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  1. I get the same sort of shock with my Avensis Spirit when getting out. I have often wondered if the fitted leather seats has some bearing on the problem. I have found it is mostly occurs when wearing man fibres coat and trousers and not cotton or wool. Also, the problem does'nt seem to happen when the ground is wet. Strangely, the last car that this happened to me was many, many years ago, and if I remember, anti-static strips did'nt work for me then. This problem seems to be more noticeable with the recent hot and dry weather.
  2. The consumption for the 2.0L petrol Avensis is, I think, quite poor. My '53 Plate Avensis t-Spirit gives me around 26 mpg for short journeys and around town. On the open road and long motorway trips, and driving with reasonable "go", I can get up to 36 or 38 mpg. These figures are obtained from the built in computer and after 7,500 miles covered since new, I have no reason to doubt their accuracy. They just seem about right. My previous car, a 170bhp 2.5L V6 Vectra, got only 1 or 2 mpg less for short journeys, but 30 or 32 mpg for long trips even using its excellent performance. I think that the fairly poor consumption figures of the petrol Avensis is due, in some small measure, to the VTechnology of its engine that requires the maximum use of revs to get any sort of performance out of it. This would, I believe, be improved by giving the engine a turbo like some of the rival marques that give much better low down pull for overtaking without significantly affecting the petrol consumption. The diesel Avensis models achieve some of these improvements (but I personally still prefer a petrol based car).
  3. My T-Spirit 2.0L petrol Avensis is quite similar in performance. The VTec kicks in at around 3,000 rpm and gives a boost to the car. I find that some cars with smaller engines seem to be faster of the mark, but if you let the revs build up (5,000 rpm and over), the situation is reversed. The Avensis is quite capable of being taken to the "Red Line" at over 6,000 rpm. This characteristic performance is typical of all cars with VTec type petrol engines, not just Toyota. I think that the Avensis would be so much better all round with a Turbo like, for example, the Saab 9-3 or 9-5 to give that "low down" boost. I do find, however, that the car's performance is seem to be improving since I took it past the 7,000 miles mark.
  4. I have just had the brake squeal on my T-Spirit fixed at Toyota in Warrigton, Cheshire by changing the front brake pads. The crucial point as to whether any work can be done under warranty is the phrase "...fair wear and tear". In my case, with only 6k miles on the clock, there would be no problem. Nevertheless, any decisions on warranty work should be according to the provisions of Toya GB Warrany Agreement and not interpreted differently depending on the Dealer. As mentioned, take your case to Toyota GB Customer Support regarding the brake problem. However, the cost of servicing does vary wildly depending where you live and there does'nt seem to be anything you can do about that.
  5. My T-Spirit with just 6k miles on the clock had brake squeal at low speed and I have just had it into my local Toyota Agency. They said it was'nt the brake shims and they just put new pads on the front brakes under warranty.
  6. I found that as well when I changed to a '53 Avensis from a Vectra. You do get use to it, although it can be quite tiring in a traffic jam or slow moving traffic. I think that the throttle pedal is quite heavy too.
  7. Here is a personal review of 12 months ownership from new, of the Avensis T-Spirit 2.0 L petrol manual hatchback. Pros. Build quality excellent, no loose knobs or broken switches yet. Whilst I initially thought it's looks were a little staid, I think it has now “grown on me”. Mine is in blue metallic that looks great when it has just been valeted. I prefer it to the Vectra, Mondeo or Honda. Road holding and handling excellent with the 215/45 17” alloys. Brakes and gearbox fine, although clutch and throttle pedals are a bit “heavy”. Useful built-ins like Cruise Control (not used much), Traction Control and Vehicle Stability Control. Extras like rain sensitive wipers and parking wing mirrors are a bonus. Leather electric seats are nice. Hatchback boot is enormous. Plenty of storage pockets. Rear space very good. Dual Climate Control very efficient. Optitron instrument panel superb in all light conditions. Safety features outstanding. The TNS200 “step-by-step” Sat. Nav. is quite useful although it is a bit “old fashioned” compared to the latest DVD full visual models. Cons. High level of road noise on most surfaces. After 12 months use, I still haven’t got used to it. The lack of low down pull of the 2 .0L engine (important when overtaking). It only starts to perform at around 3,500 r.p.m, although to be fair it sounds smooth and willing enough up to over 5,000 r.p.m. I suppose this is what one can expect from a V-Tec based engine. Still the overall performance seems a little disappointing from a 150 bhp engine. What the petrol engined Avensis needs is a Turbo engine like the Saab 9-3 or Vectra! The fuel consumption is not particularly good. Based purely on the built-in computer, I get around 24 to 26 mpg on short town journeys (not much better than my previous 2.5 L V6 Vectra!) and 32 to 34 on long or motorway trips. Turning off the air con. does not seem to make much difference to the figures. Small niggles. On occasion, the drivers side wing mirror will not move in the up or down direction (but is ok moving from side to side). Sometimes, if the hatchback boot is not shut firmly, the boot light stays on and a door open warning light appears on the instrument panel. The front brakes squeal at very low speeds. I think that is a known problem and can be fixed under warranty.
  8. My '53 T-Spirit has I think, 10 speakers and yet I find that the treble or high frequency response is somewhat lacking especially on Radio 4 where the speech sound dull and "chesty"even on Treble setting at 5 max.m. I suppose that could be attributed, partly, to my "advanced" age!
  9. Unlike some other cars like the Saab 9-3 and my previous Vectra, on the post '03 Avensis, the average mpg indicated by the computer cannot be reset by pressing the button for more than a couple of seconds but, as mentioned, automatically resets to zero when the tank is refilled. The distance travelled, for example, automaticaly resets to zero after the engine is stopped and the ignition is turned off although, strangely, it can be reset to zero at any time. I suppose you can get around this by using the A and B trip meters. I dont understand the logic for this as you can't readily check the average mpg for individual journeys using the built in computer.
  10. I have had 15 cars in over 40 years of driving and I have never had a white car yet. A base white colour, in my opinion, is the most boring choice and there are just too many silver/grey cars around. My own T-Spirit is in a very nice metallic Cobalt Blue. My other choices would be red (which is always popular in any car) or green, again in metallic finish.
  11. My '53 T-Spirit is Cobolt Blue in metallic finish. My favourite colour is usually red, but I think this blue is very suitable for this car, and it looks brilliant, especially when I've just had it cleaned and polished!
  12. I have a '53 T-Spirit Avensis with a 2.0 ltr petrol engine and like all the V-Tec or VVT engines, there is not much real performance unless you give them plenty of revs. It also means that, unlike a diesel, there is very little torque low down. What the Avensis range needs is a 2.0 or 2.2 ltr Turbo engine like those in the Vectra or the Mondeo to improve that low down pull or overtaking ability. My previous car was a Vectra with a V6 engine and the pull and performance on that car was phenominal. A point to bear in mind is that for real life situations on the road, it is often the comparative performance of other cars that dictate how your own car seems to drive. When you think that not that many years ago, a car with an 150 h.p engine would have been quite a performance vehicle. Provide that you keep the revs. up in each gear, the 2.0 ltr Avensis is quite capable of holding its own in todays traffic conditions. Dont forget, there are lots of cars out there with much smaller engines!
  13. I have a '53 plate Avensis T-Spirit with Dunlop 17 " tyres and have commented on this Forum many times concerning the intrusive road noise, not just at motorway speeds, but at anything over 10 miles per hour. I even wrote to Toyota GB describing the problem and asking if any modifications were in the pipeline to alleviate this, but they said there were'nt and just pointed out a reference in the manual to "some wind noise would be experienced when 17" tyres were fitted". It was even intimated that the road noise was only apparent because of the quiet engine and low wind noise! Turning the radio up very loud, in my opinion, is no answer to the problem. I have tried an Avensis with 16" tyres and with different makes and, in my opinion, there is very little difference in the road noise compared to my Dunlop 17" low profiles. Altering tyre pressures only affects the straight line performance. I have been driving for over 40 years and have never experienced this problem with any of my previous cars, although I know that other modern cars, e.g Saab 9-3, also exhibit high road noise levels, It is not likely that the many differing road surfaces in the UK are going to be made quieter in the short term, although advances are being made in tyre design, and so I think it is up to manufacturers like Toyota to solve this problem by modifying the car's supension systems. I have had the Avensis for 9 months now, but have still not got used to the road noise, especially at motorway speeds or on poor surfaces. It is a pity, because the new Avensis is otherwise a well built and classy car.
  14. I do find that the leather seats on my '53 T-Spirit do feel cold these mornings without seat heating, but maybe that just a sign of me getting on a bit! It is true that they tend to be colder than normal fabric seats. However, it is'nt something that should put you off from getting a T-Spirit Avensis, as leather will make all the difference in the quality and looks of the interior. An additional bonus is that both driver and passenger seats are electrically adjustable. As a top-of the range model and at a list price of over £20k, you should expect leather seats as standard.
  15. I do miss the seat heaters I had on my previous Vauxha Vectra. The leather seats on my T-Spirit Avensis feel really cold in the mornings when the car has been left outside overnight, even at the relatively modest low temperatures we are experiencing (around zero degrees) in the UK at the moment. I suppose we motorists have got use to travel in "luxury" in modern cars. My first car I bought in the 1960's was not even fitted with an interior heater. I still think that at nearly £21k (list price Avensis T-Spirit), Toyota should fit seat heaters to, at least, its top of the range models for all countries.
  16. The TNS200 CD based Sat. Nav. system is a "step-by-step" system and was fitted to the first of the new shape Avensis on the T3-S, T4 and Spirit models. The database disk on the CD models is, as far as I know, limited to a single country, e.g United Kingdom. To get other countries, you have to purchase additional discs. (around £120 from Toyota G.B). I think software updates for the CD Sat. Nav system are still available from Toyota. The CD Drive is fitted beneath the front passengers seat. The later models were fitted with a full screen DVD based system. Because of the greater storage capacitiy of DVD's, it is possible to have many countries on one DVD disk.
  17. See this link VTEC and VVT-i Engines for further info on the VVT-i engines
  18. The performance and acceleration of my '53 plate 2.0L petrol T-Spirit Avensis is, like all VVT-i engines, directly related to applying large doses of revs. The best performance is obtained when the engine is up in the 3,000 rpm range and above, and there is very little torque low down, especially in 2nd gear. This does result in a fair bit of engine noise when accelerating hard, although a decent performance can be ultimately acheived. I think the Avensis really needs a Turbo engine like those fitted to the Vectra, Mondeo, Saab etc. The road noise, especially on the 17inch low profile tyres, has been well documented. However, the ride is good, and with the fitted low profiles, the handling is exceptional.
  19. I dont know if anyone has done this work, but I would be very interested to hear from other Forum members if they have. I have commented at some length on this Forum (and written to Toyota GB) about the perceived high road noise level on the Avensis, especially those fitted with the 17" low profile tyres. I made the suggestion that some form of additional internal soundproofing could be made available to aleviate the problem, but I was not aware that such kits actually existed on the Toyota parts list. I wonder if this kit is available in the U.K
  20. My '53 plate T-Spirit will drop its engine speed from around 800 rpm to about 600 or 700 rpm when idling. I believe that it is caused by the load exerted on the engine as the air con. cuts in and out. When the air con. is switched to manual, the erratic idling is removed.
  21. My '53 T-Spirit is fitted with the CD based TNS200 Sat. Nav. system and, like yours, is fitted underneath the front passenger seat. I would have thought that it would invove considerable work and expense to upgrade to a full colour Sat. Nav. as fitted to later models. It would probably be cheaper to buy one of the new TomTom Go or similar portable models.
  22. My new Avensis 2.0L petrol is fitted with the 17 inch Low Profile tyres, and I have them at about 2.4 bar pressure. The car is fitted, as standard, with hydraulic power steering. In my experience, running them at anything between 2.3 (approx 34 psi) and 2.5 bar (approx. 37 psi) does'nt seem to make a great difference in the car's on the road balance and steering at speed. Any increase beyond those figures will only make harder what is already quite a firm ride. What I did find, when I changed my previous Vectra to this Avensis, was that the steering was a lot lighter and much more responsive and accurate in the Toyota and so am not surprised that the handling appears quite lively at speed. On the Vectra, it was very stable on motorways, but very heavy at low speeds. I much prefer both the handling and the steering ability of the Avensis. My son had an Audi and that had even lighter steering (you could do a 3 point turn with one hand on the steering wheel), but on the motorway you had to continually adjust for every sidewind. Now that I have got use to the different handling characteristic of the Avensis, I am happy with it.
  23. I also have a T-Spirit with the 2.0 Litre petrol engine and it has only done 1,700 miles so far. One thing I have noticed is that the throttle pedal is very "heavy" to operate and so can give the impression that it takes a lot of effort to get any performance out of the car. I have not noticed any undue lag in throttle response, and I think that in reality, the Avensis in 2.0 Litre petrol guise seems to have a reasonable, but not outstanding, performance. The VVT-i engine gives a steady torque at most engine revs, but does not have the mid range surge that you get with the similar sized Turbo engines fitted to cars such as the Vectra, the Mondeo or the Saab 9-3 (my sons car). Basically, the Avensis petrol engines all rely on revs for achieving any sort of performance, unlike the above cars. (Note that the Rev Counter is as large as the Speedo, and almost dominates the dashboard!) My previous car, incidently, was a 2.5Lt V6 Vectra that did not not have the handling or quality of the Avensis, but had phenomenal performance.
  24. 65special

    New Avensis

    I have been driving for over 40 years and had many cars, and the Avensis is the first car that road noise has been an issue with me. My T-Spirit has 215/45 17" Dunlop 2000a's and to me, the road noise is extremely intrusive on almost every surface, especially on roads that are like concrete with very little tar/asphalt covering. The only surface where the noise was satisfactory was on a new ASDA Superstore car park where the surface had just been relaid. It also highlighted to me just how quiet the egine and transmission is. My limited experience is that changing tyres will have very little effect on perceived road noise and altering the tyre pressures will only really alter straight line steering and performance of the car at high speeds. This problem is not unique to the Avensis. More and more cars are now been manufactured fitted with larger tyres with lower profiles. Where 16" and even 17" tyres would have been the province of large or powerfull luxury cars, these low profile large tyres are now common on many middle range cars. Often, the choice of large tyres is made on the basis of prestige or for cosmetic reasons rather than overall performance. The Avensis is a good example where even in 2.0L guise, the use of 17" low profile tyres is not realy vital, given its fairly modest engine output. When fitted to a performance car, an owner will readily accept the much harder ride and noise levels because of the much better handing that low profiles provide. It is obvious to me, that if manufacturers like Toyota continue to use these tyres on their larger models, then they really must pay more attention to improving the suspension or adding more insulation, since it does not appear that that the general qualty of British roads is ever going to get any better.
  25. I could'nt agree more with you about the misleading claims regarding quietness made on that advert for the Avensis on TV!
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