negligible and you’re doing that much mileage I’d go for the 2.0. I have the 1.8, I do 6000-8000 miles a year but if I did 15000 plus and didn’t have to pay for my own fuel then I’d be all over the 2.0 like butter on toast.

I’ve come from a 2010 1.8 hybrid Auris (136bhp) to a Corolla 2.0 TS (MY21) design. The 2.0 appears to deliver similar MPG to the Auris, yet is more flexible with its electric running (higher speed EV mode). The 2.0 is much better for out of town running - country lanes & motorways, the extra power & torque is really noticeable, and you find in normal driving you don’t have to work the powertrain as hard. You rarely find the revs souring with the 2.0, whereas the 1.8 demands forays into the ‘power area’ much more regularly. Im really pleased with the 2.0, it’s surpassed my expectations.

I also owned the Auris 1.8 that has 136 bhp. It had the power when needed no problem. So going from that to the 1.8 Corolla 122 bhp it was a step backwards powerwise but was much quieter when revving hard when I test drove it, but just felt too sluggish against the old Auris. Hence the 2.0 Corolla was my choice.

I’ve got the 1.8 excel hatchback in the Pearl red which I think really suits the car although it was a £900 option. Wish I had gone for the design as I don’t think the excel is worth the money for the extras that you get. I found that it does struggle on Long steep hills went on holiday to brixham Devon was nearly flat out up telegraph hill with myself and passenger and luggage. if it’s a company car is mpg really a problem? go for the 2.0 but the touring sports as you get the extra legroom in the back and bigger carrying capacity.

You should have an award for service to Toyota Nav maps Andru! I have just come back to PC and now transferring the FMU file to the stick. That will take another 30 minutes. Update the car tomorrow I expect, another hour...

I wonder if it finally has the A43 to Banbury road stretch of the A422 at 60mph? I swear I corrected this twice because the first correction got partially reverted.

I started the download to PC and saw that it was a 12gb download so I stopped it and will download again when I have more time. The download to USB tab works for me but it's actually downloading to my PC which can be confusing for any fisrt time user.Then from PC to USB stick manually as I normally do.

Glad you are pleased with it Michael.Any piccies ? Toyota Salesmen,in my opinion do not sell cars.The cars sell themselves :):)

Thanks for the heads up on the map update. I knew it was due anytime now but also wondered if Toyota would let it lapse untill later. Like you say, they made it.

Thats great news ( of course i meant cm not inches) and thanks for measuring

I can help with that - just measured mine and it’s 43 cm to the lowest point of the retractable cover, about 45 cm under the main part close to the rear seats

Good choice, it might just fit your toolbox but look at this review answer it’s there at around 12:30. Colour is very good too, I be seen it in person and looks modern and clean. 👍

I haven't owned the last model, but I have driven it. And I have done some miles in a hybrid Auris. Whilst you wait for owner's responses, here's my thoughts from a short drive 2 weeks ago (when cold and damp) of a Design level trim model on 16 inch wheels and a panoramic roof fitted. In no particular order, these were my impressions: The car is obviously more energetic at low speeds than the older generation Yaris/Auris/Prius hybrids. This is it's most striking feature when driving compared to the last one. It could even bring out the hooligan in you, if you were susceptible. Much more suited to a 'point and squirt' driving technique in the urban situation, if required. This might be exaggerated by a shorter, lighter throttle (?) with a different response curve. (I only drove the car in 'normal' mode.) On he open road, the car has enough electric power to very gently accelerate the car to about 41 mph before the engine finally cuts in, this was on the flat with no wind, but this might improve with familiarity. I was quoting this as a reference point, not as an important feature. The engine was also less inclined to 'rev-out' than the old one when spirited acceleration was used, following the pattern set by all new models. The ride is good, but not quite as big an improvement as I seem to remember the Corolla being over an Auris, especially as the Corolla I tried was on 18 inch wheels, and the Auris I drove in on was on 15 inch ones. The battery is happier to sit in a mid-charge position when the car is being driven when compared to older versions of hybrid, I think, and the hybrid system seemed to be more 'engaged' when driving. It was as if the car's designers were now unconcerned as to what happened to the traction batteries longevity - so they could use the batteries harder and longer. The 'engine braking' on a zero throttle seems significantly more than before, but this just needs getting used to. The car feels more 'planted' than the Yaris or the Auris, the wheels do feel like they are out at the corners of the car. This could be aided by the shape and fit of the seats, which suited me quite well. The digital dash is a mixed bag for me. Some of this is just unfamiliarity, but the previously fine resolution of the old charge meter dial, for instance, is not reproduced by the few 'digital' circular segments that illuminate on the new version, there is less detailed information here. But does this matter to you? Maybe not. The digital dash is not fitted to the base model, on that it is a conventional dial format. That base model also has halogen headlamps - I wonder if these are better than the last model's? I hope so! All other trim levels get LEDs headlamps over here (UK). Apart from the small conventional, temperature control knobs, the heater is managed by small, black push-buttons set against a black dash. Until you become familiar with these, I would judge these as 'style over substance'. All the heater controls are set quite low down, so not so easy to see at a glance. These settings are probably mirrored on the central 'infotainment' display when you adjust them, I didn't notice. The 'gear shift' is nicer feeling and much better looking than the old Yaris (but not Auris and Prius!). The handbrake is electric, which for me, is a solution looking for a problem - I really don't mind using a handbrake. The car has 'hill hold' which worked well when I tried it out, although I wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there. At least in this hybrid application, it's slightly delayed release does not accelerate clutch wear, as it might do on a conventional car. The engine is obviously a 3 cylinder, you can easily hear the distinctive 'thrum'. It's cutting in and out is not as smooth as four cylinder hybrid variants, but it's not a problem. The engine is quite keen to quickly cut in when needed. The car I was in (Design trim) had reverted to a completely conventional ignition key and column lock. It has two windscreen wipers now as well, I didn't need to use them much on my drive. The elbow rest that is sculpted into the driver and passenger's door is completely without any padding at all. I use this arm rest a lot on all the cars I drive. This one was rubbish, and that just for the sake of a simple upholstered pad. This won't bother other people, I'm sure, but my elbow was not remotely comfortable on it. Shame. When the mpg tally was deleted from the computer for my test drive, the salesman explained he drove the car enthusiastically with no eye to economy at all. The running total for the car up to then was 50 mpg. On my leisurely jaunt through the lanes with some urban and 60 mph 'A' roads thrown in, I got 73 mpg, but I was driving fairly economically, and the roads were largely clear of traffic, but were damp/wet. I liked it. Apart from the LED headlamps, and the aesthetics of missing front foglamps, then I'd be happy enough with the base model. And I could always cable-tie some foam rubber to my elbow for longer journeys, or just wear a thick coat...

Yes it should. How are you going to get the internal temperature UP to 16degC when it's 8degC outside? The system will run hotter until the internal temp is as per what you've set it to. When it gets there, it'll maintain it, but meanwhile it's trying to warm you up. Mick.

First thing I noticed about the picture, is that the system isn't in auto. It should be in auto when you set a temperature. Mick.

You have it set to 16C and the vent temperature is 25C. That is not enough information. That could be (and at face value sounds) normal depending on the ambient temperature inside the cabin. If the interior is at say 10C then you need hot air to bring it all up to 16C. If it were parked in the sun in summer and the ambient temperature in the cabin was at around 35C then you would then expect the vent temperature to be cold at say 8C.

I don't. There's rarely any need (nor much opportunity) to push the car that hard. Most people on the road barely tickle the accelerator anyway. When I'm in traffic I can potter around without ever entering the PWR range, even if I make a 'lunge' across a roundabout. Sticking to the ICE gives more than enough acceleration to keep up with most people around town. And there's not much point trying to go faster anyway since all it will achieve is arriving at the next set of traffic lights a few seconds earlier. In fact that's true on the open road. I pretty much gave up overtaking years ago when I realised how pointless it was. You're never going to make up more than a couple of minutes if that. You only start to gain useful amounts of time when you're driving for a couple of hours or more and then you'll be on a motorway so you don't need power to overtake anyway if you're paying attention. In any case what's the big deal with making the engine scream? Toyota gave us a certain amount of pedal travel and a certain range of RPM for a reason. If you want power, floor the accelerator. I don't understand this modern desire to accelerate hard while barely moving the pedal. Flooring the accelerator on the 1.8 will generate way more power than a sensible driver should need. I occasionally do that if I'm first away from the last set of lights before the open road and I leave the cars behind like they are standing still.

It has surpassed my expectations too. It's a fabulous ride. Totally agree with your findings as well.

I don’t know how exactly perform the 1.8 or the 2.0 as I am driving previous version with 1.8 that has 136 bhp versus 122 bhp of the latest model but I never straggle on any hills, all you need to push the pedal and the car goes easily, even though sometimes in ideal conditions the car somehow surprised me, not a fast car at all but yes there is some power in reserve and best of all is that you get it easily at the cost of a bit of noise and more fuel spent. Thinking of the new 2.0 vs new 1.8 on long motorway journeys if driving sensibly they might show very similar figures as mpg but if town driving is involved then 1.8 will definitely get better results marginally as it’s lighter car and may use less energy to propel itself. For the estate version of Corolla the 2.0 hybrid might be the real deal as obviously has more pulling power and will suit the car better especially when fully loaded.

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Same as you I have the 1.5 diesel focus and the boss of course has the Audi/Bmw etc. The Tesco lorries on the A47 are not as bad as they used to be since they increased their speed limiter (40 to 50) , used to be a nightmare. thanks for the insight

When I was travelling 30,000 miles a year, my major gripe was that I had a 1.4 or a 1.6ltr, while the big boss who did 16 miles a day had the big powerful engine! If you are doing mainly motorway / duel carriageway travelling, then the 1.8 should be fine, go for it. But if you have to sit behind Tesco lorries on those winding East Anglia roads, and gamble with your life to get past in that tiny stretch of straight road before the next car hammers towards you and the opportunity to get past is lost, you may find comfort in the 2 ltr which will push on effortlessly when you need to. If I was doing the miles, I would go for power over a few mod cons that you may not appreciate much anyway once the novelty wears off. Right now with the pandemic and rock bottom miles, a 1.2 would have been fine for me!😂 That's how I would look at it if faced with a choice of engine. I got by with my 1.6, but only because I had no choice of engine size. I knowing the roads towards Cambridge helped, as I could start accelerating quarter of a mile before a straight bit of road to sling shot past lorries. If the road was not clear, I had to abort and wait for the next straight bit! Happy times...

I keep my car in the garage. What's this 'icing' and 'scraping' you're all talking about? 😄

This morning I raced with my fathers Kia Ceed (2018 diesel) to see who would defrost and de-mist first. Result. After 10 mins my car was completely clear and safe to drive off. My dads Kia took another 5 mins. Scraping the windows was not allowed. All done purely on heat. So there you have it.

As long as the modifications are not visible, and the car still passes the smoke test then it is unlikely to cause an issue at the MOT. I think my greatest concern would be that it will no longer pass the smoke test. Edit: You've probably technically invalidated your insurance however.