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  1. Ah! That's interesting. My car has been dealer serviced from new and has had all health checks. P
  2. Thanks All, Just to confirm, in 7 years of ownership I'm well used to the reduced range in winter that returns to normal in summer, and I'm basing my comments on actual distance covered on a charge- the range display tries its best but often gives nonsensical estimates. My 15 miles in Summer, 13.5 in winter was a regular occurrence till last summer, aged 6 years, which is when I started to notice the reducing range whilst the weather was still warm, worsening over the winter and not improving now we have a warm February. I'm just hoping my battery dies completely in advance of its 8 year warranty running out. Pete
  3. Hi When new my 2012 Plug in would do near to the quoted 15.5 miles on a charge. In particular, my regular 13.2 mile trip was always possible with electricity to spare. These days I'm getting only 8 or so miles on a full charge, and even driving very carefully I can't complete my regular trip. At the recent service I asked about getting the battery replaced under the 8 year warranty. I was told firmly that the car had passed its annual hybrid system check, so the battery is fine. No amount of remonstrating would persuade them the battery is not fine. I gather the hybrid system check measures the voltage and internal resistance of each cell and compares it with all the other cells, which would obviously highlight one failing cell, but it does not include a discharge and charge test to measure the battery's actual capacity. If all your cells deteriorate at the same rate the test will be passed. I argued further with the dealer, and they agreed to ring Toyota and get back to me. Apparently Toyota said the same- failing the hybrid system check is their only criterion for allowing battery replacement under warranty. I'm really upset by Toyota and their dealer's attitude- "We're telling you your battery is fine so you telling us your car won't go as far as it used to must be wrong". When purchasing my car, I carefully worked out if the cost premium over a standard Prius was worth it on the basis of fuel costs saved over the 8 years the battery was guaranteed for, assuming I managed 2 charges per day. The benefit was marginal, but fascinated by the then new technology I went ahead anyway. The present state of the battery not only messes up my calculations but the car is reaching the point where I find it's hardly worth the bother of plugging it in- the petrol engine running its warm up cycle in the last few miles of the regular trip uses a disproportionate amount of fuel. Does anyone else here have any experience of plug in battery problems and of persuading Toyota to replace them under warranty? Thanks Pete
  4. Hi i need roof bars for my 2012 Prius plug in. Are there any any cheaper than the genuine Toyota or Thule ones? is it necessary to cut away the black plastic strips on the roof? Can they be taken on and off quickly and easily? thanks Pete
  5. ....brake callipers fouling......
  6. Btw the rolling diameter and wheel offset are the same, and, unless things have changed recently, all gen3 Priora have the same hubs and brakes so there should be no issue with rake calliper a fouling the smaller wheels.
  7. Hi Jerry. I changed from a t spirit to a plug in, going from 17 to 15 inch wheels in the process. The 17's look nicer, but the 15's are better in every other respect. The ride is better, there is less tyre noise, it uses 5% less fuel when I don't plug in (obviously plugging in and charging the battery makes a whole different comparison), and, sporty drivers wake up to this, the car is faster- it accelerates as though it has had its lead boots taken off, despite being 40 kg heavier. (I know the published figures say otherwise but I'm convinced that manufacturers publish generic rather than wheel specific figures to avoid drawing attention to the fact that customers buying big sporty wheels end up with a slower car) When buying my original t spirit in 2009 I considered the solar roof and was told that car came with smaller wheels and no spare because bigger wheels and a spare would put the car in to a weight category for which it was not type approved. They may now have type approval, or they may have found a way to make the solar roof gubbins lighter. Either way it isn't your problem. Having purchased the car, if you want to buy a spare wheel and keep it like any other luggage in the car you can. I believe the spare wheel well is a handy place for spare wheel shaped luggage. the only other consideration is that insurers demand that you tell them if your car is fitted with non standard wheels, so you do need from Toyota confirmation that your wheels are standard if you decide to keep them. All the best Pete
  8. "The car only has three wheels"........ ........"We didn't advertise it with four wheels, and that is reflected in the price" Is it just me, or is there a slight problem with that argument?
  9. Interesting. My July 2012 plug in is little older than a newly registered one. One of my concerns with my car is that if the new model plug in has a 25 mile ev range, my car will suddenly be a dinosaur, but at least I'll have had a good 3 years use out of it. I'd be wary of buying a new one now for that reason, quite apart from the age issue. Pete
  10. Suggestion: Just go to display settings and TURN OFF the left hand section of the dashboard display. It took me five years of ownership to realise, but sparing yourself the cognitive effort of monitoring what the car is up to is really liberating. Furthermore, and really surprisingly, my fuel economy improved fractionally. Pete
  11. Add to your list less tyre noise, and get rid of the squeaks and rattles, and it would be an Audi A4/BMW 3 series/Mercedes C-Class beater. It would also need a bit more power to match the larger engined variants of the above. Pete
  12. I bought a PIP but only after negotiating £4300 off the price. Having sorted a price similar to those quoted above for the rest of Europe, it seemed a fair deal. I have to say, it really is a much nicer car than the T-Spirit it replaced, mainly on account of being able to whoosh around in silence for a greater proportion of the journey and at higher speeds. Pete
  13. Agree with above comments re pressure- you don't mention if you have checked the pressures, but if under inflated even slightly the steering feels heavy and consumption goes up. Some mpg enthusiasts inflate above the manufacturer's recommended pressure which gives a slight gain in consumption at the expense of a jiggly ride
  14. Alan, thanks, I'll stick with 36 litres then.
  15. "other than weight, physical size, and re-chargeability..." I'd say exactly because of weight, physical size and re-chargeability. Not to mention price and longevity. The plug in inherits the convenience of the same battery algorithm in hybrid mode, while actually using up the ev charge on most journeys. I think the next big advance might be to integrate the battery control algorithm with the satnav. For a given journey the car could then plan where the ev charge could be deployed to greatest advantage, and ensure the car reaches journey's end with both ev and hv batteries empty. Having to set the satnav for familiar journeys just to help the battery management would need a bit of driver re education, though. Pete