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nielshm

Is the hybrid engine too weak for the new CHR

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I found this clip on Youtube, showing acceleration fra 0-140.

It seems like the car is struggeling, 122 hp is not a lot for a car of this size. It's higher, heavier and fitted with wider tyres, than the Auris. I fear it could be a bit difficult driving at hign speeds, and still keeping revs low. After all, the car is 90 mm. higher and 170 kg. heavier.

Since the hybrid systen is similar to the one found in the Auris, a full acceleration seems a lot faster.

Have you tried the car yet, and what first impressions have you experienced?

 

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In terms of size the C-HR isn't that different to the Auris (although the C-HR is not based on the Auris), and is lighter than the Auris.

Length - Auris 4330mm - C-HR 4360mm

Width - Auris 1760mm - C-HR 1795mm

Height - Auris 1475mm - C-HR 1555mm

Kerb weight - Auris 1415-1425kg - C-HR 1380-1420kg.

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The danish specs is quite different. The CHR weighs 1525 kg as a Hybrid. The 1.2T is 50 kg lighter. 

The Auris weighs 1425 kg as a Hybrid and the 1.2T is 100 kg lighter. 

 

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It looks like the UK driving experience of the C-HR will be different to that in the Netherlands, and the two versions of the C-HR hybrid won't be directly comparable.

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Like all Hybrids it is a bit "Revvy" but drives and handles superbly. Once you get used to how the Hybrid system drives, you will get used to it.

 

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On 11/01/2017 at 4:30 PM, Parts-King said:

Like all Hybrids it is a bit "Revvy" but drives and handles superbly. Once you get used to how the Hybrid system drives, you will get used to it.

Today I drive the 1.2T Auris with CVT. I find the CVT less "revvy" than the Hybrid, due to the better torque from the turbo. Turbocharged engine and CVT works pretty well in the Auris. How ever, if I fill the car with passengers and suitcases in the back, the CVT is a lot harder drive with low revs. The extra weight clearly makes a difference.

So if the CHR is higher, heavier and with wider tires, that must be something that can be felt every day.

The CHR looks great, but it's a shame if the engine or drivetrain does'nt match the look. 

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I drove one yesterday and power seemed adequate, might not be as powerful as some of the cars I have owned but as I currently have a Prius the hybrid C-HR seems a reasonable replacement for me.

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I've come from a Prius to a C-HR, it has more power, directional stability through the bends is vastly superior. You don't realise how good it till you drive one. 

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I ordered mine as a company/leased car last week. A Hybrid,metal stream, dynamic. I am currently driving a Prius plus so really looking forward to driving the C-HR. I haven't had a test drive but I have no complaints about the Prius plus so even if the C-HR drive is the same, with the style that the C-HR brings  I will be happy enough.

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On 10/01/2017 at 6:46 PM, nielshm said:

122 hp is not a lot for a car of this size

Having looked at the power of the cars I have owned I found that most of them had less than 122bhp which would suggest that the power is adequate for my needs especially as I never seem to do 0-60 as fast as possible

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We have had our hybrid Excel 2 days now.  Can't comment on mid range acceleration yet, but from standing start it picks up really quickly with instant throttle response.  All aspects of handling are excellent too.  We are very pleased.  Our other Toyota is a GT86, fitted with a Cosworth supercharger.  Even against that, the C-HR is very satisfying.  Motorway driving coming soon!

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Got mine today,only driven it back from the dealership and on a local shopping trip so never exceeded 40mph. No problem keeping up with other traffic - performance as expected.

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120 mile trip on motorway. Acceleration was fine for overtaking and keeping up with traffic.

 

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We've had a C-HR (a Dynamic hybrid) on loan from Toyota for a week so I've tested it quite thorougly on both motorways, back roads and through town. I would not worry about acceleration, they have tuned it so the electric motor gives more 'shove' at lower speeds than the previous generation of HSD cars. This means that in day-to-day driving it feels much more responsive and able to keep up with traffic with out much strain. Higher speeds are fine too. Of course, as usual with the HSD drivetrains, if you want to overtake at high speeds the revs will shoot up but pace is adequate. 

Don't judge until you've test driven one. Once you are in one, you will not really worry about pace. The way the C-HR soaks up bumps, turns in and holds the line through corners will make for an enjoyable drive regardless of acceleration. The combination of low speed grunt, road manners and design makes this car almost feel a bit European but with a very clear Japanese distinction. If nothing else, I think this is Toyota's response to the competitive pressure asserted by the European market and manufacturers for cars that are great to drive and that look good.

 

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Absolutely agree with APS above.  Sums things up nicely!!

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I've done 2,300 in my Hybrid Excel now. It's very good at what it does, pulls away very sharply till about 30 mph and still very responsive after that, but as Parts-King says, does tend to get quite "revvy" if your in a hurry though. Its a very stable platform on twisty roads. I'm getting nearly 58 mpg so far on average on the daily commute, which is mostly 70 mph dual carriageway driving (I tend to sit around 65 mph or down to 60 mph if the traffic flow allows it). I recon its well matched engine / electric motor wise for the size and bulk of the car, suits my driving style very nicely I feel...:smile:

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