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Peter2673 last won the day on March 28 2014

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  1. I first read your post as saying that the battery has failed or is failing. On re reading it, you may be just asking about the length of warranty. Perhaps you should clarify, but if the battery is still working then I think you should just stop worrying and let your lucky son in law enjoy the fact that many Priuses go on for 200 or 300K. Worst case scenario if the battery does fail is that you buy a new one- Any vehicle that's done over 100K is going to land you with a repair bill now and then, and the several hundred pounds (or dollars) cost of a new battery is less than the repair bills that many other vehicles will throw up. You can also find second hand ones from scrapped vehicles Pete.
  2. I’ve just been looking at the Toyota website – as far as I can see it does not yet have detail and specification for the 2019 update. Can anyone post a link that will take me to some more information? Thanks Pete
  3. Oh Wow! Thanks for telling me that. Just the small boot then?
  4. Interesting. The acid test would be to repeat the journey in normal mode. If your 4 plug in charges give you about 130 miles, the remaining 90 miles might use less than 5.8 litres in normal mode, but you'll have to try it and see. My post above didn't intend to detract from the fun of playing with the car's toys- I went through that phase when mine was new, but I drive in lots of traffic and don't have a regular commute to get bored with. I just wanted to say that there's a different kind of driving pleasure in keeping everything simple and relaxed, and the fuel consumption when doing so will be a pleasant surprise.
  5. £1200+ to change!!!! I can see everyone will be going for that. Seriously, though, Toyota should note this. I'd love to upgrade my 2012 Plug in Prius, and I was wavering over whether I could cope with the smaller boot and only 4 seats, but what really put me off was the white bits of trim- they are really horrid. Pete
  6. Charge mode is entirely for future legislation in this country, or present legislation in other countries, which forbids exhaust emissions in certain city areas- you use it to charge up before you enter. It will always have a detrimental effect on overall fuel consumption- sending power from petrol engine to wheels is more efficient than sending it from petrol engine, to generator to inverter to battery from battery to inverter to motor to wheels. New Prius owners always want to understand how it works and drive to beat the Toyota default. After about three months it dawns on you- you can't. Just go to the dashboard settings, switch off every bit of dashboard display you can, then sit back, relax, and concentrate on the steering wheel, accelerator and brake (and that little lever that tells it whether to go forwards or backwards is sometimes useful too). Doing this, I guarantee you'll get better consumption than by any special driving technique or trick use of the car's various modes. Enjoy your new car Pete
  7. Ah! That's interesting. My car has been dealer serviced from new and has had all health checks. P
  8. Thanks All, Just to confirm, in 7 years of ownership I'm well used to the reduced range in winter that returns to normal in summer, and I'm basing my comments on actual distance covered on a charge- the range display tries its best but often gives nonsensical estimates. My 15 miles in Summer, 13.5 in winter was a regular occurrence till last summer, aged 6 years, which is when I started to notice the reducing range whilst the weather was still warm, worsening over the winter and not improving now we have a warm February. I'm just hoping my battery dies completely in advance of its 8 year warranty running out. Pete
  9. Hi When new my 2012 Plug in would do near to the quoted 15.5 miles on a charge. In particular, my regular 13.2 mile trip was always possible with electricity to spare. These days I'm getting only 8 or so miles on a full charge, and even driving very carefully I can't complete my regular trip. At the recent service I asked about getting the battery replaced under the 8 year warranty. I was told firmly that the car had passed its annual hybrid system check, so the battery is fine. No amount of remonstrating would persuade them the battery is not fine. I gather the hybrid system check measures the voltage and internal resistance of each cell and compares it with all the other cells, which would obviously highlight one failing cell, but it does not include a discharge and charge test to measure the battery's actual capacity. If all your cells deteriorate at the same rate the test will be passed. I argued further with the dealer, and they agreed to ring Toyota and get back to me. Apparently Toyota said the same- failing the hybrid system check is their only criterion for allowing battery replacement under warranty. I'm really upset by Toyota and their dealer's attitude- "We're telling you your battery is fine so you telling us your car won't go as far as it used to must be wrong". When purchasing my car, I carefully worked out if the cost premium over a standard Prius was worth it on the basis of fuel costs saved over the 8 years the battery was guaranteed for, assuming I managed 2 charges per day. The benefit was marginal, but fascinated by the then new technology I went ahead anyway. The present state of the battery not only messes up my calculations but the car is reaching the point where I find it's hardly worth the bother of plugging it in- the petrol engine running its warm up cycle in the last few miles of the regular trip uses a disproportionate amount of fuel. Does anyone else here have any experience of plug in battery problems and of persuading Toyota to replace them under warranty? Thanks Pete
  10. Hi i need roof bars for my 2012 Prius plug in. Are there any any cheaper than the genuine Toyota or Thule ones? is it necessary to cut away the black plastic strips on the roof? Can they be taken on and off quickly and easily? thanks Pete
  11. ....brake callipers fouling......
  12. Btw the rolling diameter and wheel offset are the same, and, unless things have changed recently, all gen3 Priora have the same hubs and brakes so there should be no issue with rake calliper a fouling the smaller wheels.
  13. Hi Jerry. I changed from a t spirit to a plug in, going from 17 to 15 inch wheels in the process. The 17's look nicer, but the 15's are better in every other respect. The ride is better, there is less tyre noise, it uses 5% less fuel when I don't plug in (obviously plugging in and charging the battery makes a whole different comparison), and, sporty drivers wake up to this, the car is faster- it accelerates as though it has had its lead boots taken off, despite being 40 kg heavier. (I know the published figures say otherwise but I'm convinced that manufacturers publish generic rather than wheel specific figures to avoid drawing attention to the fact that customers buying big sporty wheels end up with a slower car) When buying my original t spirit in 2009 I considered the solar roof and was told that car came with smaller wheels and no spare because bigger wheels and a spare would put the car in to a weight category for which it was not type approved. They may now have type approval, or they may have found a way to make the solar roof gubbins lighter. Either way it isn't your problem. Having purchased the car, if you want to buy a spare wheel and keep it like any other luggage in the car you can. I believe the spare wheel well is a handy place for spare wheel shaped luggage. the only other consideration is that insurers demand that you tell them if your car is fitted with non standard wheels, so you do need from Toyota confirmation that your wheels are standard if you decide to keep them. All the best Pete
  14. "The car only has three wheels"........ ........"We didn't advertise it with four wheels, and that is reflected in the price" Is it just me, or is there a slight problem with that argument?
  15. Interesting. My July 2012 plug in is little older than a newly registered one. One of my concerns with my car is that if the new model plug in has a 25 mile ev range, my car will suddenly be a dinosaur, but at least I'll have had a good 3 years use out of it. I'd be wary of buying a new one now for that reason, quite apart from the age issue. Pete