The current Leon cupra is the newest in the Seat/Audi/VW line up and is the car that all the above will be based on it has the latest floor pan, that the rest will use, this was in all the motoring press last september, so any changes to the Leon will only be minor face lifts, I had a Focus ST170 for under a month, brake problems wich could not be rectified (took Ford 5 mths to fix), so having already ruled out the cicvic type R (to wild in the wet, not enough toys) I paid a visit to the Seat dealer, and took a Leon Cupra for a test drive (R version was not available at the time) the turbo is good and handling was good to, build quality suprised me,(but given my 2 previous cars where new corolla,s) it did not impress me. But when you look at the spec of the Cupra R, you'd have to spend a lot of money on all the revivals to match the quality extra,s. But i couldn't wait, I got a T Sport and have never looked back, passing 6200, is fantastic, staying there trough 4 gear chages is an experience i frequetly enjoy, and the looks on the faces of BMW, Audi,VW,Alfa drivers ect, is that of "what the **** was that" lol :D :D :D I'm wait to fit lowering kit, already have 17x7's on, and also want the quick shift kit, which will help keep the revs high as i change.