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Devon Aygo has recently supplied the following information on Oil requirements:

"The issues over which oils are used is caused by a European law called "Block exemption" the same law that states that manufacturers can't insist on main dealer servicing, also stops Toyota from insisting what oils are used by anyone wishing to service a car including their own dealer network. All Toyota are allowed to do is list a set of specifications that the Oil used must meet they can also list a "preferred" Oil. For example I have listed below the requirements Toyota have for the mkiii Prius, a car that has caused a lot of posts over the oils that have been used during servicing. This info is taken from Toyota's Service data sheet for European Prius mkiii only!

Preferred option:
0w20

Other listed options:
5w20
5w30
10w30
15w40
20w50

These grades above are listed by Toyota as they meet the following required specifications:

API grade SL or SM multigrade engine Oil
API grade SL “Energy-Conserving”. SM “Energy-Conserving” or ILSAC* multigrade engine Oil.


Toyota can only require the oils used meet the minimum specifications above. So long a the Oil used meets the above the Oil grade is not enforceable.


At present Toyota have "asked" but cannot enforce the dealer network to use the following,

Mk3 Prius, Prius plug-in, Prius +, Mk1 Auris HSD, Mk2 Auris HSD & Yaris HSD 0w20

Mk1 & Mk2 Prius 5w30

Optimal drive petrol models 0w20 or 5w30

Other petrol engines 5w30

Diesel engines incl Optimal drive 5w30

Diesel engines with DPF including optimal drive 0w30 or 5w30 meeting C2 low ash specifications"

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All available from Kingo, 0w 20, 0w 30, 5w 30 PM me for prices. Please state the grade you require or let me know what model / engine type you have

Kingo :thumbsup:

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Most garages have never heard of 0/20W in the UK. Personally I use fully synthetic,though of course this is not really necessary on most non turbo engines.

It is said that if a car had a big enough filter we could safely get 30,000 miles using synthetic,but I guess the service agents would not be happy.

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Most garages have never heard of 0/20W in the UK. Personally I use fully synthetic,though of course this is not really necessary on most non turbo engines.

It is said that if a car had a big enough filter we could safely get 30,000 miles using synthetic,but I guess the service agents would not be happy.

People would read that as "I dont need to lift my bonnet for 30K" it's bad enough at 10K intervals. "My washers have stopped working-can you check them?" Yes Sir, you need to fill the bottle with water!!! :rolleyes:

0w 20 is readily available, if a garage has not heard of it I suggest you take it elsewhere

Kingo :thumbsup:

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This is strange as the comment I received for a Toyota service agent regarding use of oils was not really in keeping with your comment. It certainly does not seem to apply in the Middle East, the Far East, and Africa where they seem to run Toyota's on anything that's wet and oily. The Yaris handbook comments on oils seems very much to agree with this as well. During the first years of the cars life servicing is essential to keep in with the Toyota warranty, after that the MOT brings most legally minded owners to a service centre at least yearly.

As matter of interest the only reason for 0w- 20w oils are to increase fuel economy in cold climates,they do nothing to increase lubrication or engine life. Its also equally interesting that allowing for third world servicing and make do and mend, it appears that 80% of Totoyta vehicles built in the last 20 years are still running.

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In both my 2009 Auris and my 2012 Auris the Toyota-preferred Oil is 0W-20. Under Block Exemption,Toyota are not able to enforce their preference for Oil with their dealer network. The fact that a Toyota service agent may have a different opinion on what Oil they use, doesn't get away from the fact that 0w-20 Oil is Toyota's preferred choice for some of their petrol models, and that 0W-20 Oil is readily available from a variety of sources in the UK (including Toyota dealers). I would also suggest that on the subject of Oil suitability for Toyota engines, Toyota knows better than one of their Service Agents.

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I've been reading that the problem many people seem to have with their gears isn't so much the gearbox itself, but rather the Oil that Toyota uses.

All I can tell you it what I've read. If you use a 50:50 mix of Redline MT90 and Redline MTL (1 litre bottle of each) I understand the gearbox takes about 2 ltr,that should cure the problem in most cases.

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Hello,

Is there any another brand than Redline?

Sorry, because in my country I can't get Redline.

FYI, I live in Indonesia right now. thanks

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