Ten Ninety

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    Jay
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    Prius PHV, Lexus GS300h
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  1. Something similar used to happen with my Gen3 and Auris HSD. Both would occasionally fire up the engine for no apparent reason on the same stretch of road. It wasn't every journey by a long way, but it happened enough times for me to notice how weird it was that both cars did it at pretty much exactly the same point on the road. I decided it was probably something to do with the battery conditioning that takes place periodically, as it had no apparent relationship to heater settings or temperature. My PHEV hasn't done it yet, but I'm sure it will decide to surprise me at some point. HSD moves in mysterious ways!
  2. Completed. As an aside, it would be nice to see some recognition in these kinds of surveys that 'the environment' isn't just about CO2 emissions. For some of us, local pollution is an equally important concern.
  3. Geoff, the indicated charge capacity is highly variable. Worst I've seen is an indicated 27 miles and it seems to vary around 27-29 in winter (heating ON) or 33-34 (heating OFF). Back in September it had crept up to showing 40+ (heating OFF). That doesn't tell the whole story, though. Actual range is affected by the cold and the use of the heater much more than the fantasy indicator, which remains hopelessly optimistic for me at all times. On my best day with nice warm temps AM and PM, I eked out 36 miles on EV (32 on the way in, 4 on the way back). That was on an indicated range of around 41, I think, with the heating off all the time. The worst I've seen in the cold is a paltry 17 miles, from an indicated range of 27 with heating on all the time. The additional time then spent in HV mode is what's murdering my overall MPG. All comparisons are using the same journey and same driving style. The only major differences are the weather and use of heating.
  4. The PHV magnifies the winter/summer difference in miles-per-gallon to a mind-boggling degree on my commute. I do around 64 miles in total. Because of the massive impact cold weather has on EV range, the difference between my 'winter worst' and 'summer best' commutes currently sits at around 80mpg!
  5. My PHV is more prone to misting than any other car I've owned, even with A/C on. I don't actually believe the A/C is dehumidifying most of the time - it certainly isn't when it's pre-heating. This may be because I'm always in Eco mode, which does limit the A/C operation. Have you tried running in Normal mode? I've never bothered to test this myself - I pushed the button once when I first got the car just to see the pretty dash colours, then left it in Eco ever since. It may be worth trying if the misting is bothering you. I should also say that I run with recirc on all the time (other than when the damn thing switches itself to outside air) which isn't conducive to demisting. However, whilst I would reasonably expect the rear windows to mist up on recirc, I find the PHV cannot even keep the windscreen clear if the temperature dips below freezing unless I switch to breathing filthy outside air. Every other Toyota/Lexus I've owned has managed this, so I presume the A/C is tuned to be more aggressively 'eco' in the PHV.
  6. I only use a 3-pin charger so I don't know about lights on the Chargemaster unit. On my car, when the plug is inserted, the green light on the car port always flashes when charging is scheduled for later on. It has never failed to charge on the schedule, apart from when I forget to physically plug it in! The blue lights are just the state of charge indicators - I think they'll come on when you approach the car with the key even if it's not plugged in.
  7. My PHV rattles and buzzes now. It didn't when I got it in September. It's not quite as bad as my Gen3 (which rattled just as much when it was on 15s as it did when it was on 17s) and it doesn't really bother me. It may even be something that I've put in one of the storage boxes - I'm just too lazy to empty everything to find out. I also suspect that I am at least partially responsible as I regularly play bass-heavy tracks at excessive volume on the JBL stereo. If the bass is rattling my fillings, it's probably rattling the dash fixings loose as well!
  8. Good. I'd give mine 10/10 and 100% for reliability too. It is impossible to overstate the feelgood factor of driving a truly reliable vehicle. Sadly, this never seems to feature in magazine reviews, where the glitz and glamour of a damped cupholder or a fake stitched-leather dash top are considered more relevant to judging a car's 'build quality' than whether it will actually run for a year without anything breaking.
  9. Thanks for posting. Those images confirm that the facelift is a step backward in design. However, given the apparent popularity of the horrifically bland (and terrible) Hyundai Ioniq, Toyota probably think they'll sell a few more by getting rid of all the interesting angles. I hope this strategy fails, so the Gen5 can go back to looking properly challenging again! As an aside, that article seems to be another illustration of the vast chasm between the motoring press - and its chronic obsession with driving rapidly for 'fun' - and what buyers are really interested in. Who in the world, outside a tiny group of journos with nothing better to do, actually cares whether you can entertain yourself by drifting a Prius on snow?
  10. The disadvantage is purely aesthetic. The Gen3 in particular takes on a bit of a shopping trolley look with tiddly little wheels. However, the Gen4 seems to wear them rather better and the very latest (2018 on) 15" wheel covers with the extended black strakes do a very good job of disguising their tiny size, as do the two-tone wheels on the PHV. For some reason, this country has an obsession with cars that look 'sporty' and people are prepared to put up with all the disadvantages of large wheels just to make their car look 'better'. An annoying side effect of pandering to this market is the difficulty of buying a luxury or top-spec car that doesn't have stupid big wheels on it. My Lexus GS would be considerably better to drive on 16" wheels as opposed to the compulsory 18s fitted. Credit to Toyota for offering the 15" option on the Excel version of the Gen4.
  11. Toyota's electronics manage the battery charging to maximise life. When we see it as 'full' it really isn't. Similarly, it is never allowed to get near being properly 'empty' even when the battery graphic says it is. There is therefore no need to do any battery 'management' yourself, nor any need to worry about charging it fully and driving til it is empty. I'm surprised to hear Tesla doesn't have a similar system in place. That said, even with automatic management, the PHV battery will degrade slowly over time. I think there's something in the manual which suggests this is likely to manifest as reduced range, but not reduced performance. However, at what point any such range reduction will become noticeable above the daily impact on range of temperature and road conditions, is uncertain. The cars are all too new to have any meaningful data on this.
  12. In days gone by, I'd have put new tyres on the rear, but that was when I drove more enthusiastically and ran a greater risk of the car losing stability on a wet corner. These days I'd put them on the front. I'd rather have better traction pulling out on a wet roundabout and better aquaplaning resistance on the steering wheels. If the rears are really bad enough to cause a loss of stability under braking - even when we have ABS and stability control to keep the car in line - then I'd say those tyres need changing as well!
  13. The blue light is a bit pointless in the way that it operates. I suppose it's done that way because the lights don't actually 'dip' at all, but it would be more reassuring if it changed when the shuttering activated. After adjusting the beams up, I don't use AHB at all any more. In fact, I rarely bother with manual main beam other than for the occasional joy of lighting up something that's half a mile away.
  14. If you want to save money, just keep the Auris. With such low mileages, I can't see how it could ever make financial sense to change the car.
  15. I would agree with all of that. However, there's a couple of things worth bearing in mind: Second-hand (as per the OP) the cost equation becomes rather more favourable for the PHV because its initial depreciation is so steep. After 18 months, they can actually be had for the same money as a comparable Gen4 ordinaire on 15s. At the time I bought it, mine was cheaper than any of the 15" ordinaires on sale. That still doesn't make a totally convincing financial argument, as the PHV depreciation curve is likely to remain steeper, but it's nowhere near as negative as the from-new comparison. For my mileage and journeys, I'd estimate my fuel savings as around £500 a year compared to a standard Gen4. When I can get a charger installed at work, that will add a few hundred quid more to the saving. Of course, that's just my use case, but I'm happy with those numbers. Regarding 'saving the planet' you're absolutely right about resource usage but for me, despite an appalling lack of concern shown by government and media until very recently, local pollution is as important to address as long-term climate change or over-consumption. The PHV lets me drive into town and back without emitting anything from the tailpipe. On my commute, I can ensure it emits nothing in any of the built-up areas I pass through. I like that. A standard Prius is good in this respect compared to most other cars, but it can't come close to the PHV. All that said, I actually bought mine over a Gen4 ordinaire primarily because the headlights looks cool and it has a carbon-fibre tailgate. Which just goes to show that there's more to car buying than logic and sense!