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Gerhard, re plastic covers at sides of tail lights, they are easily removed/replaced.

It should always have the correct oil in it, without question. I have seen technicians putting the correct oil in, only for the service receptionist to tick the wrong box on the paperwork, say 5W 30 instead of 0W 20, lazy but it happens, especially with newer members of staff. This causes all manner of problems when the customer questions it and results in the oil change being done again. We have very many of those "Big containers in the corner" these days, we keep 6 or 7 bulk grades in stock

They do fill it from the big container in the corner - containing 0W-20. Nowadays few Toyotas apart from diesels use 5W-30, and later models use even thinner oil such as 0W-16 (Aygo, Corolla, C-HR, Prius, Rav4) or 0W-8 (Yaris).

Not discontinued but all the order slots are taken and with a MY23 due soon and no confirmation of the new line up yet no further orders can be taken for Dynamic, Premier Edition, what we do know is: Premiere edition and Dynamic are gone with no new orders, MY23 Replacement model is TBC Orders from 26th for Icon, Design & Excel will be MY23 models but specs are yet to be confirmed prices will not be protected for specification uplift. Any orders for JBL, City pack, Safety pack or Pano roof will add significant delay As of 27th there are 6000 uncovered UK orders for Cross current orders will be for November production December delivery excl JBL, City pack, Safety pack or Pano roof

The wonderful EU in the face of threats of escalating war from Russia and other problems affecting food supplies and onset of deep recession can apparently find the time to bring in legislation that will effectively ban new PHEV’s from 2025. The car industry is stunned and trying to fight back although have accepted it’s a lost cause. Apparently the EU want manufacturers to sell BEV’s at a rate of 3 or 4 times the number of ICE cars by 2025. Nothing like getting your priorities right. I shake my head in disbelief.

Gerhard, Yes fingers down inside top edge, then run them down the side, cover pops off.

First post on here. Had our 2.0 Excel new just 3 weeks ago and absolutely love it. Wife did want it in Scarlet Flare but not available on excel - think the Decuma Grey does look good though. Definitley glad we went for the 2.0L, enough grunt when needed and still averaging 54+ mpg

I managed to get another photo of Grace this weekend.

If you have the 2-knob headunit, you just need to push the volume knob in (The right-side one on mine) and it should turn off the audio part of the headunit.

Please find attached pics of repair around hinges, As requested by Gerhard, As you can see loads of paint applied, covering what who knows?.

It’s so much easier to worry about these kind of issue than face the really big problems the EU is facing like where they are going to get the energy to charge these cars. It also makes work for the hundreds of thousands employed at great cost to justify their existence.

If you search around you’ll find that the maximum efficiency of the car converting the fuel into useful energy is around 2000 rpm and achieves in the order of 41%, best in class performance.

You're going to return a perfectly working car because it makes noises you're not used to?

Greetings, fellow patient GR86 fans. I wondered if anyone had received the call from Toyota to "confirm next steps" on their order? I got the email below on 19 May, and was intrigued how soon into the promised twelve-week window Toyota start picking the phone up. I'm continuing to watch YouTube videos from universally delighted owners in the US, and there was a small flurry of activity from UK publications last week from the official launch, and it seems nobody has a solitary bad word to say about it. Cheers!

On our previous Hyundai there was a loop of belt material sewn behind the belt which padded against the B pillar instead of the buckle rattling. Simple yet very effective.

Which is what other manufacturers are doing - eg BMW Mini dropping manual gearboxes, etc.

Order a dumper from our place today , you wont see it till half way through 2023, and getting parts in is so inconsistent, we have to slave loads of stuff to get them off the line, then a certain part comes in and it's manic getting them reworked and delivered. Be the same for toyota i suppose ,slim the options down to improve delivery times. got to say my yc excel is only fwd, and its a cracker,

Just because your neighbor said something does not mean it is true - especially if the car has a space to put the spare wheel. Even if that's not the case, as someone already said, treat this as luggage. If you ring your insurer, they will most likely take this opportunity to increase premium. Hence, do nothing. Enjoy your spare wheel.

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Thanks for that 👍 I thought they were made together with the lights like older models , but these actually are covers for the mounting bolts. 👌

Without a blade? shoddy, have a word with the service manager, unacceptable!

Yes, this is what I suspect. That said, the fact that they returned the car to me without a windscreen wiper blade even though the 'safety report' did have a check mark against it, does not instil confidence. What else have they randomly removed? Anyway, I'm diverging. That is a different issue.

Had a great time Friday , collected my Rav 4 black edition 22 spec. I ordered it last September From John Roe Toyota S$%&^(*)Ihorpe Many thanks to Jay ,Iqbal and Ann , had a great deal and they stood on the deal for 9 months ,great service alround could not be happier 😊

Car salesmen are renowned for playing "demo car fuel roulette" Whereby they never want to fuel a demo and will squeeze the last drop out if possible

Hi all.....There are 1000's of retirees like me that welcome an intermediate transition to BEV. At time of purchase I reckoned on a 5/10 year window for PHEV's. Retired means mostly suburban miles with a longish journey now & again. The RAV (46mls) with convenient home charging is the perfect fit in my case. I have no desire to move to a BEV in the foreseeable. Barry Wright, Lancashire.

From what I can see there is no mention of banning PHEV. There is a proposal to update the WLTP testing methodology to better reflect real world emissions from these vehicles. The proposed update of the testing protocol is 2025. Yes, the net effect may well be that manufacturers will have to sell more EVs to weigh up PHEV emissions - just as they have done with pure ICE powered cars.

Yes, unfortunately the powers that be see PHEVs as a distraction to people moving to BEVs, rather than a transition while people get their head around things like range anxiety and charging infrastructure challenges. Personally, I wouldn't have bought a BEV when I got the PHEV, I'd have stuck with a normal petrol or diesel or possibly a normal hybrid for another 5 or so years. I'm probably not getting as much as some others due to typical journey profiles but still have 65% distance and 75% time as EV (this will included some benefit of being HEV at times). That has to be a decent environmental benefit going in the right direction and worth having.

Went for these : https://www.linkedupalarms.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw1tGUBhDXARIsAIJx01kqreZ_KFwBxePMxfQcHKdDLgkXlLrfwi76gtPUdWalJO1gjzoZWUcaAlOyEALw_wcB Easily fitted and seem to do the job ok 👍

Don't bother trying to check how much is in there, on both cars I just top ours up so the screenwash comes to the top of the filler neck.

They all make a pumping noise after starting.

Maybe the centre bore on the Road Hero is slightly larger than the Toyota one (60.1mm) and the spigot ring helps centre the wheel on the hub.

My dealer gave me a big care pack, screen clean, bug remover, upholstery cleaner, leather cleaner, display cleaner , sponge and cloth and a one shot screenwash. In 2 years never got round to using the one shot. I had a 5l concentrate and have yet to get through it. I think they top up at the service too. I still have some of the ultra screen wash left. Upholstery and leather cleaners unused and plenty of the display cleaner and wheel and bug cleaner left too. I will probably get a second one-shot with the next car.

By the very nature of it, this is an impossible question to give a true answer to right now as the truth lies in the future. But we can always pontificate. On the whole I think the reliability is still there. What you see more problems with are ancillary things like in car entertainment etc. not so much mechanical problems (correct me if I'm wrong here). It's not necessarily the electronics that are problematic per se, but the added complexity they allow. Complexity is the enemy of security ...and reliability. Keep things simple and you decrease the risk of things going wrong. To me, the heyday of Toyota reliability were in the first decade of this century. This was a point in time when Toyota really tried to take on European manufacturers not only in terms of quality but in perceived quality. The new corolla launched in 2002 had engineers spending man years on getting the door shut sound just right and 'fridge like'. The cockpit was more traditionally European, Optitron instrument clusters and door handles were brought over from Lexus models. The same happened with the Yaris, Avensis and RAV4. If you look at these cars today, now around 10 and 20 years old, you see that many are still running and many have little to no rust (yes, some Yaris have succumbed). Generally much better than many European contemporary cars. With the broader implementation of HSD in the 2010's, engines and drivelines got more reliable. Diesel's got poor rep mostly due to clogged DPFs and dual mass flywheels. What we are seeing now is Toyota driving some level of excitement in the products, allowing bolder and more interesting designs in newer models. At the heart, Toyota is typically Japanese with a highly conservative culture. It focuses on making iterative changes in order to continuously improve on existing components and processes. This continues to this day. If you open the bonnet or look underneath a new Toyota you will recognise the way they put things together. It has looked the same for many years now and for good reasons; it works. This is not to say everything is perfect or that they don't get things wrong and that there aren't problems with new Toyota's. Still, all things considered, I'm confident about the quality and would feel better spending my hard earned cash on a Toyota/Lexus than just about any other car make.

No need for fancy warning lights when running low - my wife's car has a windscreen wash auto refill system that ensures it stays topped up at all times, it's called a husband that does weekly POL checks!

It'll just make it all the sweeter when you get it!

Thanks. Yes that would help as well. I have already booked in the car with local dealership for Map update so thats sorted now.

I agree, try an MG HS PHEV, that will probably stay below £40k for some time and they are not actually that bad.

Could be a long time for a new car if you keep going around in that circle keeping it just below the £40k, unless VED rules change in the meantime. Probably worth ordering something with a current list price below £35k to be on the safe side

Hear, hear. We shouldn't have to, but I will follow your example.

My question here is; Why do Toyota garages insist on putting 5w30 in the car when it is not the most ideal oil? The manual for the Aygo quite clearly states: "SAE 0W-20 is filled into your Toyota vehicle at manufacturing, and it is the best choice for good fuel economy and good starting in cold weather. If SAE 0W-20 oil is not available, SAE 5W-30 oil may be used. However, it should be replaced with SAE 0W-20 at the next oil change." I just picked up our Aygo from the local Toyota garage yesterday and noticed in the paperwork today that they have put 5w30 in it. I'm assuming this is just a petty cost saving choice on their part as it is probably the most commonly available and cheapest grade of oil. But that is not why I take the car to Toyota for service. <grumble>

I always think that opening a conversation with the word so is a continuation of a previous conversation - maybe I missed that. I’m a mechanic by trade and I’ve worked on both brands. If you’re happy running a Corsa, you run it. I’ll stick with Toyota. The weight of the doors doesn’t effect their functionality and they need slightly more pressure to shut them because they form a good seal. I occasionally give mine a second shut but I would say slamming them is completely over the top. I’m just under six feet tall and I have the steering wheel it the bottom. Pushing it to the top feels very unnatural to me so that’s a personal thing. Mines got tinted windows and they are fine even with sunglasses. You can get various levels of tint so no need to drive dangerously. I also find the ride perfect and I’m 64 next. I’ve come out of a 2020 Lexus NX and I’m very impressed with this Yaris. It’s not quite big enough so I’ve ordered a Yaris Cross. I won’t even consider owning a Vauxhall but that’s me long experience of working on cars, if somebody is happy with theirs that’s fine and I can’t be bothered joining a Vauxhall forum to tell them all the many reasons why I wouldn’t want one. My Yaris is a basic one and I do have a couple of gripes. I wish the lane departure system didn’t default to on and the interior light is rather pathetic. I’ll sort the latter out if it’s as bad in the Cross when it comes.

That new Yaris Hybrid is a proper pocket rocket, great car with even better MPG, my only complaint is the tiny switch gear and dials on the steering wheel/dash

Great cars indeed. For the service pretty much as any other Toyota as been explained. You can do your own service if you are not about warranty. The hybrid battery does not require any specific service procedures except cooling fan filter clean or replace every now and then. Oil changes are important and easy diy job. Here I have shared some information about my servicing experience. Auris and Corolla are very similar cars. 👍

Hi Jay, your car is hybrid right? If yes that means you have an electric brake booster pump in addition to the electronic abs. Pumping noises are typical for Toyota hybrids, also when open the drivers door or when close it and lock the car there are also noises because the system pressures and depressurises itself. When going over road potholes, bumps or cracks and applying the brakes the abs can activate and trigger these strange pump noises, they can come up also as a result of activation of the car anti skid control but if this is the case there will be warning lights on the dash that will flash . If you have yellow and red brake warning lights constantly on the dashboard then do not drive the car and call your nearest dealer. If no lights are present and the brakes work fine you can simply double check your brake fluid level and continue to use your car. Pay attention when you hear these noises and what unusual thing is happening. All Toyota hybrids for some reason when going over rough road and applying brakes if abs activates then next one or two slow downs the brakes are somehow weaker then before and then after they come back to normal. Pumping noises are present from time to time as normal occurrence. 👍

I have the 1.2 Corolla with 16" wheels and have to say the fuel consumption around town isn't great at approx 30mpg . On a trip of 40 miles , mainly A & B roads this improves to 46mpg . Motorway trips using the cruise control with the speed set to just under 70mph up to 55mpg is achievable with the motor barley audible . Would have preferred the 1.8 HSD however this would have cost approx 6K more than the discounted price that I payed for my car ( new ) and just driving 4.5K miles a year now couldn't justify the extra cost .

Now the weather has warmed up a little I am averaging 47/48 mpg in my Auris 1.2T 2018. I tend to drive it with economy in mind and my commute is quite conducive to this.

Just returned from 14 day holiday. Left car on my drive with the AA Solar Panel model AA4185 connected via OBD connector. 12 volt battery at start of hols was 12.4 volts. Checked again on returning before starting the car, and level was 12.1 volts. So, with the aid of the panel it dropped only 0.3 volts in that time. I guess the panel is worth using in that case, and at only £24 is worth the money. I wonder how low the battery needs to go before we start getting key entry probs etc. ?

It’s thought to be in the region of 400 for 2022 but Toyota won’t confirm numbers. There should be another allocation for 2023 but again no idea how many or when. It’s new EU safety regulations which are causing the GR86 to be dropped from the end of 2023.

Hi, I bought a 2017 1.2T Excel about eight months ago, after having the earlier 1.6. I have an 11 mile commute on A roads/side roads, in cold weather with very bad traffic the worst I get is 36 mpg, or about 43mpg with better traffic, now it is warmer these are now about 42/43 mpg & 50-52 mpg respectively. The engine is fantastic, free revving, smooth and very punchy, very close to the performance of a Mazda 3 2.0. It is quiet (better with 16" wheels) and great on motorways and at speed. Very happy indeed so far.

There are specific attachment points as illustrated below - so while I don't have experience of the bars themselves I do know that they attach at fixed points ...