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  1. For the most part, letting the car handle everything is indeed a good choice. Where EV mode can come into it's own is where the driver can do something the car can't (yet!) - see into the near future. Sometimes starting up the engine for only a few seconds is inefficient. Some examples (for me) are: moving in a confined parking area to let someone else move their vehcile doing the first ¼ mile on a cold engine then stopping for a while (at the village shop/cash point) before doing a much longer drive where the first half mile of a journey on a cold start is stop-start, then a continuous cruise at 40, 50, 60 mph or more when the engine can run continuously whilst also driving the car* between a series of road humps where it's prudent (due to following traffic) to accelerate just hard enough where the engine would keeping starting (if EV mode not selected) just before lifting off to brake for the next one * one thing that still mesmerises me is the way in cold weather, when the engine first starts, the car runs on electricity alone even though the engine is running until it has finished a key part of it's warm-up cycle. It's as if the engine has been disconnected from the Hybrid system during this time, although very heavy acceleration will snap it out of it and bring the engine back into play. A Toyota insider once told me (in the days of the Gen 1 & 2 Prius) that allowing the engine to finish it's warm-up cycle before starting to drive would repay in overall better mpg (and emissions) unless the journey was going to be very short. I've no idea how true this was, if even if it was then, whether after much development of the Hybrid software it's still true today.
  2. PeteB

    Tpms sensors

    Yes, when you put the wheel without TPWS sensors on you will get the light on. This will be an MOT failure if you need to get an MOT done while the winter wheels are on the car. Will you be checking this with your insurer before committing? Not sure if they will be bothered by the size change to 16".
  3. If your latest model Prius does have Safety Sense version 2 like my RAV4, then one possible reason is that it uses both the camera on the front screen and the speed limit data in the SatNav database (even though it no longer displays speed limits on the SatNav screens), and somehow tires to work out which is more likely to be right if there's a discrepancy - which can still give the wrong answer.
  4. I'm pretty sure only Prius have this info available to display by the user (I think others do via the Techstream etc.) - I can't remember if the Gen 3 had it (I don't think it did) but my Gen 4 certainly did. It was interesting to see and even on longer, higher speed trips it would be in the 20%-30% range. During the 3 years/39,000 miles I had my Gen 4 it averaged 42% EV, with a best over a tankful of 56%. I wish I could see this info for my RAV4 - I suspect it will be nowhere near as good as the Prius, because the Hybrid system has to drag the brick-shaped RAV through the air which is likely much harder than doing os for the wedge-shaped Prius. It's very noticeable that on the straight and level the green EV light comes on less frequently than it did in the Prius, and only does so up to about 48 mph, whereas I often saw the symbol light up at up to 60 mph (albeit briefly) in the Prius. This only happens at the higher speed in the RAV when decelerating or going downhill.
  5. Although pictures only seem to be recorded while the PCSS is doing emergency braking if I am reading this correctly.
  6. Me too, and I've made the same comment in a number of other threads. Dashcams started appearing nearly 20 years ago, and I was sure by 2010 manufacturers would have stated offering built in ones. They could incorporate speed info, plus details of what lights are on, signals, horn use etc. I wonder what type of "black boxes" new cars in Europe and the UK will be required to have from 2022 - a camera based system would make a lot of sense.
  7. Hi Hal I've had experience of a couple of cars with MMT, both bought new, an Aygo in 2008 and a Yaris 1.33 6-speed in 2011. The MMT gearbox seems to be a love it or hate it system - I sort of loved it, but am even more in love the the gear-less driving in Toyota Hybrids, of which I've owned 5 since 2002 (and also driven 3 company ones). If the Hybrids didn't exist, I'd probably have an MMT. I can't speak for higher mileage, but the Aygo was my ex-partner's car and we kept it for 4½ years and had driven it just over 38,000 trouble free miles (51,000 km). I probably drove about 6-8,000 of those miles. One thing I did notice was that the seats were particularly comfortable for a car in this price range, which made up for the slightly firm suspension (a Toyota insider told me the French to the seats, which Toyota were responsible for the suspension - makes sense. The Yaris was bought by me in 2011 but after a year I went back to Hybrids, and swapped it with my by then ex-other half's Aygo, which I traded in for a Prius. She still has (and loves) the MMT Yaris, which last time I saw it had 39,000 miles on the clock (63,000 km) - again, trouble free.
  8. I think the beef it that this range figure cries wolf just as much as the fuel gauge and warning light do.
  9. I'm inclined to agree too, although over the years I've grown used to Toyota pessimism about fuel remaining. In this day and age, it's disappointing the gauge is not a graphic containing a digital quantity readout (in litres, gallons - pounds or kilos even - or whatever) that's accurate within 1-2%!
  10. What you say makes me think the post face-lift Prius PHEV (and therefore, probably, the Prius ordinaire too) still have version 1 of the Safety Sense features, whereas the completely newly designed 2019 model onwards RAV4 and Corolla have version 2. Out of interest, what is the lowest speed your Adaptive Cruise Control can be set to maintain (subject to traffic in front)? Whilst not conclusive, if it's around 28 mph rather than 18, that would add a little more weight to my belief it's SS version 1.
  11. I wonder if the 2019 version of the Prius is still using version 1 of the Safety Sense package? My last car, a 2016 Prius, had that and I agree, it was useless. My new RAV4 has version 2, with some useful improvements in most of the Safety Sense features, including RSA. It's still not 100%, but my experience has been that it's right at least 95% of the time, and when it briefly gets it wrong (for example, when passing rather than taking a 20 mph exit on a mini roundabout, it usually corrects itself quite quickly. This is because, unlike Safety Sense 1 which only used the windscreen camera, Version 2 combines this with the SatNav database and when there's a discrepancy, it seems to use some sort of logic to determine which is more likely to be right. I'm happy to leave it active on my current car. On top of that, when it is right, it can be used to rapidly set the Adaptive Cruise Control set speed. For example, if the current limit and ACC setting is 40 mph, and you pass a 60 mph sign, as long as the displayed speed limit is correct, pressing and holding + will put the set speed straight to 60. The ACC is also improved in that the set speed can now be as low as 18 mph (28 in the 2016 Prius), making it really useful in 20 limit zones. Also, Resume now works at any speed, including stationary, so that as traffic starts to move or traffic lights change if these's nothing in front, tapping the accelerator or selecting Resume again make the car set off without any further use of the accelerator.
  12. That's right. If you're in accessory mode it will switch off after 20 minutes with a message it's saving the 12V battery. It's more of a pain for a non-hybrid (unless done during a journey) as the engine will be running for the whole hour plus (mine took 1h 5m this time, the previous one was 1h 20m). A Prius owner on one of the groups I subscribe to came a cropper with this 2 or 3 years ago, as after he restated the car the Multi Function Display wouldn't fire up and it wouldn't respond to the USB stick any more. His dealer had to sort it out in the end. I parked on a clifftop car park above a local beach when I did mine - quite relaxing listening to the waves.
  13. I'm surprised Toyota let themselves be beaten by Ford on this, but even if I had a key that did this I would still maintain my current practice of putting the key to sleep (aka battery saving mode) at home and in places where I'm near the car and could have been observed parking it nearby (e.g. restaurants). [In case anyone is interested and doesn't know, press the unlock button twice quickly while holding the lock button in. Two double flashes of the little red light on the key confirm it's worked - as will trying to use keyless entry or start without waking the key up - do this my pressing any button on the key. I make a point of using the remote button to unlock the car after using battery save mode. Remember to do the spare key too, rather than rely on it going to sleep after a week or so (better safe than sorry). This is reliable as long as it becomes a regular habit, costs nothing and potentially saves a coin battery or two in the life of the car. I did try one of the Faraday pouches but it doesn't seem to work.] The problem with the keys that go to sleep if they're not moved, I you keep it in your pocket it may get woken up from time to time.
  14. Mine doesn't have a sun roof, but I also lost the glasses holder. I've seen other posts where people thought it was due to having the JBL upgrade - which I do have but only because I wanted the panoramic view monitor - only available as a package which includes both. I thought the test drive car (a Dynamic with the panoramic roof) did have the glasses holder. It's possible I saw it in the Design model in the showroom which didn't have a sunroof - I definitely saw the glasses holder in one of them.
  15. PeteB

    Disc Wear Survey

    It's absolutely possible. As I explained in a post link above, a Gen 1 Prius I once owned and kept until it was 9 years old with 163,000 miles on the clock "had minimal wear showing as the car reached 70k, but then for a year I used a company Prius and mine only got driven once every week or two, and then usually for short journeys. The rust was the killer, and the brakes were very noisy with grinding sounds and all the discs/pads needed replacing within the next 10k miles. The car was then used daily until I sold it at 9 years old with 163k and the discs/pads were still well under half used. This car was not garaged either." Although a lot of other factors can influence disc life, infrequent use seems to be a major enemy due to the cycle or rust while standing and brake wear on the occasions the car is driven. I've heard of lots of other reports of brake rust and subsequent demise due to low usage. Both my Gen 3 and 4 Prius were used almost every day it and looked like the brakes (discs and pads) would be good for nearly a quarter of a million miles if the wear continued at a linear rate. I was a bit disappointed that Toyota didn't improve the mix of metals used in OEM discs to counter the tendency to rust with low use. For the Gen 1 Prius they were prepared to replace discs that rusted prematurely, but after this they changed the wording of the warranty so they didn't have to do this any more - a cheapskate alternative!
  16. PeteB

    Disc Wear Survey

    I agree it's true type of usage (terrain, weather and driving style) will have a large bearing on brake life, it's not completely wasted to have this discussion, particularly with cars that have partial regenerative braking, as it can give an indication of what's possible. One thing I've found (even before I lived in Norfolk) that using the car almost every day and without any special tricks like reverse braking or braking in N to rub the discs, the brakes do seem to last better than ordinary petrol/diesel cars with no regenerative braking. And that despite the fact my Hybrids have not been garaged. Infrequent use will have a detrimental effect. Even in some of the more aggressive Hybrid driving I've observed in others, part of the braking will be handled by the regen system so that the brake wear will be reduced compared to conventional braking (except on some Hybrids like the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV if the driver selects 0 regen out of the 6 available settings). One thing that surprised me in a couple of 2,000/2,500 mile tours of Scotland and some trips in hilly parts of Devon, was that going down 20% 6 mile long gradients was possible on regen braking alone if one resisted the temptation to use B mode (unless necessary to aid control or safety) until after the HV battery was completely full (with took a surprising amount of time after the last HV gauge bar was lit).
  17. Having said that, whilst it has a lot of great features, my latest model Excel spec RAV4 seems a backward step in many ways compared to my previous 2016 4th Gen Prius Excel, which had: all four window switches illuminated a more ergonomically designed switch layout on the driver's armrest, on the RAV I keep knocking the mirror fold switch to closed when shutting the door mirror adjustment control was a large knurled knob that twisted to select left/right and was easily found without looking roof switches that were easy to find by feel and also illuminated illuminated glovebox "rain repellent" front side window glass that was surprisingly effective sound deadening laminated front side windows - I didn't appreciate how useful these were until I got the RAV that doesn't have them and hear a bit of wind noise from the mirrors at speed and more noise from diesels and cars with thumping music in traffic queues a Head Up Display of speed and Hybrid System Indicator - a major safety aid that has been on the Prius for 10 years now wireless phone charger (that's why I bought a new phone! Grrr) the best self parking system I've yet seen, made parallel parking in particular a quick affair as once selected it advised every time one passed a space the car would fit into (and could get you back out too) a poor SatNav but at least it didn't revert to North Up every other time the car was started and numerals were on the same screen as alpha characters when inputting addresses ability to use Playlists on USB music I just wish they'd copied all this from the Prius (which like for like is a cheaper car than the RAV). Also, the RAV's seat memory buttons are not illuminated or easy to find by feel, which is a pain in the dark as I switch between position 1 and 2 for driving and getting in/out. I don't remember ever upgrading a car and losing so many benefits, despite the other advantages of the RAV. However, I couldn't find anything else that ticked enough boxes, including the driving dynamics being similar the the Prius and having a spare wheel.
  18. PeteB

    Disc Wear Survey

    When I traded my Gen 3 (2012 post facelift T3) for a Gen 4 it had done 60,000 miles with 6mm pad remaining and disc reported as "good" (whatever that means!). See also my post here:
  19. It isn't! It's all in (whatever passes for) the mind of some members of their management.
  20. Was it a Kwik-fit by any chance? They were notorious at one time for refusing to do anything to Hybrids because they misunderstood what the differences were. A few other places heard about this and followed suit. I didn't think they still had this problem, but you never know!
  21. I received a letter today advising me to contact my dealer to get this recall done. Not sure if this is the same thing that held up deliveries of some cars, or if this is something different. Although some see things differently, I am quite reassured about Toyota's approach to doing recalls.
  22. It is also affected by amount of use the car gets and type of braking. I recently read a post (somewhere) from a US owner with over 200,000 miles on original discs and pads. A Gen 3 Prius I had from 2012 to 2016 had less than a quarter wear at 60k when I sold it, and my last Gen 4 sold at 40k showed the same very low wear. I try to plan ahead to get the best regen energy recovery, as well as smooth and comfortable progress. Since Gen 3 Prius, Toyota Hybrids have had a Hybrid System Indicator which I use to good effect (plus in the Gen 3/4 Prius the HSI is visible in the Head Up Display) to help get max regen and min brake wear. I know another owner whose brakes were fine at 100,000 on a Gen 2 Prius when he sold it (although his was garaged, unlike mine). My last Gen 1 Prius (2002-2011) had minimal wear showing as the car reached 70k, but then for a year I used a company Prius and mine only got driven once every week or two, and then usually for short journeys. The rust was the killer, and the brakes were very noisy with grinding sounds and all the discs/pads needed replacing within the next 10k miles. The car was then used daily until I sold it at 9 years old with 163k and the discs/pads were still well under half used. This car was not garaged either. From 2007-2011 I was manager of a fleet of Prius London minicabs (about 40 cars when I started and nearly 300 when I left), and some (but by no means all) drivers managed to wear out their brakes from using them enough in slow traffic (earlier generations only used the disc brakes below 7 mph, later versions from 5 mph) and hard enough above that to use the disc brakes as well as the regen.
  23. The MyToyota App says my first service is due at 9320 miles as well. I suspect it's a quirk in the App rather than a clever system that works out a service schedule according to usage. I wouldn't mind betting it says that for everyone. I have my tyres swapped every October and March by my dealer, at which point I'll ask them to install tyres such that they will all reach my chosen minimum tread depth (3mm) at roughly the same time. This includes bringing my full size spare into play each time. Once the original Bridgestone summer tyres are down to 3mm, I'll get my dealer to dispose of them and leave the Vredestein all-season tyres on all year round. I'll then take advice whether to rotate them at some interval so they all need replacing at once, or go back to best tread at rear and replace two at a time.
  24. Hi Andy. Assuming it works the same way as ours, the rocker switch on the armrest clicks to 3 positions - you need to have it in the middle (level) for the auto folding to work. It's too easy to knock it when grabbing the handle to close the door. The armrest switches on my last 2016 Prius were so much better designed than the RAV4, especially the mirror switch which was a large knurled knob which twisted left of right to choose which mirror it adjusted - so easy to find and work by feel alone. These and the roof switches are a big step backwards on the newer, more expensive RAV4 for some reason. I really wish they'd copied the format from the 4th Gen Prius, which BTW also had all the roof and window switches illuminated too.
  25. Mine's on 5,900, no sign of running out yet. Remind me if yours is an Excel (with headlamp pressure washers and low washer reservoir warning)? The first time my headlamp wash activated the amount of spray that shot up from the front of the car took me by surprise. The only other car I've had with headlamp wash was a Volvo, which also had little wipers on them. That had a truly massive reservoir that always lasted between services.