Just Ordered Power Chip !

[Cyker]

Thanks for the lessons in engine management; Most enlightening :D

Who says ToC isn't educational?!

[halfalife]

Awesome !

Buy one.

Hey Kingo...can I get some commission if you get a sales spike !!!!

Hi everyone, I've just ordered a power chip kit from Lindop for my d4d XTR after reading various threads on here. I thought I'd give myself an early xmas pressie. I will let you know how I get on and the results I find.

[local hero]

Awesome !

Buy one.

Hey Kingo...can I get some commission if you get a sales spike !!!!

Hey Halfalife if you get commission , I should get a free rav, ive been praising them for 2 yrs :D :D

Give me a little more time to fully assess my twin exhaust, but so far its phenominal

[Parts-King]

Hey Kingo...can I get some commission if you get a sales spike !!!!

The commission you get is a huge grin on yer face when putting your foot to the floor

Kingo

[RCT Bart 1979]

for the K&N filter i can say that i like the noise and that i never have to buy a new airfilter again for this car...

that was my main reason ( oh and that my original airfilter at the time was dirty as hell )

[RAV4Len]

I get a lot of induction roar when I put it under load - is this standard or a panel filter?

This chip you all talk about, is it just a cheap resistor or a digital tuning box with selectable output?

Why is it not possible to map the ECU?

Sorry about so many questions......

[Davrav]

I get a lot of induction roar when I put it under load - is this standard or a panel filter?

This chip you all talk about, is it just a cheap resistor or a digital tuning box with selectable output?

Why is it not possible to map the ECU?

Sorry about so many questions......

The 'Chip' is a unit specifically designed for the D4D and available from Kingo. It is highly regarded by those who have one. The ECU cannot be re-mapped apparently.

Local Hero [when he's finished searching for bikini clad young ladies stuck in the mud], or Big Kev, are both able to give you the SP on the benefits.

[local hero]

I get a lot of induction roar when I put it under load - is this standard or a panel filter?

This chip you all talk about, is it just a cheap resistor or a digital tuning box with selectable output?

Why is it not possible to map the ECU?

Sorry about so many questions......

Len, I have answered questions so often on this topic i feel i am going around in circles, there are many tuning boxes out there ranging from £99 on fleabay to £1000 for a TTE approved chip, I have now had one of Kingo's "chips" under £400 fitted to my 136bhp rav + I endorse it fully It gives you about 165 bhp which you will feel immediately, it has been totaly faultless and has been on my car for 17000mls + 3yrs, Kingo is better at explaining how it works all i can say is it does, apparently the Denso ecu is tamperproof, so cannot be re-mapped, on the 136bhp version this chip has selectable output however I have never altered mine as it seems to give a nice mix of power + economy, As to K+N filters there are direct replacement panel filters, which i tried but found no noticeable gains + my wife was unimpressed by the whistling noise, Then there are K+N Typhoon filters which i have no knowledge of, but seem to replace the whole std airbox set -up these supposedly can gain you an extra 10bhp I hope this helps you, for more info do a search or have a look at a company called TUNIT who are full of info about "chips" and why they work with a very good FAQ section, I chose Kingo Lindop Toyota for mine,because my rav was virtually new and i wanted it supplied + fitted by someone who knows my vehicle, i have not regretted that decision, if you have any specific questions i will be glad to answer if i am able Stew

[Roadwrangler]

Also in my experience many people seem to think that the tweeks that may work on a petrol engine can be used similarly on a diesel engine - nothing could be farther from the truth.

But hey - sure K&N have gotta make a living and if it rocks your boat - go for it.:)

Modern diesels are closer than you think to petrol engines from a tuning point of view, CRD or Common Rail Diesel is basically 20 year old Multi Point EFi as fitted to petrol engines from the late 80's, ok its been revamped for modern diesels but the principles are the same, shared fuel rail and individual electronic injectors. Increase boost and fuel injection volume slightly = more power, more efficient intercooling = more power just like on a petrol engine, only difference being the diesel achieves this at approx half the revs of the pertol engine.

K&N filters are good, but its the air box and pluming that generally cause the restrictions to air flow, I've not followed the air intake plumbing to the intake point on my car, I'm guessing it sucks air from the hightest point in the wheel arch behind splash pannels, or possibly from behind a head light? either way, if that intake duct was re-located to a point behind the grill etc which would cause a ram air effect then that would do more that just fitting a K&N, the turbo would then have a supply of air to compress, rather than having to actually suck the air all the way through the filter and ducting.

Regards Austin..

[Big Kev]

Brilliant bit of Techy explanation, Austin, and I feel the better for it. I have a K & N Filter fitted in conjunction with my Kingo / Lindop Chip Kit.(SR180 :goes from 178bhp to 218, reputedfully.......) Look under my nomme de plume for many blurbs re the benefits of The Kingo Kit, but the only way I can put the benefits of the panel filter is to repeat the phrase of the great Mereside who sold it to me....."it mostly serves to improve the grin factor" on accelerating, and does to me represent the difference between running with and without yer hand over yer mouth, if you follow....?

It does cause a wee bit of turbo whistle, which I know irritated Local Hero and Anchorman. Being of much sounder mind and attitude, I became accustomed....you have just reminded me to give it a wee clean and oil, but it's minus 8 oot there, so it shall be deemed an NTJ......Nurra Time Job.

Big Kev

[bothwell_buyer]

Brilliant bit of Techy explanation, Austin, and I feel the better for it. I have a K & N Filter fitted in conjunction with my Kingo / Lindop Chip Kit.(SR180 :goes from 178bhp to 218, reputedfully.......) Look under my nomme de plume for many blurbs re the benefits of The Kingo Kit, but the only way I can put the benefits of the panel filter is to repeat the phrase of the great Mereside who sold it to me....."it mostly serves to improve the grin factor" on accelerating, and does to me represent the difference between running with and without yer hand over yer mouth, if you follow....?

It does cause a wee bit of turbo whistle, which I know irritated Local Hero and Anchorman. Being of much sounder mind and attitude, I became accustomed....you have just reminded me to give it a wee clean and oil, but it's minus 8 oot there, so it shall be deemed an NTJ......Nurra Time Job.

Big Kev

:crybaby: :crybaby: haha - hic :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Its taken me 12 hours to stop gasping after a fit of hilariousness..... 218bhp for a 5 door 2 ton snow cruncher? And mapping a diesels ecu ????? Multimap would be the best one.

Sorry - no offence intended but I just took a fit of laughter. I can just imagine mapping the 6 litre engine on the Renault truck and being able to achieve 0-62 mph in 6 hours....or wur JCB 2 litre diesel punching out speeds in excess of 13mph.

If I were you lot of oil burning overweighted apology for a RAV4 owners, I'd throw away the 2 extra doors; swap the engine for one that runs without the usual frequent gum-ups; ditch the back seats; join a casino for real chips; and admit that the whistle is not yer low-speed turbo but yer tinnitus acting up. :naughty:

Now, back into my box....

[Roadwrangler]

Brilliant bit of Techy explanation, Austin, and I feel the better for it. I have a K & N Filter fitted in conjunction with my Kingo / Lindop Chip Kit.(SR180 :goes from 178bhp to 218, reputedfully.......) Look under my nomme de plume for many blurbs re the benefits of The Kingo Kit, but the only way I can put the benefits of the panel filter is to repeat the phrase of the great Mereside who sold it to me....."it mostly serves to improve the grin factor" on accelerating, and does to me represent the difference between running with and without yer hand over yer mouth, if you follow....?

It does cause a wee bit of turbo whistle, which I know irritated Local Hero and Anchorman. Being of much sounder mind and attitude, I became accustomed....you have just reminded me to give it a wee clean and oil, but it's minus 8 oot there, so it shall be deemed an NTJ......Nurra Time Job.

Big Kev

Hi Big Kev,

Thanks for the follow up, I've looked at the Lindhop kit my self, but to be honest and no disrespect to Kingo, I think its too expensive for what it is. A couple of mods I'm considering when the weather warms up (-8 here too) 1, blank off the EGR valve, mine isn't fully sealing shut, so boost pressure will be getting lost into the exhaust, when it warms up I'll take the assembly off and draw round the flanges, then get a couple of blanking plates laser cut in 2mm ally, blanking it off at both ends. 2, I noticed the front number plate is fitted such that hangs over part of the lower grille vents, the bottom of the radiator and intercooler look to be behind there, there is plenty of room to raise the number plate around an inch, which will let more cold air hit the various radiators, this latter mod will probably be more noticable at mid range speeds, but should allow more cold air to rush through.

I've got a K&N on the GTO (grey import version of Mitz 3000GT), that thing has some serious induction roar (3-litre V6 twin turbo petrol) its running 300+ brake, between the K&N and the 3" HKS exhaust you get some sweet music (and the occasional flame)

Regards Austin..

[Roadwrangler]

:crybaby: :crybaby: haha - hic :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Its taken me 12 hours to stop gasping after a fit of hilariousness..... 218bhp for a 5 door 2 ton snow cruncher? And mapping a diesels ecu ????? Multimap would be the best one.

Sorry - no offence intended but I just took a fit of laughter. I can just imagine mapping the 6 litre engine on the Renault truck and being able to achieve 0-62 mph in 6 hours....or wur JCB 2 litre diesel punching out speeds in excess of 13mph.

If I were you lot of oil burning overweighted apology for a RAV4 owners, I'd throw away the 2 extra doors; swap the engine for one that runs without the usual frequent gum-ups; ditch the back seats; join a casino for real chips; and admit that the whistle is not yer low-speed turbo but yer tinnitus acting up. :naughty:

Now, back into my box....

Just look at any of the cars fitted with the Audi 1.9 diesel, skoda's, passat's and the various Audi's all use the same 1.9 engine, its available in 85bhp to 130 bhp guises, and a simple upload of the alternate power software and your car has a whole new lease of life... I know my T180 has an outstanding software update available, it might not be 'Mapping' in that sense of the word, but a change of parameters in the software update can have a similar effect. Think of it like this, there is already two programs in there now, Normal and Limp Home Mode, Limp Home severely reducing your power and revvs, but keeping you moving.

Have a look on u-tube, I'm sure there is a modded jcb on there that pops great wheelies and staggering 1/4 mile times.

Its deffo turbo whistle, my car like many seems to suffer from turbo lag, my leaking egr will contribute to that, but to check it out, I connected up my ex VAG workshop boost gauge and went for a drive, I discovered the boost starts from around 1100rpm and builds, foot to the floor in 3rd I was hitting 23/24psi, that is some boost mate, my GTO only runs 12 psi to hit 300+ bhp.

Regards Austin..

[RAV4Len]

OK, I take on board what you say about being unable to map the Denso ECU,

But how about the induction roar? Is that standard? Not that I mind....

Next question - What is the best dump valve to buy?

Only joking :)

[stewyinpagham]

It'll be interesting to find out if the EM lamp comes on with the EGR blanked off. Blanking is a normal fudge for extra power so fingers X'ed. In Volvo-Penta land, we have the Marine D3 known in the car world as the D5 (5 cylinder) available from 110HP to 200HP. Up to 160HP its just software and engine mounts. Over that its pistons and bigger piston cooling jets, coupled with huge injectors.

[local hero]

It'll be interesting to find out if the EM lamp comes on with the EGR blanked off. Blanking is a normal fudge for extra power so fingers X'ed. In Volvo-Penta land, we have the Marine D3 known in the car world as the D5 (5 cylinder) available from 110HP to 200HP. Up to 160HP its just software and engine mounts. Over that its pistons and bigger piston cooling jets, coupled with huge injectors.

Excuse my complete ignorance, iam HONESTLY not trying to be clever, but why do all manufacturers fit EGRs these days

which appear to cause only problems,If it would seem that our cars would run better without them or with them blanked off Stew

[MarsKy]

It'll be interesting to find out if the EM lamp comes on with the EGR blanked off. Blanking is a normal fudge for extra power so fingers X'ed. In Volvo-Penta land, we have the Marine D3 known in the car world as the D5 (5 cylinder) available from 110HP to 200HP. Up to 160HP its just software and engine mounts. Over that its pistons and bigger piston cooling jets, coupled with huge injectors.

Excuse my complete ignorance, iam HONESTLY not trying to be clever, but why do all manufacturers fit EGRs these days

which appear to cause only problems,If it would seem that our cars would run better without them or with them blanked off Stew

Environment now takes precedence over performance: Wiki EGR

[Roadwrangler]

It'll be interesting to find out if the EM lamp comes on with the EGR blanked off. Blanking is a normal fudge for extra power so fingers X'ed. In Volvo-Penta land, we have the Marine D3 known in the car world as the D5 (5 cylinder) available from 110HP to 200HP. Up to 160HP its just software and engine mounts. Over that its pistons and bigger piston cooling jets, coupled with huge injectors.

I'm pretty sure the MIL won't be illuminating, as I'm not removing the EGR, just going to fit a blanking plate at each end then bolt the egr back down, the ecu will still see the egr as functioning, its drive unit will still be opening the valve, just no gas will be passing through. On my 56 plate car, there is no gas flow monitoring in the egr, so blanking off should'nt trip the MIL. On later cars (I know Anchormans EGR is totally different to mine) there appears to be actual flow monitoring of the egr gases, so blanking one of these off would trip the MIL with an egr fault.

Is that D5 engine Volvo's own or based on the original Audi 5 pot?

Regards Austin..

[Roadwrangler]

Excuse my complete ignorance, iam HONESTLY not trying to be clever, but why do all manufacturers fit EGRs these days

which appear to cause only problems,If it would seem that our cars would run better without them or with them blanked off Stew

Hi Stew,

It probably started with Brussels! as in EEC Legislation, saying from 93 all cars in this country had to be fitted with a CAT (petrol's first back then) Forgetting the argument that CAT's (not pussies) are a waste of time in this country as a large part of the driving populus don't do long enough journeys to get the CAT at operating temp and thus just waste fuel heating the CAT. After CATS's were getting fitted as standard, all of a sudden a new poisonous gas was present in the exhaust, called Oxides of Notrogen or NOX (all the old MOT 4-Gas analysers had to be changed for 5-Gas ones) Nox being the result of unburnt fuel (hydrocarbons) and the by product of your exhaust gas being passed through the platinum rich envoironment of the CAT. EGR helps combat this by re-burning the gas, lowering any hydrocarbons in the exhaust. It also helps modify the combustion temp etc too.

I cleaned my EGR out a few weeks ago, it was packed solid with carbon, diesels are very sooty, I'll bet its not far off needing a clean again soon, but whilst I could'nt get it that clean that it totally sealed all the light out, I'll just blank it off.

Regards Austin..

[stewyinpagham]

>>> Is that D5 engine Volvo's own or based on the original Audi 5 pot?<<<

VP's D3 marine (D5 car) is their own unit. We know it as the Disaster3. It has had a few 'dealer oppertunities' (warranty issues)in its past!

[Roadwrangler]

>>> Is that D5 engine Volvo's own or based on the original Audi 5 pot?<<<

VP's D3 marine (D5 car) is their own unit. We know it as the Disaster3. It has had a few 'dealer oppertunities' (warranty issues)in its past!

I wonder if Ford with do a Focus RS-Diesel with that unit in....

The Penta Z drive unit with the twin counter rotating props looks a nice bit of engineering.