Ancient Nerd

Never reply from memory. I think I confused this with another post. This sounds a lot like the same problem. And why can we no longer edit posts? So my dealer's service manager was almost certainly correct (he did say that it was probably the piston rings) . It looks as though both generations can get the same problem. However our car was out of warranty, so on balance the cost of a few gallons of oil turned out a lot cheaper than the repairs would have been. What really impresses me is how well the cat managed to dispose of so much burnt oil, so cleanly, and for so long. This was at least half a litre of oil every thousand miles, and carried on for almost three years and 70 to 80 thousand miles. In pre-cat days, that would have been a lot of smoke

At somewhere not too long over 100k miles, my old Gen2 (by then in the hands of another family member) started using a lot of oil, several litres between services. There was no sign of an oil leak, and with that volume of oil it would have been very obvious. So my conclusion was that the oil was being burnt. It went through several services and MOTs without problem The service manager at my Norwich dealer agreed that the oil was being burnt, and that major work would be needed to fix it. We decided that the best approach would be to suck it and see. If the cat failed, then something would have to be done. In the end, 2 1/2 years, several services, and many buckets of oil later, the car was still smoke free when part exchanged at 185k miles. Based on this experience, i find it hard to imagine what could have caused the smoke described by the OP.

Perhaps linked to the pedestrian identification camera of the autonomous braking system?

At least it is restricted to whole words. The forum of an airline site I used a lot, a few years ago, caused real problems to a regular from S$%&^(*)Ihorpe. Edit: Apparently he would have had problems on this site too.

I understand that the sounder must be carried by a person walking in front and carrying a red flag. 😁

Before doing anything else, check the 12 volt battery isn't knackered. This can cause all manner of weird electrical problems if low on charge. If it is this, then it is a relatively cheap fix. It is most likely to be the cause if the battery is over five years old, if you do a lot of short journeys, or have let the battery get fully discharged (lights left on, holiday parking etc.). It may also be worth trying another dealer. Some are a lot better than others. Good luck

Many thanks for that URL. I don't usually bother with blocking, but these ones are far too obtrusive.

As I have over four years to go until my car qualifies for this offer, I have the horrors at having this seriously intrusive advert appearing so regularly, and occupying over half the screen area on my phone. I realise that some ads are necessary to support the site, but this is overkill. I think that I am probably going to have to investigate adblockers a lot more seriously

I would happily give you further feedback, especially as my original information was probably meaningless. The car gives very little useful information for the PHV Prius, because you cannot usefully separate mpg and miles/kWh. However King's Cross is not an option for me. I very much look forward to the results if you can properly address the PHV issues. I actually have some fairly extensive fuel/electricity usage information for the Plug-in, although correlating daily electricity usage with the figures provided by the car is an interesting exercise.

Keith, Are you still using the original wiper blades? If so the rubber will have deteriorated over nearly three years. The rubber is almost always the problem. I had no problems with my Gen 4, but replaced the rubbers after around 18 months. I used refills from Toyota, supplied by Parts King as my local dealer doesn't keep them in stock. These were expensive, but better that the complete blades, which were a silly price. I am amazed that it has taken this long for Toyota to move to flat blades. I have usually ended up with problems using the old style blades, but never with flat types that I've used since having them as original fittings on a 2006 Honda Civic. I've mostly used the Bosch Aerotwin (good), but also one set of Honda blades (very good) and one set of cheap blades (rubbish - worked, but corroded). However, I don't know what the availability is like from third party suppliers, as they don't seem to have a standard fitting.

Is https://www.amazon.co.uk/EV-Charging-cable-meters-Type1/dp/B00YTWWYAO/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?adgrpid=64235148922&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsOaH796E4gIVSLDtCh1_YQGOEAAYAiAAEgIBr_D_BwE&hvadid=314035094071&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9045080&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t2&hvqmt=b&hvrand=17445462539473586916&hvtargid=kwd-317780446457&hydadcr=39_1867856&keywords=type+1+to+type+2+charging+cable&qid=1557071452&quartzVehicle=72-1783&replacementKeywords=type+1+to+type+charging+cable&s=gateway&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1 the sort of thing you are after? A Google search should come up with plenty of alternatives. I have no direct experience, as I have the current PHV with type 2 plug. I'm sure that if you contact a seller, they will confirm suitability. If they won't give you an answer, then that should tell you to look elsewhere. Cables are not cheap, and there is a lot of price variation, so research it well.

Gen 4 PHEV starts by default in EV mode. The ICE mostly, but not always, starts if you set demist mode, but not otherwise. I have usually got around 20 miles without the ICE starting when it is cold. On warmer days, this has gone over 30 miles. I never switch the aircon off, and usually have the temperature set to 21°C. I'm sure that the range could be improved, but I value my comfort too much. I don't think the same applies to the Gen 3 PHEV, as I think that requires the ICE for heating.

Don't forget the Gen 2 and Gen 3 Prius have the battery in the passenger space. You really don't want a conventional lead acid battery emptying battery acid in the event of a crash. It is well worth the extra cost of the AGM battery to prevent this.

OK Karim, I'll try to put a detailed description together. It may take a day or two. If you can create something that generates useful and compatible information for both petrol and electrical usage, for existing cars, it will be very much appreciated.

Completed, but has the look of Toyota GB, in that the fuel consumption is meaningful for the standard Prius, but irrelevant for the plug-in, where useable kWh information is only available from the charger. As with the long ago weasel warranty, I suspect that new owners will (might) gain, but existing owners will be ignored.