Thank you for the welcome anchorman, if I am successful you will see my daughter here quite frequently as she is involved with her cars, (there is a lot of boy racer in her). That would be the problem with the Daihatsu Terios SX, it lacks image, her present saxo is black, tinted windows, lowered suspension, flared arches with wide white OZZ alloys, see pic attached. I do not doubt that the RAV would get similar love and attention but she would be inclined to agree with Clarkson's summing up of the Daihatsu, not very interesting and lets get to the pub. Thank you for the info about the 1.8 not being 4 wheel drive, as it is the snow conditions in the country lanes that motivates the RAV interest. The model in mind would be the 4.1 as it is funkier, the 4.2 is a nice looking car but maybe a bit more staid, at a pinch the diesel bonnet scoop could do the trick if that is the better car. Oh and yes I will be contributing to the cost........again! Dennis.