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  1. Maybe the dealer's on the ball and having been asked before or read about it they decided to do it as a matter of course during the PDI, or possibly even it was incorrectly set in the factory during testing or setting up, although I'd have expected that to be fairly automated.
  2. Yep, and I came a cropper with the 4th Gen Prius upsetting my hips big time. I had hoped to keep it until I'm forced to stop driving by some worsening health issues, but the agony got too extreme and was causing other problems with back and knees because of the strain I put on them getting out and out while trying to minimise the pain! A far cry from the original Gen 1 Prius that had such a high hip point the brochure had a diagram showing how it made for easy entry and exit! My GP practice's Physio team said it was becoming a very concerning and widespread problem as more cars get lower while manufacturers try to improve CO2 and other emissions. Two people I know had had to change their choice of car too, one had a 2012 Auris and was going to get a new one a couple of year ago, and didn't even want to get into the demonstrator for a test. He now had an SUV too.
  3. I asked my dealer to do this before delivery too, and although they said they weren't aware of the option and no one had asked before, they worked out how to do it no problem. It was great on the hot summer days we had to be able to open all the windows as soon as I was in range so that the worst of the heat had gone when I got to the car. As Peter said, you can close them too, and if you have the panoramic roof it will open/close that at the same time. Closing should be less necessary unless you've deliberately left something open, as when you open a door if a window is even open such a tiny amount you can't see it you get an audible warning and message on the dash.
  4. Lane Trace: Assuming your system is the same as the new RAV4, you can keep the lane departure part active and disable the lane centring and/or steering assist in the menus on the centre screen if you want to. It does suggest this if off by default in my manual, but I'm sure it wasn't one of the things I turned on myself. Certainly it was also active in the test drive car. SatNav: I hardly use mine (use a TomTom instead). The Toyota SatNav has poor traffic if you rely on the TMC/RDS Radio option, is better if you use Internet traffic data by tethering a phone. When I've used both side-by-side, the TomTom wins almost every time. The TomTom also allows me to save multi-stop journeys, which the built-in system doesn't. Also, entering addresses on the built-in system is pain as when entering house numbers and postcodes it takes two extra presses each time you switch between alpha and numeric input (my last 2 Prius had better input than this). Speed Recognition: the first generation version in my last Prius was solely from the windscreen camera, and was absolute rubbish. Almost everybody I 'spoke' to turned it off. However, I must say I've found the one on my RAV4 to be acceptably accurate - about 97% I guess. I occasionally picks up a 20 when passing a roundabout exit I'm not taking, but usually corrects fairly quickly from the SatNav database. Visibility: on the RAV the thick C pillars limit the view front the rear view mirror, but no worse than many cars. What is intensely annoying, is that some markets (including USA and Germany get a camera based 'mirror' that uses a camera in the top of the rear windows, in the area swept by the wiper. Also is unaffected by rear passengers or highly loaded hatch area, and the driver can adjust brightness, zoom angle and tilt angle. Angry that we can't even pay extra for this on a factory ordered car (along with several other features other countries get, like ventilated front seats, heated rear seats, heated front screen and washer jets, foot sensor to open powered boot, cordless phone charger and paddle shifters! Adaptive (Radar) Cruise Control: I just loved it on my last 2016 Prius, it's improved even further with the Safety Sense 2 package our cars have, especially being able to set it down to 18 mph (28 previously), which makes it really helpful in some 20 mph zones. Park Assist: don't get this on my Excel RAV, but had it on my 2016 Excel Prius - another major annoyance. It was great at measuring each gap as you passed a row of parked cars and alerting to which spaces it could get into - it got me into (and back out of) some that I wouldn't have looked at myself. Auto Dip: better than the Prius, but still too inconsiderate to others (especially people some distance in front going the same direction) for my stomach to it stays off. Don;t know if the current version is better or worse, but my on Prius it wouldn't switch to high bream below 27 mph, which in very twisty, high backed and tree lined country lanes in my area was downright dangerous in the pitch black. Auto Headlights: before the Prius cars I've driven with this had a fully off opposition, and I find it absolutely unbelievable I can't disable on the latest cars - several places where I drive in narrow, tightly bending back roads with 2 storey building either side, and soem local roads with overhanging trees the lights come on suddenly without warning and I've had 3 (so far) very near misses where people think I'm flashing them in the first second they come on. Also, if I'm parked with the power on, they come on too, even In Ignition on state were everything is on the 12V battery. Asinine! And I'm frankly astonished Construction and Use regulations allow it.
  5. Although it's not 'gliding', when you lift off the throttle it does charge the battery until you're below 7 mph or so. You can see this on the Energy Monitor display as shown here on a Wheel Network YouTube video from 2m 51s (should start there if you click the play arrow):
  6. I've used a hand car wash near me on my last 3 (and current) cars for the last 8 years, and haven't noticed anything untoward. All but one have been plain white, and I'd have thought that, if any colour, that would show up any problems. They've always got bird muck off too, and occasionally they've removed the odd black mark where something plastic has rubbed against the car. Sure if I drove a car costing £200,000 upwards I'd probably be using one of the specialist hand cleaners who comes to the house and spends all day (and charges accordingly - I can't remember exactly, but a program I watched some time ago about one such fella said he charged a four figure sum per clean). A bit steeper than mine who charge £14 (was £12 for the Prius) to do my RAV4 inside and out, including a thorough glass clean in and out and a wipe of all the dash surfaces and door trims.
  7. and it's not just us who are noticing the mpg drop...
  8. and while we Hybrid drivers have a lot of advantages, one slight disadvantage is that we may be running the petrol engine some of the time just to warm up the cabin.
  9. Good point, and I have the same view, being aware of it. From speaking to people I've actually met (we had Prius owner 'meets' in the early days), a couple of people who actually did it (on original Mk 1 Prius) had no problems, because it was obvious (red triangle and other warning lights) and they pulled over pretty promptly (using only a little HV battery juice). I believe it needed 2+ gallons to persuade the system to restart. I've heard less reliable reports that later models didn't highlight it, and weren't aware they'd run out until the car stopped with a badly depleted HV battery, that wouldn't restart the car, or at best needed something to be reset by a dealer (or maybe these days someone with a Techstream or similar). I must emphasise though, I can't vouch for this. In the early days, a lot of us regarded it as a bit of a challenge to see who could go the furthest after the low fuel warning without running out, but since the stories of later cars (which may or may not have substance) I don't play that game any more.
  10. Firstly, some people use what I would regard as extreme techniques and do better then me, but I keep my cruising down to 60 on the clock where speed limits and conditions permit, stay in ECO mode 99% of the time and ECO Climate Control 100% of the time. I let the car do a lot of my accelerating on the ACC, which in ECO mode is pretty leisurely. Until late August I was averaging 52, and on a 250 mile round trip on 17 July I got 58.4 (which generally seems to be within 2% accuracy - much more accurate that previous Toyotas). That included some local running around at during the day as well (in similar conditions the Prius would have managed mid 80s!) - though it's average optimism was 5%. The key thing with my driving is that in a typical day I do between 5 and 14 short hops, mostly cold starts, and many under 4 miles. This will not help at all. Also, in a month I now only average 1, maybe 2 longer trips that bring the average up. When I had my original Gen 1 Prius 17 years ago, I had a 40 mile each way cross country commute to work, at least one 600 mile weekend trip a month, and my mpg barely dropped at all during the winter. It's interesting to compare - in 1977 I had a Fiat 126 for 1 year/12,000 miles, which weighed almost nothing (smaller than the original mini!) and had a 600cc, 24hp, air cooled lawn mower engine in the boot. Claimed 0-60 time was 60 seconds (yes - 1 minute!) - except in a head wind when I never got to 60! That averaged 42 mpg overall in the year (you had to thrash it to slip stream milk floats, etc), in a car that would almost fit in the boot of the RAV4 (with the seats down, of course).
  11. I tentatively ordered before my dealer even had a demonstrator and confirmed in March when I got my first, brief test drive. At the time, the internet sites weren't quoting the model I wanted, and I wasn't expecting to do well on the deal given it was already obvious demand would be high and supplies were short. As it was, I got may car after 3 months. The deal my salesman (who I've dealt with a few times) put together surprised me under the circumstances, as it included what I considered a good discount, a very good trade-in and 2 years' interest free credit. Since I normally pay the balance in cash, I opted for minimal monthly payments (£206) with a rather big final payment. As my trade-in was above the maximum allowable deposit, they transferred a very significant sum into my bank account as part of the deal. This, plus the amount of the loan, will be earning (admittedly pitiful) interest in the mean time - better than nothing. Out of respect for my salesman, I don't want to be more specific about numbers, and while I may have done a bit better still if I'd shopped around and waited a bit longer, the 4th Gen Prius I had previously had turned out to be so low to the ground I was having extreme pain in my hips most of the time, but especially getting in and out of the car. The RAV4 was the only Hybrid that drove the Toyota Hybrids drive that also met most of my other 'must haves', and I wanted it yesterday or preferably sooner! As it happens, my hip and knock-on knee/back problems have all but gone away in the 4 months I've had the RAV.
  12. To be fair, I suspect the air resistance on a caravan will be at least as significant as the weight, if not more so. Plus aerodynamic drag will be worse the lower the air temperature as the air becomes more dense. That's one reason I'm bracing for my RAV to take an even bigger mpg hit in the winter that I'm used to after over 300,000 miles in very slippery Prius.
  13. I found the same when I went from the 3rd generation to 4th Gen Prius - the claimed tank size dropped by 2 litres, but I was getting over 100 extra miles per tankful - usually over 600 miles per tank. Whilst many are pleased with their 2019 RAV4 mpg, it comes as a bit of a shock to me (though not unexpected) after being used to over 80 mpg on summer cross country runs, and overall average of 63½. If I still did more longer runs and fewer short trips as I did before retirement, I expect the overall average would have stayed above 70! - not bad for a decent sized 5 seater. As the cold/wet weather has started to arrive, my recent average on the RAV4 has dropped to around 45 mpg (these are figures calculated by me, not the car's computed one - although the computed figures are averaging about 2% optimistic, Vs 5% on all previous Toyotas I've driven).
  14. The most I've got in mine is 46.7 litres (10.27 imperial gallons). I brim the tank each time so that I can just see the fuel, partly to minimise trips to the petrol station and partly trying to be consistent with my calculations. On that fill I'd done 535 miles since my previous fill (52.1 mpg), the fuel gauge read approximately 6% remaining, 25 miles left. My database calculated a remaining range of 95 miles to empty if the tank holds what Toyota says and 1.8 gallons left. This is consistent with previous Toyota Hybrids I've owned, and reports Toyota play it safe to minimise the risk of running the tank dry. The mk1 Prius only had a digital fuel gauge with 10 'blobs', the last of which started flashing when a low level was reached, but was easy to miss. A single ding and message on the centre screen advised to "add fuel" (in French as well) with no further reminders when cleared. The most I did after this was 30 miles (with a calculated ¼ gallon remaining), and a few people claimed up to nearly 50, but a couple managed to run out. I can't vouch for how true it is, but there has been the odd (rare) report of people running out on more recent Hybrid versions and wrecking the HV battery as a result. So if you do experiment, be careful!
  15. Just out of interest, was your last Excel a Hybrid too?
  16. PeteB

    Beeps and light

    Might be a few dashes then (between off and slow speed). If you don't have Auto wipers I'd be surprised if you don't have intermittent.
  17. This poll, if you believe in such things, suggest quite a few people want a spare wheel, and not just a space saver:
  18. This poll, if you believe in such things, suggest quite a few people want a spare wheel, and not just a space saver:
  19. PeteB

    Beeps and light

    If there's a position marked "AUTO" on the bit of your wiper stalk that you rotate to set the wiper speed, then you do, if it says "INT" these it's ordinary intermittent. Smaller ring in the stalk with widening marks sets either the auto sensitivity or intermittent interval. If there's a button somewhere on the lower dash like this then you have auto high beam. A green light on the button glows when it's selected on. When the headlights are turned on and this button is turned on a lamp like this glows green on the dash.
  20. PeteB

    Satnav update

    I bought my TomTom GO 6000 4½ years ago for £200 (special offer), and so far have been amazed by the quality of the maps (4 free updates a eyar) and most of all the live traffic which is downloaded from the mobile phone data network every 2 minutes. (The Toyota built-in system traffic is not too bad if using Internet base traffic data via a tethered mobile phone, but it doesn't match the TomTom for avoiding problems. However, unlike the TomTom, it won't save multi-stop journeys via the in-car screen). I would be surprised (and disappointed) not to get at least another 4 years' updates out of it, but they're already advertising their top model to existing owners for 30% discount (price to pay £257) which adds WiFi update (no PC ro Mac needed) and free Speed Camera updates to the deal on my 6000.
  21. PeteB

    Satnav update

    You should see some of the quotes for updating the Hard Drive based SatNav in the pre-face lift Gen 3 Prius! Someone from a Toyota HQ had to visit the dealership with a computer of some sort that they connected to the car for an hour or two - quotes were in the £400-£800 bracket IIRC.
  22. PeteB

    Beeps and light

    If your car has Adaptive Cruise Control (the radar type that slows down if there's something slower in front of you) and you're using it when you hear the four beeps, that's the sound this system makes if a hill makes it go a little faster than your set speed - usually, it has brought you back close enough to your set speed a second or two after the beeps. The other time it might happen is if you've used the accelerator to briefly exceed your set speed and then lifted off to let the speed settle back to you set speed.
  23. same here, just idle curiosity as it seemed odd that only one car appeared to have it Couldn't agree more - insurers can be quite funny, and you certainly don't want to find out how much so as you're trying to claim! At my last renewal, one firm I approached for a quote had a list of things they wanted to know about which even included magnetic signs on the doors. A few years ago, Co-op Insurance actually declined to quote because I had the official Toyota body side mouldings to help protect against other people's careless door opening in car parks! The lady put me on hold to speak to an underwriter, who confirmed the ½ inch thick strips meant they couldn't quote because "it changed the car's dimensions". Wow!
  24. In the last few years, I've only had a few slow punctures that with the help of my own aftermarket Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (as opposed to Warning System that's built-in) I've made it to my dealer without changing the wheel (this has a small display that shows the actual pressure all 5 tyres, and monitors temperatures too - Google Tyrepal if you want to know more)). If I get to the stage where I only ever drive a few miles from home (as one or two older neighbours do), I might think differently. However, since 2000, I've driven nearly 400,000 miles (about 320,000 in Hybrids, BTW) and had almost 20 occasions where a wheel change was necessary. Four of those would absolutely certainly not have been repairable with gunge (especially one where there wasn't a shred of rubber left on the rim by the time I got to the hard shoulder! - unless there is some very clever gunge available!) three more where success of gunge would be dubious and the remainder where it would probably have worked. Even one slow puncture that probably could have been dealt with by the repair kit to get me home needed a new tyre since the damage was at the shoulder. It took 10 days to get the replacement winter tyre, and even a space saver would be a liability for this length of time in wintry weather. I avoided space savers as long as possible (a trip on the M1 at 50 mph in a Volvo with one was hair raising, to say the least). My RAV4 came with one, but as there's room under the boot floor for a full size, I bought one. I've heard of a few stories of people who've been massively inconvenienced by the gunge not working, and a couple who didn't even know they had no spare wheel until they were informed by the AA/RAC person they'd called to fit it! Here's another interesting tale: