Ten Ninety

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    Jay
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    Prius PHV, Lexus GS300h
  • Toyota Year
    2017
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  1. Ten Ninety

    PHEV

    I'm glad it doesn't have privacy glass - I know it's good at keeping the car cool in the summer but I think it spoils the look of pretty much any car. Give me style over practicality any day of the week - that's why I bought a PHV!
  2. Ten Ninety

    Should I buy a plug in?

    Welcome to the Hypersonic Red club, Mick! I think it's a great colour and I hate red cars. It seems like it's really three colours in one as it can look like anything from dull brick red on a cloudy day to sparkling crimson in bright sunshine to a fabulous orangey pearl in the evening 'golden hour'. Mine also has a fourth colour - dull brown - but that's because I never wash it. From what you described, I think you've made the right choice in going for the Gen4 ordinaire over the plug-in. Enjoy. Both very fair points, but the problem with the Toyota system isn't actually the traffic information - which, as you say, comes from TomTom anyway - or even the maps, which are updated pretty well. The problem is with the routing algorithm, which is beyond hopeless. As a knock on effect, the traffic info also becomes useless because the device will be showing you traffic info for the stupid route it's decided, rather than the one that you'll actually choose to follow!
  3. Ten Ninety

    PHEV

    Indeed. There is no legal redress for buying a car based on false information in a brochure. However, if the manufacturer knowingly continues to publish information after admitting that it is incorrect, I suspect that would put them in breach of UK advertising laws. We'll see whether Toyota are true to their word on making the changes to the PHV brochure. If they are, it will restore some of my faith in them being merely incompetent rather than dishonest.
  4. Ten Ninety

    PHEV

    The Bridgestone Ecopias on my car are no better than the Toyos for noise or grip. From test drives, I thought the Toyos were marginally quieter although that was far from scientific. I don't much care about grip as they're adequate for my driving style, but it would be nice if someone could make a quiet, ultra low rolling-resistance tyre. I suspect those two attributes do not go well together.
  5. Ten Ninety

    PHEV

    When you use a screwdriver to do the adjustment, you get a bit of a 'click' each time you turn that equates to one tooth moving. I counted 15 each side. I would suggest using a screwdriver rather than a spanner - it's dead easy poking it down the 'funnel' each side.
  6. Ten Ninety

    Should I buy a plug in?

    I doubt the PHV would actually save anyone a few hundred quid a year anyway. I strongly suspect the savings in fuel will be offset by steeper depreciation than the Gen4 ordinaire. I love mine, quirks and all, but I'm very strange when it comes to cars and financial sense is never a factor. Brake noise! 😉
  7. Ten Ninety

    MPG issue after service and tyre change.

    In theory, the EU labels should work as you suggest. In practice they simply don't. Two tyres with the same eco rating can deliver wildly different real-world fuel consumption as I have discovered to my cost on more than one occasion. I believe the Primacy HPs on my Gen3 and those on my Auris HSD were actually C-rated. When looking to replace them, I remember seeing Primacy HPs which were E-rated, yet otherwise apparently identical. Whatever I had, they were brilliant tyres as they'd passed 60,000 miles before they needed replacing and in 17" form on my Gen3 delivered better economy than the B-rated 15" tyres/wheels I replaced them with. 40psi would be a good test - I found that to be the optimal pressure for economy on 17s. The oil is definitely going to be dragging the engine though, if it's 5W/30.
  8. Ten Ninety

    PHEV

    I've now done 300-odd miles on 15 clicks up, and I've been flashed twice. Once was as previously described when cresting a hill where the lights were pointing upward, the other was rounding a corner when the nearside beam was briefly elevated and the oncoming driver was one of those idiot quick-draw flashers who must drive round with their finger permanently on the stalk. However, it is also worth noting that I'd get flashed at least twice as many times when commuting in the Lexus every week, and that's as it came from the factory. It's an East Anglia thing - when I drove the Lexus around Yorkshire and the North East in the dark, I never got flashed once. Sadly, Suffolk is chock full of morons who think the national speed limit is 35 and have to slow down to 20mph every time they see an oncoming car because they stare straight into its lights...
  9. Ten Ninety

    Should I buy a plug in?

    This is potentially a key selling point of this car - depending on the journey it might even be better than the Gen4 because the PHV can use the larger EV battery to store more energy from re-gen. This is offset by the extra weight, though. As an example, on a nice warm day in September, starting with an empty EV battery, I got 92mpg over my 33-mile journey home. My best figure in a Gen3 in similar conditions on that same journey was about 80mpg. Yes, it's a hybrid-friendly route and yes, I'm a committed hypermiler, but generally I think you could expect very similar performance to a Gen4 ordinaire on 15" wheels. Not a cat in hell's chance. It's ridiculously shallow. There's mere inches between the rollover cover and the boot floor - you'd struggle to get suitcases in at all. It is hilariously bad, in fact, and is quite possibly the reason why so few people have bought one. Not an issue for me as it's a commuter car, but I couldn't live with it as my only vehicle. Read Geoff's PHEV thread - I think we cover most of the PHV's quirks and foibles there! My initial thoughts on some positives and negatives can also be found here.
  10. Ten Ninety

    MPG issue after service and tyre change.

    5W on the receipt suggests they have used a cheaper 5W/30 oil rather than the recommended 0W/20. 5W/30 is still listed as acceptable in the manual, so they can get away with it, but it will make a noticeable difference to economy. That said, the new tyres may also be having an impact. You can ignore the EU ratings as they are a crock of s**t. The OEM Michelin Primacys are actually a very economical tyre.
  11. Ten Ninety

    PHEV

    I think it might be that the display only changes to show a single temperature once the cabin has reached that desired temperature. I noticed that mine went to 'single' view the other day, when it was notably warmer outside. Usually it sticks with both temperatures being displayed. This is actually something I would have said Toyota were really good at! My Auris, Gen3 and PHV have all been pretty much spot-on in their operation, if left on max sensitivity. On very rare occasions when they decide to go mental and run faster than necessary, turning the collar to reduce the sensitivity actually seems to provide a useful fix without switching them off completely. This is in complete contrast to the system on my GS which also has a collar but even on max sensitivity will regularly allow the screen to become completely obscured before offering even a single desultory sweep. Once it's finally got going, it doesn't like stopping either, and will routinely continue squeaking across a bone-dry screen long after the rain has stopped. Worse, there is a little button on the stalk to push to enable or disable automatic wiping (as well as the stalk position) but instead of this switching to manual intermittent mode it just turns the wipers off! You need to be in Park, and hold it down for 3 seconds, to activate intermittent mode. Lexusism could be similarly defined to Toyotaism I think, with a smigeon of extra poshness and an extra dose of ergonomic insanity! As for the rear screen, I actually prefer that without a wiper as it looks so much better. Besides, I find a covering of rain and dirt helpfully provides a little diffusion of a following car's Germanic headlights.
  12. Ten Ninety

    PHV Adaptive High Beam - Do Yours Work Like They Should?

    By means of an update, I have now had confirmation from Toyota UK that the Auto High Beams do not operate in the way one would expect from the brochure. My car is therefore definitely not faulty. The main beams engage at 37mph and disengage at 25mph. Below those speeds, only dipped beams will work. That is exactly what my car does, accounting for speedo error. The 'low speed mode' in the brochure doesn't exist - it's just referring to dipped beams! The cornering function ONLY applies to the high beams, not dipped. I have to say, I'm still not convinced mine does any corner illumination at all, but then the corners I would actually find this useful on are all taken below 37mph, so I may just not have noticed. I can't imagine who thought either of the above setups was acceptable, but that is definitely how they are 'supposed' to work. I have also discovered that there is a new manual (not brochure) which more accurately describes the AHB operation. However, to download this manual from the Toyota website, you have to tell the website that your car was manufactured after January 2018, even if it wasn't! I am still none the wiser about the 'high speed' function, as I have yet to find an unlit road with no oncoming traffic where I would safely be able to reach 75mph. However, it was the low-speed operation which I took issue with, and thanks to PhilT's post about adjusting the headlight units upwards this is actually no longer a concern. I hadn't realised just how bad the dipped beams were until I adjusted them, and they can now be used safely on unlit roads up to ~45-50mph without needing main beam at all and without annoying other drivers.
  13. Ten Ninety

    PHEV

    Just to update on the headlights - at fifteen clicks higher they are now brilliant (literally) on dipped beam. The difference it's made is like - groan - night and day. I can now happily cruise at ~50mph on an unlit road without having to trouble main beam at all, whereas before it was a struggle to reach 30 safely. I might even go back to using AHB now, as it will matter a lot less that main beam doesn't come on until 40mph! In 66 miles of darkness, with plenty of traffic around, I got flashed just once by an oncoming car. That was when I was coming over a hill and they assumed I hadn't dipped. Other than that, the adjusted beams didn't seem to cause anyone else any bother, or at least not enough for them to 'complain' with a flash. I'll continue to monitor this week but right now, it's looking very good. Thanks again, Phil!
  14. Ten Ninety

    PHV Battery Range

    It was actually the other way round for me. My very first charge showed a range of 31 miles but I actually eked out 32. Over a couple of weeks of adjusting my driving to maximise range (which in EV mode simply means going slower) the indicated range crept up and up each day but my actual distance travelled didn't go up by the same amount, putting it in optimistic territory. Then when I started using the heating, my actual distance plummeted whilst the indicated range has only gradually slipped back down. I did that to start with, but then discovered that it only works if the engine has already been fully warmed up by previous running in HV mode (and hasn't subsequently cooled). If the ICE is cold, switching to HV puts it into its initial warm-up cycle, during which the ICE runs but the car is actually propelled entirely by the battery. Depending on the length of the hill, and assuming EV mode will be reinstated at the top, I found I could end up simply wasting petrol on warming the engine whilst still depleting the battery which continued to power the car up the incline! When I'm already running in HV mode after the EV battery's empty, I've actually been experimenting with doing the complete opposite - if I manage to 'earn' a bit of extra EV range from re-gen then I'll 'spend' that to go up a hill, saving me the heavy-throttle petrol usage of getting up there. I'm not sure if this actually improves mpg in reality but it seems to yield some benefit in journey-average mpg as indicated on the MFD.
  15. Ten Ninety

    PHV Battery Range

    Back in September mine had climbed to showing 40 miles (with the heating and a/c off). That was when I was driving with no heating or a/c. That was optimistic, as most days I would see 30-34 miles of actual range. I think the best I ever actually got was 36 miles. Now that I'm using the heating and a/c, it has dropped back down and settled around 31 miles (with heating and A/C on). It is, however, still hopelessly optimistic as my actual range is now 20-25 miles. Cold weather, wet roads and using the heating are not conducive to EV driving!