Celica (gen 7) Info

[mika_98]

Hi all,

A few months down the line I'll be on the market for a Gen 7 Celica so thought I'd try my hand at a little research to add to it. Preferably, I'd like the 190 version but am also willing to settle for the 140 is a good examle comes by. I'm looking to spend (going according to what I have seen on the Autotrader and Ebay) in the region of £3-4k. So I guess its most likely going to be the 140 :) Now for the questions...

So, what should I look out for? What are the 140's like from a tuning perspective? Given that I'm kinda heavy at times with the right foot what type of fuel consumption should I expect? And how about motorway journeys?

Any other info you veterans can pass on would be appreciated :)

Thanks!

[celica140sport]

from a 140 perspective...make sure its a facelift post 2002 reg. you dont want the oil problem on your hands. (theres lots of threads like this on this site have a search through them) motorways in the 140 comfotable and cruize all day in 6th (bit loud road noise thou) fuel is great for the power of the car. car is a real head turner. if u want to mod a 140 buy a 190 as the 140 aint really going to go any quicker without a supercharger. but u can do alot cosmeticly to them. u sound like the sort of person who should go for the 190 i couldnt get insurance thou grr lol i dont think theres much in mpg between them and people are always banging on about the lift in the 190 so must be good lol. hope this helps u alittle. very good car though!

[Vince W]

Mine is still fo sale, 5800 though, a bit over your budget.

p.s. It's a VVTLi but comes up on insurance data bases as a 140????????? All the relevent numbers check out, even splashed out on the mega HPI check before I bought it, weird! (Cheap insurance though.)

Oh yeah, we've had a VVTi before, and the mpg is roughly the same. (Providing you keep the 'Li out of 'lift'!)

[mika_98]

^ I headed straight for the sale section upon registering and noticed your ad. Yes, sadly it is out of my budget. Lovely car, should go soon! Lol @ 'Li out of 'lift' ....guess thats a bit like VTEC then B)

from a 140 perspective...make sure its a facelift post 2002 reg. you dont want the oil problem on your hands. (theres lots of threads like this on this site have a search through them) motorways in the 140 comfotable and cruize all day in 6th (bit loud road noise thou) fuel is great for the power of the car. car is a real head turner. if u want to mod a 140 buy a 190 as the 140 aint really going to go any quicker without a supercharger. but u can do alot cosmeticly to them. u sound like the sort of person who should go for the 190 i couldnt get insurance thou grr lol i dont think theres much in mpg between them and people are always banging on about the lift in the 190 so must be good lol. hope this helps u alittle. very good car though!

Thanks very much for the advice.

Hmm, so I guess the pre '02 models have an oil issue. I'll be sure to run a search on this. Just a quick question though, does that apply to the 190's too? And is problem a major one? I'm guessing so.

I have'nt tried getting a quote yet. I shall let you know of my findings :)

Oh and one more, what is the handling like? Does the 7th Gen come with strut bars/braces like the 6th Gen?

Any further info would be great :D

[celica140sport]

well just to confuse you lol. its not all pre face lift 140 i think some are still ok its hard to tell thou untill u own the car if it has the problem. ( mine has it ) but i belive toyota fix it under warrenty subject to age and milage. the 190 i think its very rare but there are still a few out there so again probly best off to get a facelift plus the t sport has revised lift bolts. handling is superby matey if u get understeer from it your going to fast lol i cant fault it nothing will put a smile on your face than a twisty road on a summers evening with the windows down i guarentee it. well for 3-4 grand anyway. you can get strut braces for them but unless you have no mercy in the corners dont think youll need it. quite cheap i think if u need one. o one more thing if u have friends tell them theyll be walking cause its a right laugh trying to get friends in the back seats lol. have you test drove one yet? or just doing your homework?

[mika_98]

well just to confuse you lol. its not all pre face lift 140 i think some are still ok its hard to tell thou untill u own the car if it has the problem. ( mine has it ) but i belive toyota fix it under warrenty subject to age and milage. the 190 i think its very rare but there are still a few out there so again probly best off to get a facelift plus the t sport has revised lift bolts. handling is superby matey if u get understeer from it your going to fast lol i cant fault it nothing will put a smile on your face than a twisty road on a summers evening with the windows down i guarentee it. well for 3-4 grand anyway. you can get strut braces for them but unless you have no mercy in the corners dont think youll need it. quite cheap i think if u need one. o one more thing if u have friends tell them theyll be walking cause its a right laugh trying to get friends in the back seats lol. have you test drove one yet? or just doing your homework?

K' so not all of 'em suffer from this then. I've ran a search (well tried) but this forum like many requires more than 3 letters to throw up any results; I typed in 'oil'. Any chance you can shed some light on this issue please. Is it a leak? If so what causes it? And how severe is the problem?

Lol I used to be one of those that gave no mercy through corners..... but grown out of that :D. I guess understeer is something you have to live with in most stock FWD cars. I have'nt test drove one yet, just doing my homework. Only Toyotas I've driven from the sporty range are the 6th Gen GT and the Corrolla Gti.

Oh and how does this compare to the Gen 6 GT in a straight line? And how about the Civic Type R? I'm guessing the CTR would have the legs against a 190.... or no?

Thanks again and sorry for all the questions.

[celica140sport]

piston rings i believe is the problem cant really go into detail but im sure someone can. not sure about 190 pace not driven one. but i know my 140 is awesome midranged will beat most 2liter bmw's

i think msot repairs have cost people over 1000 pounds whether its rebuild or replaced so i dont want to have the bill on your hands. i think for your budget a pre facelift 190 will be the best and i dont think youll have to worry about the problem. if u do have it its not that bad its just like owning a mazda rx8 just need to keep it topped up as long as u do it will run like new

[mika_98]

Thanks for the info. I'm gonna keep an eye out for a either a 140 or 190, pre 2002 model. I've noticed some 2002+ models in the 140 range going for around the 3-4k mark. I'll be sure to get in touch with the seller if I notice any good examples.

Watch this space :P

[Vince W]

Come and have a go in mine anytime, you'll definitely want to buy it afterwards, it's very addictive. ;)