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  1. HectorG, My apologies, I was so quick to comment that I overlooked how often you were having the problem. That is so frequent I would think it must be a malfunction of the system and would definitely want MrT to check it. I hope you get a satisfactory resolution to it.
  2. This has happened to mine twice. I do not regard it as a fault. Over a year ago in the winter we had sleet and ice. The car was parked in a street in Birmingham and was covered in snow. The sensors all round had frozen snow over them and a warning came up of proximity sensors not available. They were fine after I cleared the snow off. I go to work along a country lane which floods and is very muddy. Last week the car asked me to clean the sensors.
  3. I have posted my own view of the Gen 4 here I came across this longterm test of the Prius on Honest John, which seems to reflect the reality of living with these cars better than some journalists do. https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/our-cars/toyota-prius/how-many-countries-on-one-tank-of-petrol-part-two/
  4. Haha! that's the target then! Actually on the 109mpg journey the first, slower half was showing 140 mpg but the 60 mph road at the end knocked it down. Still, it's fun to see what it can do.
  5. Yes the mpg is another bonus of this lovely car. I am aware that you can drive for extreme economy but I never aimed for that in my Gen 3. I averaged about 53mpg. In the Gen 4 I have averaged 63.8 mpg true calculated over 2650 miles so far. I usually drive in the calm manner engendered by the car but do sometimes drive fast just for a change or on a long trip. On the other hand I drove back from work a few weeks ago on a nice warm day and noticed a display as I stopped, showing 92.8 mpg. This is a short (8.3 miles) cross country trip with ups and downs and a bit of main road driving. So I started checking the display and with careful throttle control got more electric running. Last Friday return from an out of town spot through edge of town (32mph max, 40 and 60mph roads) yielded 109.7 mpg over 11.4 miles. I am careful not to hold up following drivers. This is of course getting better than the official road test figure so I am surprised and pleased that this is possible on slower routes. Incidentally, my wife then asked for a lift into town centre, and the round trip with a warm engine didn’t use any petrol.
  6. Yes PeteB, 1. you're right, but I do mean 2. I don't see the need to sit pressing a pedal for ages and I do not appreciate to have lazy people's brake lights in my face. That gets tiring in a city. When I learned to drive the handbrake was used. Of course in constant stop start to put it into P(ark) is not sensible.
  7. Mr T has the Hydrogen Fuel Cell/electric in operation . Interesting points BTW Cyker
  8. I'm glad you like it. I wrote this to extol the Prius’s virtues as so many reviews don’t appear to get it at all. Of course all cars might have something that the owner will dislike or find inconvenient but overall I find the joy of Prius ownership eclipses any minor niggles. PeteB, I entirely agree with your view on the calmer driver. This is a real effect and I recall the advert a year or two back which cited research in an Italian city that stress levels were lower in the Toyota Hybrid drivers.
  9. The Prius Gen 4 Although many of the descriptions here apply to all versions of the Prius gen 4, driving impressions and results are of my Business Edition Plus with 15” wheels and Bridgestone Ecopia EP150 195/65R15 91H tyres. This is my view -you may find it ‘dogmatic’ and biased but you’re allowed to love your car! Hybrid cars have never been understood by most motoring journalists and motorists so their benefits have not been appreciated. As a consequence much pollution has and is being generated by out of date propulsion technology. The Toyota system (Hybrid Synergy Drive) is the most effective system for propelling a car efficiently over daily mixed driving. The Prius is the best example of a hybrid for this purpose, but this has not been widely realised because most do not understand the issues. Having read many reviews and explanations of the hybrid drive system it is clear that it is not understood, and its advantages not explained. The Prius generation 4 is the most efficient car which does not plug in. It is second in low pollution to the i3, an electric car. There is no range anxiety with the Prius as you can go many hundreds of miles on a tank of petrol, which only takes a few minutes to fill. Practical journeys of hundreds of miles with a family and their luggage are easily possible. It is important to note that it is a very clean petrol/electric hybrid. The Prius is affordable and intended to be used in everyday motoring, not a manufacturer’s attempt to include a low emission vehicle in their range. In regard to it being a very clean petrol/electric hybrid, drivers have been erroneously encouraged to buy Diesel powered cars in the mistaken belief that they were low polluters simply on good mpg thus low CO2, and now Governments around the world are having to find ways to discourage use of Diesel power particularly in urban areas where the majority live. The discussion has now started to mention the high level of poisonous NOx emissions from diesel engines and the carcinogenic soot from diesel exhausts. The Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive is a near perfect way to power a passenger car. Continual development means it is refined, efficient, smooth and quiet. It is nice to know that with such driving pleasure comes excellent economy, low pollution, low tax and low maintenance costs. The gen 4 Prius is fresh and dramatically styled both inside and out. To me a cross between luxury car and stealth fighter. It makes most cars seem very old -fashioned, and is very smooth and pleasant to travel in. The entire engine/motors/transmission/controller is a brilliant compact package. Unlike conventional drive trains, both manual and automatic, the Prius has no clutch, or gears to shift, therefore no clutch mechanism and gearshift mechanism. There is no starter motor to engage, nor fan belt and water pump belt, which are all sources of problems in old-fashioned cars. Imagine an old-fashioned manual car starting up. First a noisy starter is engaged and a little churning goes on until the engine fires. Then gears are crunched and the clutch is let up to allow a jerky take-off, unless of course the engine is stalled and the car stuck, while the whole process is repeated. A few seconds later another gear has to be selected and the clutch engaged to try a smooth gearchange. There is no gear lever as no gears are “shifted”; forward and reverse motion are selected by a switch when stationary. Take-off is accomplished by electric power and is smooth and continuous, with no risk of stalling. At traffic lights it is not necessary to keep the Prius in “gear” (that is switched to drive) as it sits silently until Drive is selected and this can be done more quickly than many drivers sitting with their foot on the clutch and their car burning fuel, can engage the clutch and move off. On the road the car is very easy and pleasing to drive. The certain availability of torque to propel the car makes daily driving easier and worry free. The electronic driver aids such as radar cruise control, lane warning and blind spot monitoring are a great help to safe driving and reduce the load on the driver. The head up display has always been a favourite of mine, although originally regarded as a gimmick by some motoring journalists. The Prius is very convenient in everyday use, from the ease of entry with the keyless system to the ability to carry large items occasionally. The ride and handling are very good and as mentioned noise levels are low. It is often not obvious whether the petrol engine is running. Driving on the road or turning in tight spaces is easy and the car is very easy to manoeuvre. When necessary it parks itself accurately with minimal input from the driver. The car is technically a great achievement from Toyota, who have been steadily developing the future of motoring for some years. The entire engine transmission and two electric motors integrated into a compact unit
  10. Absolutely not. I will not be rude about their offering but it uses a 6 speed automatic gearbox and dual clutch transmission. The Toyota Prius has no shifting gearbox or clutch mechanism. Simpler, more reliable and virtually seamless. I believe it is true to say some manufacturers have licenced the HSD technology and either get their tramsmission from Toyota associated company or build their own such as Ford in USA.
  11. I am replying to OP post number 1; You don’t seem to have taken to the Prius at all. It might “grow on you” but that does not seem a promising impression. I sense you are trying to like the car and that is not a good basis for it. When I first drove a Gen 3 in 2010 I knew immediately that this was the car for me. I spent weeks finding out how it worked, its reliability and costs etc, and then bought one. After 7 years I have just bought a new Gen 4 which is stunning. I so love the Toyota HSD that if a car has a gearbox and a diesel engine I am not interested. Funnily I was thinking only a few days ago that the big-engined diesels are optimised for motorway driving and are good at constant 70mph + cruising. Also that the Prius is very different and most people don’t seem to like “different”. The Prius was designed to be a 21st century car, efficient and great to use in mixed everyday driving. It was intended to be better for the environment. Of course its safety, reliability and low running cost for this type of motoring are clear. It is easy and delightful to drive and encourages a relaxed style. It is kind to everyone’s lungs too. It is the most efficient car that does not plug in. It is a Low Emissions Vehicle. I like the fact that motoring bliss also helps everybody else even though most people are driving less efficient gas-guzzling polluters. The economy of the Prius is not the main point for me, I just love the way it does what it does. Its economy has always been the icing on the cake. In my new Gen 4 I have been from North Shropshire to North Wales and Snowdonia, Aylesbury and back, Milton Keynes and back, Birmingham and back, Wolverhampton and back. and local work/shopping. Motorways M54,M6,M1, M42, M40. After two tankfuls I had done 1,001 miles and put in 15.6 gall of UL.
  12. As I have commented elsewhere on this forum, I think it is quite wrong to buy a new car with the intention to change something so glaringly wrong for the UK and possibly US and European markets. It is the manufacturer's job to remedy this lapse of judgement. I do not want to buy a new Prius now, only to find that in six months they change the colour of this part. Neither do I want to be the "butt" of jokes about toilets on wheels. All this grief over a hideous article that exists so people can guzzle while driving - unbelievable
  13. I had a good test drive the other day along motorway, edge of town and back through a winding country road. I am very pleased with the improved handling, ride quality and smoothness. It is quieter and more refined in operation. That was BE plus with 17" wheels. Forward visibilty is much improved. I found the radar controlled cruise control interesting and potentially a life saver(?) It is a novelty to have it recognise traffic signs and integrate with the HUD, something I wanted to incorporate nearly 40 years ago but was technically too difficult to do then. You can't have everything; the HUD doesn't show roundabout and turn info, the rear headroom is less, the boot loses the underfloor compartment and the load bay is not flat when seats are down. Would be very keen to order but the white sanitary ware is a deal breaker so am waiting for Toyota to offer a discreet option which tones in with the interior rather than stands out. I hope they respond quickly to what US and English viewers regard as a bum note. (hoho)
  14. Yes painting is not acceptable . It looks like moulded self-coloured "plastic" and presumably can be any colour. I personally wouldn't accept a sprayed one. I mean it is positive in the sense that dealers are clearly not happy about the item and don't want to lose sales over it. I will wait for a proper option from Toyota.
  15. Ah! now that's a positive move. I had a two hour loan/drive of a Prius today and was really pleased with the progress in ride, handling, smoothness and quietness. Wife and son liked the looks and interior until Mrs saw the sanitary ware. "What's that!" she said, "It looks naff - you can't buy a car with that." I told the dealer I would be ordering a car when they offer different options for the sanitary ware. I was thinking a pearlescent charcoal grey or gloss black might be suitable.
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