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  1. PeteB

    2012 Plug in deteriorating battery

    If you car is serviced at a dealer you get the Hybrid Health Check, each of which extends your HV battery warranty by 1 year to a maximum of 12 years. If you don't have dealer services ton can have the HHC for about £45. Might be worth considering.
  2. PeteB

    Gen 2 CAT stolen

    Don't they take them for precious metals rather than just the parts value?
  3. PeteB

    2012 Plug in deteriorating battery

    Bear in mind regard;less of other factors, the range will decrease in colder weather and should improve again in warm,er weather. So when comparing EV range, you need to compare with range figures produced (or estimated) at similar temperatures. I've spoken to a few (first generation) PiP owners who said they got 12 ish in the summer and 8-9 on cold winter days even when their cars were fairly new.
  4. PeteB

    2019 Rav4 Dynamic 4wd

    Not off hand, I'm considering an Excel AWD with the 360° Panoramic Camera - interesting, your choice of the Dynamic, which has as far as I can see some styling differences but lacks some equipment I particularly want, including: Memory function on driver seat Headlight cleaners Front wiper de-icer Washer fluid level warning I haven't managed to get a test drive, have you? I have a few personal concerns to address when I get a test drive, some of which may not worry others if they're not used to the Prius: after 7 years and almost 100,000 miles with a Head Up Display, I'm really concerned about losing this - when I drive cars without it I really miss it also after a similar period of large, bold central displays of speed and other info, the RAV4 dash is quite small and one has to focus closer and down through the steering wheel occasionally find the Prius auto parking system useful, RAV4 doesn't have this a number of reviewers on YouTube have commented about the road and wind noise level at higher speeds - I'll be taking my noise meter along to reinforce any opinion I form while driving That said, there are a lot of things that interest me not available on the Prius, including: Electric seat with memory Power boot Electronic parking brake with Hold Rear ventilation Reclining rear seats Lockable glove box Headlight cleaners Heated steering wheel Wiper de-icer Auto door locking
  5. PeteB

    Prius PHEV Gen 3 vs PHEV Gen 4 vs Gen 4 ?

    Yes, I felt that the Gen 3 was easier (according to the brochure Gen 3 ground clearance was 5.3" and Gen 4 5.1" - but of course that's not the whole story). I think the general setup in the Gen 3 will feel very familiar (plus you get more space in the front armrest box) The Auris TS will beat the Gen 4 Prius on rear headroom, not so sure about headroom - I could sit in the back of my Gen 3 ok but not the Gen 4. (both versions of the Prius beat the TS on rear legroom though) The boot is similar on the Gen 3 & 4 Prius - although in the latter the cars with a spare wheel will have slightly less than those without, and the Gen 4 lacks the underfloor space then Gen 3 had.
  6. PeteB

    New 2019 RAV4 HSD fuel economy ?

    If it's anything like the Gen 4 Prius that was technically available from March 2016, I ordered mine in February and got it mid June.
  7. PeteB

    Prius an oil burner????

    Both 1.5 and 1.8 Prius engines have been known to start using a little oil after 100,000 miles but I've never before heard of anything as severe as the one Joe described. Only one of the 4 Prius I've owned (plus 3 company cars) passed 100k, and it started to gradually use a little between services. By the time I sold it with 163k on the clock it went from Max to Min on the dipstick in about 7,000 miles, and adding 1 Litre was more than enough to keep it above Min until the next service. I've heard about a number of cars that have had similar (a little better to a little worse) loss at these mileages btu that's all. Certainly, I've never before heard of oil consumption that would raise eyebrows, never mind require surgery. Indeed, in the 1970s and 80s it was far from uncommon to have to top up new cars between services (which were often at 5/6,000 mile intervals then) in their first year!
  8. PeteB

    2018 Hybrid & 2017 Hybrid: driving & economy

    It might be different for the Yaris, but on other Toyota models that I'm familiar with (particularity all four generations of the Prius) the so-called larger wheels actually end up having an almost identical diameter and circumference at the outer edge of the tyre. This is because the wheel size relates to the rim (Prius come in 15" and 17" options), but the tyres for the 17" rims are lower profile, and if you see them side by side you'll see cars with 17" wheels have about half as much rubber between the rim and road as the 15". This is why the larger rims tend to give a poorer ride, and can suffer damage when hitting a particularity nasty pothole when the 15" might not. The reason the cars with 'bigger' wheels tend to have worse mpg and CO2 figures is that they are wider, which means they produce more drag - quite a lot more in the case of the current Prius where the drag factor goes from CD 0.24 for 15" wheeled cars to 0.26 for those with 17" rims - a bigger difference than you might guess from the small number change. That also explains why cars with the bigger rims often have poorer turning circles and make more road noise, not to mention be considerably more expensive to replace.
  9. PeteB

    Pre collision warning

    Difficult to be sure. I thought the C-HR Excel pretty much mirrored the Gen 4 Prius Excel for key equipment and safe, and as mine's an original spec from when the Gen 4 was launched if anything I'd have expected your car to be even more up-to-date. Looking at the new car section of the Toyota web site isn't conclusive, and if your manual is anything like mine it will be littered with caveats like "if equipped". Certainly the 2017 C-HR I drove a couple of years ago seemed to have everything my car has but in a different body (plus it had a nice electronic parking brake with hold feature instead of my foot operated parking brake).
  10. A couple of observations: the Prius/Prius+ are pure Hybrids, with no option to plug them in. All the energy in the HV battery comes from decelerating, braking and charge from the engine while it's running. Realistically, if you arrive home with a fairly full traction battery (around 75% on the gauge), you'd be lucky to do 1¼ miles on EV. If the last few miles are fairly level town speed, you'd more likely finish with nearer 25% on the gauge, in which case EV mode won't even be selectable. Also, if the car goes above 24 mph while cold, the engine will start and you won't be able to select EV mode again until it's completed the warm-up cycle. The latest Prius has very low seats (a price for the class leading aerodynamic drag figure) and your elderly passengers may well find getting in and out a challenge. When I bought my Prius I figured on keeping it for the rest of my driving days, but hip problems (that may or may not have been accelerated by this car) mean I'm now looking at alternatives (latest RAV4 Hybrid with 4WD is is my sights at the moment). The Prius Plus will fare better with your requirements but as others have said, bike racks will hit the efficiency, but they will on any type for car. The Toyota Hybrids are generally very reliable and can clock up some stellar mileages (one of mine was still going strong after 9 years and 163,000 miles) and most (but not all) people who have them love their driving characteristics. The Plug-in Prius probably won't fit the bill - the original and current models will do around 10 and 28 miles on electric respectively, but lose a fair bit of boot space (and lose the spare wheel), plus the current one only has 4 seats as well as being low to the ground.
  11. PeteB

    Gen2 to Gen4

    I think you'll find the Gen 4 Prius spec builder only allowed the choice of a spare wheel on the top two trim levels IF 15" wheels were specified. A number of owners reported that they had purchased the spare wheel and tools separately, some on eBay or similar. A few also reported that their dealers were not prepared to sell the space saver for owners of cars with 17" wheels because "the computer said they weren't available" for such cars. This despite the fact that Gen 3 Prius models came with a spare wheel (except for cars with the sunroof and plug-ins, which got the gunge) whether the 15" or 17" were fitted, and the rim sizes were the same as those for the Gen 4. Buying a car with 17" wheels and switching to 15" wouldn't be a technical problem, but you'd need to check with insurers every time you get a quote because it's a change from the original spec of the car. You'd probably find that most wouldn't give any problems, but a few might be difficult (one insurer refused to quote for my car because it had the thin rubber side body mouldings on the doors to protect against careless door opening by others!).
  12. PeteB

    Pre collision warning

    Yeah. Mine's never activated without an obvious reason in over 34,000 miles. Sounds suspicious.
  13. PeteB

    Pre collision warning

    A bit of both. I'm braking gently as the car creeps forward, but when the car thinks I should be stopping it beeps, flashes up "BRAKE" in large letters on the dash (Prius has two 4" screens in the dash, as well as the 8" infotainment screen) and brakes hard to an abrupt stop. Anyone in the car who didn't know about the system would probably think I'd hit the post!
  14. PeteB

    Pre collision warning

    Hmm, odd. On the one hand, I remember seeing a video some time ago (but don't recall where I'm afraid) of a demonstration by Thatcham people like the one in the NCAP video who said the dummy car had realistic general car type features like facsimile number plate & lights, plus some foil in the soft 'body' material as some cars use the camera as well as the radar and sonar to decide when to apply the brakes. My car certainly brakes if I get close to a metal post in the local shop car park, leaving about a 4 inch gap. But you're right - I'd want to be reassured the system works. After all, in my case, one reason I traded a perfectly good 2012 Prius for the latest model 2½ years ago was specifically to get these safety features (and the radar adaptive cruise control, which I really, really, really love!).
  15. PeteB

    Park assist

    That's right - you won't accelerate very quickly electrically without upsetting people behind. Try using the HSI (Hybrid System Indicator) (but don't overdo it, best not to crash!) - while the needle is in the bottom half of the ECO zone it will stay electric only as long as the HV battery has sufficient charge and you're not using the front screen defrost setting.