After a lot of umming and ahhrring we went for Thule, yes, but a different model. This one... http://www2.thule.com/Thule/ProductPage____44303.aspx It folds up when not in use. It hasn't had what I would describe as extensive use yet, but I took my son's bike on a couple of 2hr trips down to Uni in Devon from Dorset, and there was no windage noise, no movement, no wear of parts and complete visibility of the lights, so no silly lighting bar. We used to have an ali one made by Fiamma for a Sharan, and by comparison, this steel one is heavier, but it still hangs nicely in the garage after use, and is easily fitted by one person, with some good quality large plastic pads to spread the load. Atm, I would say "recommended". Pop Thanks Pop for replying, sorry for the delay. I will have a look at your suggestion, Thule certainly is a good brand. Further news if and when I make a decision! Matthew