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  1. I have an update - good news... I sought help from Toyota Customer Relations (reachable by phoning Toyota UK HQ), who eventually put me in touch with their CoC coordinator. They said that the only way they could provide the requested proof for my vehicle was via the Certificate of Conformity (I know that was suggested here too). (Note, the ULEZ department really only requested the NOx value, but it seemed I couldn't get that information without ordering a full CoC.) Well, that worked out. After completing a form (personal & vehicle details) I soon received the CoC document, and sent it to the ULEZ department. They were satisfied and happily corrected the categorisation of my gen 1 Prius as being ULEZ-compliant. So I now am not charged the ULEZ fee whenever I drive in London's ULEZ zone. A point to note re obtaining a CoC from Toyota: According to the current information on the CoC application form, if one is not the original owner, then a fee of £75 is payable before the CoC is issued. I'm not the original owner, but I happened to mention to the Customer Relations staff that I purchased my vehicle from an official Toyota dealer. They then said that in that case I wouldn't need to pay the £75 - I just needed to provide them proof (i.e. purchase invoice). This point is not currently mentioned on their information about obtaining a CoC, so do bear in mind. I hope the above might be helpful to anyone else who might have a gen1 Prius that is incorrectly registered as being non-compliant vis-a-vis ULEZ.
  2. Hi Alan, My car is actually taxed under the old system, as it was first registered in January 2001. Had it been registered in March 2001, it would have been under the new system (and I would have benefited from zero road tax at the time, but that was not to be for my Gen1 prius alas!). At the time, I recall this was simply a matter of registration dates; even if the emissions levels were compliant to be eligible for zero tax, there was nothing I could do about that. In fact, originally, the V5C didn't have it categorised as a hybrid, which was an error that I managed to get corrected. So, maybe this indeed is related. But surely in this case I should be able to prove compliance by demonstrating that identical models that Y-reg instead of X-reg are considered compliant? Not sure yet how to go about that though...
  3. Thanks Tony, Mike and Lee for your helpful replies. I purchased my gen1 Prius in 2006 as an approved used Toyota from a Toyota dealership. There was no indication of it being a grey import, and I don't believe it is. Would the V5C document normally confirm this? (I don't see any indication in its V5C of it being an import) I don't think CoCs were issued at that time with the car - in any case, one wasn't passed to me when I purchased the car. An interesting finding though: I note Tony entered the reg number of a Y-reg Gen1 Prius into the ULEZ vehicle checker, and got the result that the car was ULEZ-compliant. My Gen1 Prius car is an X-reg, and the result is that it is not ULEZ-compliant. Following Tony's lead, I found 4 different images of gen1 Priuses on the web with their full UK reg numbers: for the two X-reg and one W-reg Priuses, they all came back as not ULEZ-compliant, like my X-reg Prius. However, for the Y-reg Prius, it was returned as being ULEZ-compliant (no need to pay the ULEZ charge). Both the X-reg and Y-reg models are identical, so it seems that the compliance might be granted for Gen1s that are Y-reg onwards? If that is the case, it would not be right, but I'm not yet sure who I should be approaching about that. Appreciate any thoughts about this.
  4. Thank you @alan333 and @TonyHSD. @TonyHSD, Your finding is very interesting. When I plug in the reg number for my gen1 Prius, the information that comes back is that I have to pay both CC and ULEZ charges, so I have been under the impression that the particular model is possibly incorrectly registered as non-compliant (re ULEZ), and have had to pay the charge accordingly each time I enter the ULEZ zone. It's definitely the reg number of a Gen1 Prius that you inputted? i.e. produced between 2000 and 2003? And does the V5C doc for that car have the exhaust emissions indicated on it? In my case, those fields in the V5C are all blank. (My gen1 Prius was first registered in Jan 2001)
  5. Thank you @Big_D for sharing that extract - much appreciated, and an eye-opener for me. Certainly, in the CoC for your (very new) car, the necessary data is all there. I wonder though if such emissions data could be accessible elsewhere, free of charge? At least then I can know the particular emissions values for my specific Prius model and if they meet the ULEZ standards (as I'm hoping), then I could go ahead and order the official CoC to submit to the ULEZ dept. Many thanks again.
  6. Thank you @Big_D for this information. Before I take a gamble with the £75, it would be good to know what the CoC would indicate - has anyone here seen a CoC or received one with their car? E.g. if the CoC simply confirms that the car is compliant with e.g. Euro3, that would not be sufficient, as minimum for ULEZ compliance is either Euro4, or if you can prove your vehicle meets the specific emissions standards (NOx, CO and THC in this case). (Note, the V5C doc for my old Prius doesn't indicate any emissions data, so is not sufficient on its own) Otherwise, if there's anyone here who's succeeded in registering their Gen1 Prius (2000-2003) as being ULEZ-compliant, I'd be really interested to know how you went about proving the compliance.
  7. Thanks for this. According to the ULEZ checker, my gen1 Prius is not ULEZ-compliant, but I believe that's simply based on the car predating Euro4 (registration date is 2001). The link you refer to states that to prove my vehicle meets the ULEZ standards, I'd need to submit the V5C and also: "A letter from the vehicle manufacturer's homologation department stating the vehicle's Euro standard or a conformity certificate." I'm keen to know if anyone here has succeeded in registering a Gen1 Prius with TfL as being ULEZ-compliant, and how they went about doing that. Otherwise, so far, I've not been able to source the documentation that could serve as the necessary proof, so any advice/tips about that would also be much appreciated.
  8. I own an old Gen1 Prius, which is still going strong (relatively low mileage ~165k). Although it predates Euro4, could it still be ULEZ-compliant? I haven't been able to find the necessary emissions data to hopefully prove the car is compliant, and so was wondering if anyone here might have experience of this matter, in particular for proving to the ULEZ dept of Transport for London that the car is compliant?
  9. Many thanks for the reply. The energy display generally doesn't change. It continues showing that the car is running on the electric motor only. However, the power/performance level would have dropped significantly as explained. To me, it's as if the battery has perhaps been discharged too much but that the petrol engine hasn't kicked in as it aught to have in order to compensate and hence the marked reduction in power. As explained, this is a rather random phenomenon - not happening predictably or all the time, but happening nevertheless (and difficult to demonstrate when you need to!) Another observation in case it is related: When placing the car in "P", sometimes the petrol engine switches on. My understanding is that in the "P" position, if the engine is running (and aircon and heating are off) then it is doing so to charge the traction battery. In that case I would expect the energy display to indicate that the engine is charging the battery. However, such an indication is not always present - most of the time there is no animation in any of the energy paths on the display when the car is in "P" but running. Hopefully, this is not a major problem but I would be interested to know if it this is what other members of the forum have observed with their Prius' (old model), and of course I'm wondering if this observation could be linked to my original issue raised in this post. Thanks for that - will have a look.
  10. Hello I've recently purchased an old-generation Prius (2001) and am very pleased with it. There is one problem that I have been unable to demonstrate to the dealership because it is intermittent, and of course will refuse to show up when I take the car on a test run with an engineer! Problem is this: When driving the car at a constant steady speed, at some random point in time, there is a sudden distinct reduction in power. You can sense that the car has suddenly become very sluggish and you have to push the accelerator pedal down a lot further to maintain the same speed/performance. After a few minutes the normal power/performance level recovers. Although this seems occur at any speed, it seems to occur most at around 30mph, and usually when the car is running on purely battery power. Has anyone on this forum experienced this sort of rather annoying problem or have any ideas? Many thanks.
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