so u saying you can tune a na lump more than a turbo lump the t200 is just a lap timer thast it dosnt do 0-60 when u had ur "Full live remap from redline tuning" what bhp u pull as im guessing they did it on rollers ok this is turning in to a witch hnt now firstly im not saying i can tune a n/a car more than a turbo as we get turbos to go even quicker you are correct a t200 is a lap timer it was started at pull away and stoped at 60 manualy as for the full remap that was done on the a127 & a130 rolling roads are not availible till next week but i will stick it on the rollers and as for lord-ed QOUTE "im sorry mate but that aint right, i had most powerful na celica in uk man and it would do like lees aid 0-60 in 6 ish"UNQOUTE if you had the fastest n/a in england then im sorry to say it must have been in 1980's as i know of at least two that run 0-60 in less than that one of which is a gen 5 gt built by odd kid creations and the other one was a gen 6 st202 that inspired me to buy mine and that used to do it in sub five secounds without nos this one was built by craig fellows motorsport so when u say u used a t200 u used a stopwatchs, hardly accurate is it, also im guessing you have a wideband afm as there is no way i would let anyone remap my fuel cyrve without knowing if i was running lean or too rich that would be foolish, those two celicas you mention get me some specs as googling isnt bringing anything up at all for them or the companies that built them. untill i see a RR printout and or a pod slip......sorry mate but bull