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  1. Cheers :) Obviously prefer TOP T-Spirit with Navigation Pack - but looks like those are rare :( What is downside of Gen 2 tech? Cheers :) Obviously prefer TOP T-Spirit with Navigation Pack - but looks like those are rare :( What is downside of Gen 2 tech? The original Auris HSD uses gen3 Prius tech - ie 1.8 engine etc. In fact it is pretty much almost identical to the Prius tech. That is a good thing. The only downsides to the original Auris HSD is the small boot due to the batteries and the gear shift is set up for LHD, and it's a bit smaller inside. You can find them cheaply but not because there's anything wrong as such, it was just not the best looking car in the world - though of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If an early Auris HSD ticks your boxes and is within budget, then get one. BUT do make sure it has a full service history - preferably Toyota and that 0w20 oil was used as this gives best economy. Also, if you get one and it wasn't last serviced by Toyota get a Hybrid Health Check done. It will give you extra peace of mind. It costs about £40 or is included in a Toyota dealer service. Well worthwhile. https://www.toyota.co.uk/caring-for-your-toyota/service-and-maintenance/hybrid-health-check.json
  2. Hmmmm. In some ways it's an improvement, yet in some ways it looks cheaper. I guess I'll have to see one in the metal. To be fair, I didn't like the gen3 until I got to look around one and then I love it. The interior was something else back then. The gen4 interior just seems a bit 'average'. It's nothing special or out of the norm like the gen3 was back in 2009. Now the Mirai's interior. That's nice. (only the interior - not the outside, which is a dogs dinner).
  3. And the Hybrid Health Check is free if you get the car serviced by Toyota. That covers the expensive HV battery.
  4. .... he's gone over to the dark side and bought a Nissan Leaf EV. And still happy with it. Build quality isn't as good as Toyota though, just. It rattles and creaks like the Prius did and you're even more likely to hear it with no engine at 60 mph. I miss my Toyota dealer too as they were spot on. Shame Toyota have gone to the dark side that is hydrogen as that is just a fool's errand. Just look at the facts on the whole way of processing the fuel, the massively expensive fuel cell etc. They'd be better with a plug in with a petrol engine. I hope the specs of the gen4 are worthy of reporting and if the PIP has a 30 mile range AND is not over priced again, then Toyota 'may' make up some lost ground. Just look how well the ugly Outlander PHEV is selling! Toyota could have had that market if they hadn't ****ed up release and pricing of the PIP. I'm looking foward to the 150 mile range Leaf due out next year. I also like the fact that my old Leaf can be updated with the newer batter pack(s) to give me longer range - obviously if I pay for it :) There are UK companies increasing range by 50% or 100% for £3k & £5k respectively - with warranty. I'm loving totally petrol free motoring. Never, ever having to cast an eye at the price board every time you pass a petrol station. I only recently found out that diesel is now cheaper. Wtf is going on with that?
  5. I'd be pondering inverter coolant pump failure. When my inverter went pop it barely gave any symptoms. About a month before it failed I was speeding down a hill in Power mode and hard on the brakes for the roundabout at the bottom. Halfway down there was a very loud high pitched noise - similar to the normal high pitched noise some hear when a Prius normally brakes, but this was loud enough to be heard over the music. It lasted about 5 seconds. The car worked fine for a month after that. Then I had just come down that same stretch of road, at 10.30 pm, hard on the brakes, round the roundabout, 300 yards and then I attempted to overtake a hgv. Popped it into Power mode, floored it, got halfway past hgv and nothing - dash lit up, power went totally, steering and brakes worked so I slowed down, pulled over and the car would crawl on electric to a safe place. Turned out the inverter had gone pop - fried inside. One of the transistors (or whatever it is - there are about 3 I think) had melted - hence I could crawl on electric but the engine wouldn't fire up. But this has since been discovered to be a problem and Toyota have since restricted power in Power mode and cars were either recalled or had it done at service time depending where in the World you live. Not a known issue on a PIP but seeing as the OP stated the 12v was in the front when any owner would know that that is not the case, I'm not going to speculate on their 'fault' further.
  6. I had a problem with this on my Prius. I believe there's some weak spot on the easrlier gen3 t3 (not the t4 or t-spirit) and I had my steering column replaced twice! at roughly 30k mile intervals, both under warranty. I believe this 'issue' was updated on later gen3's. The OP could try and appeal to Toyotas kind nature if they're out of warranty, though if they're only just a couple hundred miles over they may be ok, otherwise they'll need to have purchased the car new and had it religiously serviced by a Toyota dealer. I had my inverter replaced out of warranty at 70k miles (on the 60k mile warranty) because I had done both. Many main dealers will price match for servicing (within reason), but if you've gone elsewhere for servicing to save a couple o' quid, then chances are they draw the warranty line at 60k. Good luck.
  7. I apologise if we came across as patronising, it wasn't meant to be. We are all just trying to pass on what we have learned and bust a myth or two as we go. Joseph. And also because we get many new owners who ask for help, yet also tell how the car should be driven, often without searching historical threads on the very same question being asked. Joseph gets incredible mpg's out of a bigger car that makes mid 60's to the gallon look average. I have managed high 80's and very low 90's to the gallon out of my Prius when trying very hard over tens of miles. I haven't a clue how to pulse and glide, yet I was doing something right. We Brits need to chill out and listen to those with more experience without immediately assuming they're being insulted or patronised. I was trying to help.
  8. And in 1910 they probably said the same about petrol cars. I mean, you'd need a petrol station or five in every town, filling up with billions upon billions of litres of prehistoric and finite fuel. That could never happen, imagine the infrastructure required. And electric cars are mainly only for local trips at the moment with 100 mile ranges. Once it gets to 200 miles (2017 Nissan Leaf), they'd barely need to visit a public charge point unless petrol cars which HAVE to fill up at a petrol station. It's just getting your head round it. There are always hundreds of cars filling up at any one time in every town as that's the only place they can get their fuel. With an EV you fill up at home every night for pennies, but should you be likely to exceed the 200 miles range then you have a need to fill up publically. Few cars need to travel those distances. A 200 mile range also falls nicely into the sort of distance you can manage before you need a toilet break. One benefit of a petrol car is it can be filled in 5 minutes, assuming you don't include the actual time driving out of your way there and back out. The down side is it costs £45-£90 a time. A 200 mile EV would cost £4-£5 but would take about 30 minutes. Just look at the speed of the Tesla superchargers. They get it. Horses for courses. You want the perceived speed and long distance flexibility of petrol/diesel, then fine, but you will pay a couple thousand of £'s a year to travel 15,000 miles a year. If your trips are within 70-80 miles between charging or you don't mind a small inconvenience of waiting to fast charge on the few occassions you need it, and the 20 seconds it takes every evening to connect your car. It also costs you a could hundred £ a year for 15,000 miles a year. And that's before we get onto the subject of where the oil we use comes from. The UK is 60% self sufficient in oil. The remaining oil comes from some nice countries like Norway, but much comes from crappo countries that hate our way of life. There's room for everyone.
  9. Classic new owner mistake/misunderstanding. You really do NOT want to encourage a hybrid car to stay on electric longer than it would want or normally do. It's counterintuitive as you see you're getting 100+mpg on the gauge and think that's good - and it is until you realise that the car then has to work much harder charging the battery to put that charge back in, reducing fuel economy further overall. So that 60 mpg you're getting and thinking is good, could easily have been 75/80 mpg. There are so many threads about this in this forum and others. There are two little phrases I used for the Prius to explain to others; "Just because you don't understand how it works, doesn't mean it doesn't" "It's a petrol car with electric ASSISTANCE, not an electric car with petrol assistance" But we come on this forum to learn, so any questions then do ask.
  10. I wonder if the Yaris HSD is different but with the Prius you can press Park whilst driving and it'll just beep at you and drop into Neutral, well unless you're going less than about 5 or 7 mph and which point it engages it with a bang ;) Good practice is to stop. I never really used the Park button as the car automatically dropped into Park when you switched it off. Again I think the Yaris HSD is different.
  11. Will it? I'd say the interior of the gen3 was equal or larger than the Avensis.
  12. Guesses, but pretty good ones I'd say. I think Toyota are trying to make their new cars fugly to match the Mirai - note gaping gill style at the front. I hope it doesn't sweep down as much at the rear as those pictures indicate as the back seats will only be of use to children. I'm no longer in the taxi game, but you'll all have noticed how many companies use the Prius as a cab. One of the main reasons other than fabulous fuel economy is the massive rear leg and head room. If they lose that, they'll lose sales. Peugeot had the taxi market covered with their 406 and 407's, but totally ruined it with low rear doors and no head room. Appreciate not everyone who buys a Prius is a taxi driver :) But if you've been to London, Barcelona, New York or San Francisco lately, you'll realise they make up a huge number of owners, and how many Prii have been sold on the back of them being reliable for taxi drivers, then they must be ok? Or maybe it was deliberate by Toyota to avoid the bad rep?
  13. One or two, and a few more issues with the rear hatch not fully closing. But a 10 year old Prius with issues reflective of a 12v failure would suggest that it is at least checked first. Then we can look at potential water incress into the interior light/sunglasses compartment - assuming they person comes back :)
  14. I would seriously suggest you check the health of your 12v battery - especially if it's the original. I have never heard of alarm issues on a Prius caused by wifi or bluetooth, but I have heard probably hundreds of reports of Prius alarms going off when the 12v is failing. They generally last 5 years or 80k miles. I'd guess you're on your second 12v if you have a 2005. Don't rely on the car telling you it's ok and don't rely on most dealers telling you either as generally they rely on the car. There are tens of threads on here about failing 12 volts with details of how to check.
  15. I always though they'd just lower the goalposts; 0-50 = £free, 50-75, £20, 75-100 £30, 100-110 £100, 110-120 £120 etc. But I'll still be ok and I'm loving the Leaf. Mrs Cabbie loves it too. She says that when it accelerates at the lights it's like taking off on a plane. You even get the little whine of the motor. You really are thrown back in the seat when you floor it. Not bad for a small, family hatchback. I do wonder how the new car tax regime will affect the Toyota hybrids. Car tax isn't the end of the world compared to fuel costs, but it is a regular out going and something else extra to budget for. With our two Toyotas only costing £20 a year in total, it was insignificant. If we bought those cars new in 2017 they'd cost us £280 a year with is. Now if Toyota had a truely zero emission and affordable option..... :)
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