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  1. As the original poster mentioned the Yaris diesel does not pull away well so can feel sluggish and end up with those moments where you worry.... That is the bad side. The good side is that the motor is a marvel. I have got 630 miles out of one tankful at an average of over 70 mpg and I have also had the wheels spinning out of Clearways at Brands at over 60mph. What other city car would do that? I have had the superchips conversion though http://www.superchips.co.uk/search?make=36&fueltype=2&model=145&variant=1826 Just fitted 205 size tyres on the front, now can put the torque down well without too much wheelspin out of corners. Using the racelogic performance box the times in gear are 30-50 in 3rd - 4.0s 50-70 in 4th - 6.0s I have a 160 bhp Astra diesel as well and that does those in 3.5 and 5.1 but it doesn't actually feel as quick and I only get 40mpg rather than 60. I recommend anyone to get the superchips remap for the Yaris, it turns it into a very quick little a to b car. Still has lag pulling away though :) Andy
  2. The Aygo gearing is ridiculous. It's all to help fuel economy of course but it really blunts acceleration. 2nd will take you to above 60, 3rd to 90. For a car who's top speed is less than 100 that is silly. 5th is geared for 145mph Andy
  3. Jan, you have been great on the Aygo forum over the years. The Picante forum will be very lucky. So the Kia makes people more attractive to girls eh? I must get one ! Or two. All the best. Andy
  4. How about this for a tankful 600 miles and 2 blobs left. And that's after a Superchips conversion that does this http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/Yaris1.4d4d.pdf 30-50 in 3rd gear in 4.0 seconds flat and 70+ mpg, this is a cracking diesel engine. Best over a small distance of 50 miles or so is this http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/mpg.jpg On the latest tankful of juice after 150 miles I am doing 71, that's with a blast up to 70, certainly not 95, on the motorway home tonight. Andy
  5. Yes it is a reflash. In gear figures now BEFORE 3rd and 4th 3rd 30-50 4.7 50-70 6.4 30-70 11.1 4th 30-50 6.7 50-70 6.5 30-70 13.1 AFTER 3rd 30-50 4 50-70 5.1 30-70 9.1 4th 30-50 6 50-70 5.5 30-70 11.5 good gains, you can tell why it feels faster, now you can use 3rd gear up to 70mph for overtaking and get gains. Andy
  6. Well in my 200kg heavier Yaris I can get this Which shows that the Aygo is overgeared and needs the diesel engine. I'm sure it could do 80mpg then in standard driving. As a note, the most I got out of my 67bhp Aygo in 25000 miles was 61mpg. After 2000 miles in my Superchipped Yaris with 112bhp my best is 73mpg over 300 miles. And it's a lot faster. Stick my engine in the Aygo and you would have a cracking car. Range would be about 650 miles. Andy
  7. Yep they are pants. Replace both discs and pads with EBC, the pads the green version and you will not look back. No lipping, no extreme wear and you actually get a lot more bite from touching the pedal, the normal ones are too spongy on first application. Andy
  8. Like Jas's comment I'm confused? Unless you're trying to wind us all up? Both your methods above result in exactly the same thing? The only way to properly work out your mpg is... 1) Fill your tank to the brim, 2) zero your tripometer, 3) drive until you need to refuel (ideally as far as possible to give an accurate reading) 4) Fill your tank to the brim again (remember to hold onto the receipt and note mileage from the trip on it) 5) Divide number of litres by 4.54 to give you number of gallons 6) Divide number of miles driven by number of gallons to get your MPG. e.g 32 litres divided by 4.54 = 7.05 gallons. 400 miles divided by 7.05 = 56.7mpg An even easier way is to enter the info from your receipt into a website that does it all for you, e.g fuelly I also use the free app "Road Trip" Both of these systems have the benefit of allowing you to track your mpg over time & require no maths. Sorry fellas, I should've been clearer (I was speaking what I was thinking!)... what I was saying was that the way I'd been working it in the app was like this: On the day I'd fill up, I would enter my mileage (since last fill up) as well as the figures from today's fill-up (pence per litre, total litres I've put in today). The website was telling me to enter my mileage (since last fill up), coupled with the figures from that last fill up (pence per litre, total litres I put in for that tank), in essence giving an average fuel economy for that stint of fuel, and how many miles I managed to travel on that tank. I've probably confused you all even more now :P anyway... I would sit and work it out with a calculator etc but the app is accurate and just makes the whole thing easier... I think I'd just been using it incorrectly. I averaged 55.9 mpg (55.87 to be precise) on the last tank, managed 462 miles on 37.59 litres of fuel (despite the manual saying the tank is 35 litres... it varies every time). So I think that's probably the way of working it out. The app doesn't obviously make it easier, you are now posting questions about it when you could be doing a calculation of total number of miles driven / gallons used or litres. How simply is that? Andy
  9. Rubbish, stop posting FUD. When the light starts flashing you have about about 4 litres left. There are 2 levels of flashing, when you get really low it flashes faster. If you haven't seen the flashing getting faster then don't worry, just go into the next petrol station, you will be alright. Andy PS I did about 20 miles on the fast flash so on slow flash unless you are ragging it or in a town crawl you will have about 35-45 at least. Andy
  10. The superchips performance increase has not affected the mpg Andy
  11. Hi, Yep they are good cars, the gearbox is jerky 1st to 2nd as it only allows you to change up at 14mph, but they do great fuel ecomomy and with a superchips conversion pull really well in 2nd 3rd and 4th for general driving. Good choice. Andy
  12. Personally given the Aygo seems to be made completely out of parts costing less than £1.99 I think they should charge the cost of the part, ie £1.99. Same with the £1.99 brake discs and £1.99 clutches that seem to need replacing before 20 000 miles too. Maybe that would force them to spend a bit more on them. I am now driving a Yaris and it is a lot better made. As we my old one before it. I loved my Aygo (RIP) but you have to say it is not up to normal Toyota standards apart from the engine. Which is not even from Toyota ;) Andy
  13. Ok, the Yaris has now has a Superchips conversion, you get approximately 20% more power and torque http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/Yaris1.4d4d.pdf Car does feel a lot more nippy now when the boost comes in from the turbo. Using a racelogic datalogger did a 0-60 run, results below http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/chipped.jpg 0-60 down from 11.3 to 10.2s, would have been sub 10 except the guys at superchips seem to have kept the original boost in 1st, perhaps to safeguard clutch and gearbox, which is pretty sensible! I'll get some in gear times early next week. Andy
  14. Hi All, First time post on this forum after getting a 2008 version of the above. Previously I had a 2008 Aygo so I mainly posted on that part of the forum but as I have a new Yaris, due to the Aygo having a slight prang, I am posting here as my new home. Obviously going from a 1.0 naturally aspirated Aygo 3 pot to a Yaris Diesel is a big sea change I am still getting used to, in the Aygo you had to rev the nuts off it, in the Yaris you have to row it along on the torque of course so I am re-adjusting my mind set. Initial positive thoughts about the Yaris? Far far more punchy in gear. Downsides? Where the Yaris is like sitting on a strong but dull Hoover the Aygo was a lot more interesting and fun. A to B car, Yaris all the way, B road blast Aygo trumps the more expensive Yaris. Right, a comparison 0-60, Yaris in the blue corner, Aygo in the red http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/compare.JPG As you can see more or less matched 0-60 but the MMT Yaris has to do one more gearshift which means it loses a second. This is to be expected as the MMT gearbox is designed to be safe rather than quick ( 900ms!!) but even so it looks like the Yaris gearshift has more inbuilt safety than the Aygo, perhaps due to all that torque? Other things of note is that off the line the Aygo stomped away due to some wheelspin, something I didn't get in the Yaris with it's heavier engine. However the Yaris strikes back with linear drive all the way through where the torqueless Aygo wavers on the trace with dips and bobbles as the road I went over was not flat, it had slight gradients and it gets very ragged towards the end where the power drops off. In all though, much more powerful but heavy ( 1100 v 900 ) Yaris is punch for punch matched with the Aygo 0-60mph. Of course the Yaris kills the Aygo in gear. 50-70mph in 5th for the Aygo = 17s, for the Yaris 10s.And gets better fuel figures. It's more for my wife than me though ;) More Yaris performance figures to come. Andy
  15. Awesome. Just want sure if the bigger ET was going to be an issue. That offset is getting marginal, do they do a 35-40 instead? It probably will be ok though. I think the other guy dropping his car 70/80 is also pretty marginal too. Andy
  16. They are Dunlop Direzza 03G and obviously have lots of grip but I won't have them long because they don't last too long of course, are noisy and follow lorry tracks on the road really badly due to the stiff sidewalls. Fun coming to work this morning though through some corners and a B road blast last night, I'll be sticking another of the silver wheels back on this weekend though with the 205/40 Yokohama's on Andy
  17. Hi Dinky. Yes, I have modified the suspension and dampers and wheels and tyres and yes I do sometimes run a half tank of petrol :) You say removing 20kg of weight from under the bonnet doesn't have a great effect on handling, but do you talk from experience? The engine only weighs 60kg so it is the 1/3 the weight of the engine. Not only that but the 10kg battery is really high up, go and look at it in your engine bay. Now not only is it at the back of the car but it is really low down as well. You said "to increase performance you need to factor in a few things, not just weight. firming up the suspension, reducing flex and better tyres will also add to handling which, on corners, wins. for example look at lotus - their cars always have tiny engines but their focus on weight AND chassis/suspension all contribute to the handling." Well I've done all those things suspension wise and now I am losing weight. The latest Lotus Elise has options of air con and cruise control by the way .. pah,american market.... I do agree that eventually you are eeking out nths rather than whole seconds, but if you live in the South east PM me and I will take you for a drive and you can see the difference. Andy
  18. Hi Paul, Long time, glad you are still posting. :) In answer they will rub and the tyre will be too small at 185 to fit 7 inch rims and also will be well over the original rolling circumference. To stop rubbing go for a 6.5inch rim at ET40 or a 7 inch rim at less than ET35. I have the Rota slipstream 6.5x15 ET40 and they are a cheap as chips perfect match for the Aygo and weigh very little, if you want another style I am sure Rota must do it in 6.5. PM me if you want to do more sound boarding. Meanwhile my good wife took out my 16x7 wheels yesterday which do rub and decided to rub them against something more than the car, see top of rim ... just swapped them with the Rota's and Dunlops. Andy
  19. Sorry but I disagree with the posts above and as you haven't tried Aygo's before and after changes you are rather talking from ignorance on the matter, that's not an insult just a comment on that you haven't experienced the change in the car. You obviously just drive A to B, I don't. Firstly I didn't do it for outright fuel economy or performance in straight line. The car does track days and this year a couple of rounds of the Toyota Sprint series as well, therefore it is important to both lose weight and reposition weight to lower the centre of gravity of the car to aid handling and grip. Since losing the 20kg from the front ( 1/3 the weight of the engine) and repositioning the battery down low in the "boot" the turn in rate has improved tremendously, it is far more pointy and understeer has been reduced as the back end comes more into play. It's about 60-70% of PaulT's car now which really does take the Aygo to the limit handling wise (and about 3-5s a lap faster as well), I think you would be amazed if you drove it on the change. The Aygo is set to understeer compared to a Yaris for instance so this counters it's big failing. You'd also be horrified at how noisy and rattly it is, but then you seem to need air con for our super hot UK weather :P. With the loss of weight and improved colder induction I do notice a better kick in 1st/2nd at about 3600rpm also, and no it is not imaginary. It doesn't break your neck of course :D In summary you bought your cars for a different reason, you haven't modified it and therefore are unaware of how much performance you can squeeze out of them handling wise by making modifications. Andy
  20. Yeah it's not as if they are cheap either. Perhaps it is worthwhile asking them not to do the oil and getting some good oil yourself and doing it. Costco sell cheap oil if you are a member. Andy
  21. Everything tends to be smaller or not that robust on the Aygo hence they are not that heavy. Agree with the weight of glove box lid and sound proofing, they were removed because a) one kept falling down due to poor clip design b ) I wanted to hear the engine more :) The bonnet is probably 5-7kg so you could save up to 5kg getting something carbon fibre if they made it. Also it is weight fairly high up so good to lose it Andy
  22. Weight hurts a little bit, but it's the increased rolling resistance which really kills the fuel consumption. The Aygo's economy tyres are designed to offer little resistance and you really notice the increase in consumption with fatter tyres. I guess I probably go down from averaging 55mpg to low 40s with the 185x55 AO48s on mine. Paul. Is that because you are going around a track at the time winning trophies :D Note, Paul dodes not hang around in A048's :) With my 205/40 and 195/45 combo I am still getting 50-55mpg with my planet saving 55mph M25 / A2 crawl to work over a week. To gain performance weight needs to be loss so dumping the spare tyre is a good start. Currently I have dumped the following Spare tyre underbonnet soundproofing glovebox lid air con unit rear seats The air con and rear seats were 20kg in total. Battery has been moved to the boot so that means a loss of about 20kg ( inc air con) from under the bonnet. The car is much faster to turn in now. Andy
  23. PaulT is correct, those are the best wheels, but I am also guessing that people will not want to pay that amount for really light wheels and prefer looks more and a better cost relationship. I currently have 16x7 inch silver wheels on the front with 205/40 and 15x6.5 inch black wheels on the back (don't ask). The 16 inch look better and give loads of grip due to wide tyre but a) They rub slightly on full lock ( offset 36). b ) They are heavy c) The 40 section tyre is harsh comfort wise ( Eiback springs and Koni sports shocks on softest setting front). The black wheels are Rota Slipstream which are fairly light for a cast wheel at about 5.4kg. Pauls CN28's are about 3.7kg I seem to recall and most generic 16 inch wheels will be 7-8kg. I think the 15x6.5 wheel with 195/45 is the way to go. Andy PS 15 inch wheels make the tyres look wider, so from the front the car looks more chunky, the 16 inch wheels look better from the side.
  24. If you are driving it normally or drive it to get good mpg then 5w/30 will be fine, the only reason Toyota put 0w/20 in is because it was a marketing thing to say they improved the engine various ways when one of the ways was simply putting in thinner oil... hmmm. It's hardly a stressed engine is it with redline around 6500 and 67bhp from 1 litre! Also, 0w/20 as mentioned above does not give a good temp range compared to some 0w oils so I think it is probably actually quite cheap, but thin .. typical Aygo cost cutting. I put Mobil1 0w/40 in mine so if you are worried then change it to that. Andy
  25. I would imagine an 850kg Aygo would have less momementum than your heavy huge car ;). Quick calulation is that you car has more momentum at 60 mph than the Aygo has at it's top speed of 96mph. Considering an Aygo driven "hard" accelerates to 0mph in about 12 seconds I think you need to get things in perspective. Andy
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