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#1 Mike Williams

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 05:03 PM

I need some help with the gear ratio's on the VVTL-i 6 speed box.

As far as I knew the gear ratios were:-

1st 3.166
2nd 2.050
3rd 1.481
4th 1.166
5th 0.916
6th 0.725
Reverse 3.250
Differential Ratio 4.529

Does anyone know if they did a 6 speed box which had longer ratio gears? Perhaps on another model car?
I've swapped a box due to a fault and the ratios do not appear the same??

Was the VVT-i a 6 speed box? Did that have longer ratios due to the lower rev limit?

Thanks for any help.

Mike

#2 Scarlett Arrow

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 05:42 PM

Yes to your last two questions Mike.

#3 Mike Williams

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 05:55 PM

Yes to your last two questions Mike.


Thanks for that, that might explain what's happened.

Does anyone have figures for the ratios of the VVT-i 140 gearbox?

Thanks,

Mike

#4 Mike Williams

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:54 PM

Yes to your last two questions Mike.


Thanks for that, that might explain what's happened.

Does anyone have figures for the ratios of the VVT-i 140 gearbox?

Thanks,

Mike


I've managed to get the VVT-i gearbox ratios:-

Final Drive 4.31:1
1st Gear Ratio 3.17:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.9:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.31:1
4th Gear Ratio 1.03:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.86:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.73:1

As opposed to the VVTL-i gear ratios:-

Final Drive 4.53:1
1st Gear Ratio 3.17:1
2nd Gear Ratio 2.05:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.48:1
4th Gear Ratio 1.17:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.92:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.82:1


As you can see, the internals of these boxes are completly different.

I really need help with knowing what boxes went in which car. Can someone confirm all Celica VVT-i cars had the top set of ratios and that the Celica VVTL-i had the bottom set of ratios??

Thanks,

Mike

#5 Mike Williams

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 02:10 PM

Problem solved, or not as it may be as the gearbox IS incorrect and it's another £500 labour to swap it over!

After much reading and phone calls, the Celica VVT-i 140 uses the C63 gearbox with the longer ratios, the Celica VVTL-i 190 uses the C64 gearbox with a completly different set of internals and ratios.

Thanks to Scarlet Arrow for pointing me in the right direction.

Mike

#6 Scarlett Arrow

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 04:08 PM

That's a pleasure Mike. As we're near neighbours, give my a shout if you need any more Gen 7 related help :)




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