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Just picked up a 2020 2.0ltr Excel Corolla in Manhattan Grey. Had to scour the country to get the right deal and ended driving 700 mile round trip plus a night in a hotel to get one. Thats a story for another day, using internet and phone to deal with 25 dealers . Won't bother listing everything I like all been said here, I've come from high mileage area manager in fast diesels and some decent private cars like tuned Saab and tuned MX5, and now in semi retirement and got this as need to ferry lad about as he hops between university and stuff like that. Only brief test drive in 1.8. Car comfy good interior looks good etc etc and infotainment not as bad as reviewers make out . Anyway, some observations. 330 miles and 57mpg, I'll take that, EV mode at 70 going downhill was nice. Ride on the 18s with those skinny tires is excellent, probably what impressed me most . Chassis ok, but steering very light and not much feedback, not a car to hustle down the lanes. Sport mode and the flappy panels really quite funny actyally, if you use these you've possibly bought the wrong car. All I used was ECO mode and found that flooring the pedal was more than enough to take off around lorries. Watching the total mpg plummet when you did and ECO score drop was a giggle. But the response even in ECO more was fine. The 2ltr has effortless power for everyday driving and in sport mode can keep the company car nutters in 320Ds at bay over 100 yards but I won't be using that, just tested it. Battery is only 3 bars when I got home, went out later and after a mile the eco mode wasn't available. Think the car was stood at the dealer for a while, when I collected it had to have a new 12v battery and it's only 2 years old. LTA and ACC are superb and as good as the Volvo and Audi I've had . Android auto meh, can't get many apps as I have podcasts on YouTube and other apps and can't access it, plus I like the nav directions on the digital dash better with the car system, plus just seems an easier system to use and Google maps not as quick to get me in the right lane as the car system, a pet hate of mine. So just gonna stick with the car . The Manhattan grey really suits it, only one I could find with a dealer willing to deal was a long way away but worth it . So very impressed. Surprisingly easy car to master , a few YouTube's and and away you go. Oh and can't see the point of the hill assist, the creep does it all for you. I suppose someone starting on a literally vertical hill might use it . All in all probably just going to keep it in ECO mode . Best thing so far? The economy is as good as claimed, it looks great and is a very comfortable effortless drive. Worst thing? Probably steering feel but as I've just come from a modded MX5 that's just probably muscle memory . Very good car .

Actual car rather than stock. The satin looks satin in shade and metallic in the sun, similar to to the Audi Nardo

I came from a GT86, and the biggest thing for me to acclimatise to was the light steering. Even in sport mode. I'm not fussed about the roll and soft ride, I've spent most of my life in big Peugeot saloons. There is a knack to hustling a wallowy old barge.

I have 2.0 touring sport in Manhattan grey and I endorse this message.

Particularly useful when you park/reverse in really tight spaces on a hill. It means you can get really close to an obstacle, push the brakes hard to 'lock' the car in place and then change from reverse to forward or vice versa to move off.

I have a 2.0ltr Excel Pan Roof in Obsidian Blue, great car and love driving on the motorway everyday as it’s comfortable and economical. The bigger engine helps with the overtaking definitely, love having the power there when needed, im used to a 1.33 Yaris so a huge step up!

If it's the same as our C-HR then it means you can sit at the lights without your foot on the brake pedal.

I am not sure about the low service cost, that might be in theory. When i checked service cost t of some EVs, i found them no cheaper than conventional ICE vehicles. I might be wrong though.

Gerhard, Yes fingers down inside top edge, then run them down the side, cover pops off.

The wonderful EU in the face of threats of escalating war from Russia and other problems affecting food supplies and onset of deep recession can apparently find the time to bring in legislation that will effectively ban new PHEV’s from 2025. The car industry is stunned and trying to fight back although have accepted it’s a lost cause. Apparently the EU want manufacturers to sell BEV’s at a rate of 3 or 4 times the number of ICE cars by 2025. Nothing like getting your priorities right. I shake my head in disbelief.

Well it’s a spare wheel in the modern sense in that it will get you home safely until you get the puncture properly repaired. But it’s not the old style full sized spare wheel that we were used to back in the day. But it’s a mileage times better than the gunk alternative.

SC16HR11 are correct, these engines run like carp on anything but Denso plugs you have to use a 14mm 12 point socket (thinwall) to get down the plug hole eg. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254950678682 IKH20TT 4704 are too cold a plug

As you have android auto you can update Maps OTA either by mobile data or WIFI connection, to keep data costs down the car will only update UK/IE maps if you want the full western EU you need a USB. To access ensure you have a MyT account & data connection press setup button, then on LH menu select Online, then Toyota online, input your MyT account details if you haven't already then scroll down and select map update.

I wish 😁 My printer is playing up and my backup drive crashed and some data was lost on One Drive. Went on a cruise in March, great pile of printouts, quick scan and we were through. Chap ahead could not find his on his phone 😁

Money, fuel economy and boot space were no object!!

Hard to know what you mean by creaking, it's all very subjective. But, high pitched ticking or clicking noises when on full lock would indicate worn CV joints. This would need addressing. The creaking you describe could also just be the rubber gaiters squealing a bit on full lock. This is not much to worry about. BTW - we used to have a Yaris just like yours. A 2010 model with the 1.33 (1NR-FE) engine - from new. I'd say you'd normally get 40MPG around town and closer to 50 on longer journeys. Your black spark plugs do not sound healthy. Could be CO2 sensor - this could be cleaned. But it may be OK since you have not got any fault codes. I'd also get someone to do a compression test on the engine. It's quick/cheap to check and fundamental to the engine's efficiency.

I ran an HKS super hybrid filter in my GT86 for a year, it literally felt no different to when it had the OEM filter in it. So I put an OEM filter back in it.

If money/fuel was no object then I would have a 2.0, it's a superb engine, but a little thirstier than the 1.8. I am currently doing quite a bit of mileage so the 1.8 is better on economy

Nice car and colour 🚙👌 Normal mode far better feeling and response from accelerator, efficiency it’s the same and climate control settings are unaffected. You can try for yourself if you like it. Enjoy your new car 👍

1.8 would meet the needs of a majority of folks. However, if the 2 litre was not necessary, Toyota would not have devised them. Lots of research goes into this, and I am sure Toyota knows more than 1.8 fanboys.

Didn't take long 😆

Ok first drive around town the hill assist is excellent, still creeps with light touch on the break, activates with harder press, very clever, I'm converted

Even in ECO mode the thing takes off around lorries obviously at legal speeds etc etc

Yes, it's the same. I find it very useful for this very reason.

It is indeed.We are naming our price for wafers just now.Most of our output is heading to France.So i guess it'll end up in the Yaris and Cross. Always adjusting production to meet demand.But it's still full throttle for now.

Yeah you have to keep it in Eco/Eco+ as much as possible - I think when you go into PWR band, the dynamic force engines go into Otto-cycle mode and become as thirsty as you'd expect for a normal 1.5/2.0 engine!! Ahh, when I bought my Mk1 Yaris, £35 of diesel would get me 600 miles - I miss those days... I think it's more like £45 for 500 miles in the Mk4...

Agreed printers still necessary. Our daughter has one at uni, makes a mess of the screen if you try and highlight parts of PowerPoint presentations 🤣. We also did a cruise in April, the paperwork was unbelievable, so much easier than trying to find it all on phone (had it all on phone as well though)

ah, sorry, you need to use more and

It's also common in many other makes and models - may even be a standard requirement in some markets. It's not just a Toyota thing.

Toyota has thought about this. And then thought again; It would risk locking stray family members left in the car while the driver rushes off to buy a winning lottery ticket - and subsequently forget all about their family in the car. The headlines would look bad "Toyota vehicle holds forgotten family hostage". That's why. Sorry.

From memory, with production cutbacks due to Covid, most vehicle manufacturers cut back on chip orders, and their place in the order priorities were taken up by computer and phone manufacturers, etc. When vehicle production got back to near normal, the manufacturers found they were lower down the order priority. This was on top of the effects of Covid on the chip manufacturers and their supply chains.

If you don't need a big car, the Mk4 Yaris is a hoot - It's the closest thing to my old Mk1 Yaris diesel, which had very strong torque at any speed in any gear, and got 60-65mpg. The Mk4 also pulls very strongly at any speed, has even better responsiveness (No turbo to spin up, just instant electric torque!) and gets even better mpg! (I tend to bounce between 70 and 80mpg tank average depending on my mood ) The Mk4 is the closest thing I've driven to a good small turbodiesel - It has the same near-instant torque delivery I loved about the old 1.4 D4D, and is genuinely efficient - You don't have to drive efficiently to get good mpg, which is the hallmark of a truly efficient car. (Of course if you do drive efficiently it will reward you with absolutely stupid mpgs ) The car is also amazingly agile and much more confidence-inspiring than previous Yarisusueesuises on twisty roads - The steering is a bit overassisted and nowhere near as communicative as the hydraulic steering in my Mk1, but the car is muuuch stiffer, wider and lower than any other Yaris before it which all really improve the steering dynamics very noticeably. It's as fun as an Aygo to fling round corners, which is impressive given how much heavier it is, and has near-Fiesta levels of handling feel (Fords typically being the benchmark for good handling for some reason!) It is even passable on long journeys, although I am using my Special Back Support Towel to stave off the spine-crippling seat in mine, but I imagine it would be a good way to loose friends if you had them in the back for said long journey! I also won't want to tow anything in it - It does remarkably well with 4 adults and a boot full of gear, but I could feel it wasn't overly keen on it, esp. on the uppy-downy-twisty roads we were on trying to find Goodwood The hybrid system is much improved over the Mk3's and it will haul said load happily up a twisty hill with much more confidence, even when the battery starts to run down, although the economy takes a nose-dive at that point as it switches from a gentle fuel-sipping Miller/Atkinson-cycle engine into full-power 1.5L gas-guzzling Otto-cycle power mode! By comparison my Mk1 D4D literally didn't car how much weight you put in it - The turbo would just sound louder and it'd continue to haul with barely an increase in fuel usage. The Mk4 has a lot of flaws, but from just a driving perspective it's an amazingly good car.

£30 ? Mine was nearly £200 for the year

This to me it looks like the automatic engagement / disengagement of the parking brake when the car is stationary has been disabled. I assume you can manually apply the brake with the button but it doesn't apply itself when you stop? You enable or disable the auto parking brake function by pressing and holding the parking brake button for five seconds.

this subject is certainly very polarizing 😀

Will add something to the list, I'll remove hill hold its fantastic, but add in the wheel arch gap on the rears seems more than the fronts and can't unsee it

My wife gets 63mpg out of her Yaris without any effort to get it, she doesn't hypermile in any way. Yaris is nippy and certainly fast enough for normal traffic but compared to a 335d most cars will feel slow 😀

https://www.commercialfleet.org/news/van-news/2022/05/30/toyota-to-enter-large-van-market

I note you say trips to Uni. I hope the load capacity is enough. At least today you don't have a Tower, keyboard, printer and 17 inch VDU to lug around. Laptop and printer shouldn't take up too much room.

You will upset all the 1.8 fan boys 😉 They will be all out again saying the 2 litre isn't necessary.

This ☝️! 👍👍 Likely to be the next great scientific challenge (or advancement, if can be solved without serious environmental damage from mining rare earth minerals etc) of our time. Personal vehicles/cars are one thing, but freight (road/rail/air) & international travel/transport is a massive hurdle for ev tech, but likewise would be a gamechanger for sustainability/environmentally.

The system on my Mk4 tells me shows the pressures on each wheel and can tell which sensor is on which wheel after I've driven for a bit and it's able to ping them all...

No big loss, it was pointless anyway. If they'd used e.g. the 4NM rear motor as used in the RAV4 then it'd be useful, but the 1MM can barely even move the car on its own so it's a lot of extra mass for almost no benefit!

As Nigel showed, the power mix in the UK is made up from a significant portion of renewables. Currently there are only three coal fired power plants left in the UK. These are due to be closed in 2022 (Sept.), 2023, and 2024. Gas (and nuclear) can easily vary its output to cope with changes in demand. This is also where hydroelectric is extremely useful as it can go from 0 to 100% output in a matter of minutes. Advantages of electric cars? Lower service/running cost. Better reliability. Quieter. Much more flexible power delivery. You can generate your own energy.

In the instances you mention the selling dealer has correctly linked the purchase to the customers MyT account meaning they do not have to verify the car and as the car is woken up during PDI it starts transmitting to the APP. The fact you cannot verify suggests your dealer has not linked / verified your account

Which is what other manufacturers are doing - eg BMW Mini dropping manual gearboxes, etc.

Just because your neighbor said something does not mean it is true - especially if the car has a space to put the spare wheel. Even if that's not the case, as someone already said, treat this as luggage. If you ring your insurer, they will most likely take this opportunity to increase premium. Hence, do nothing. Enjoy your spare wheel.

Hi all.....There are 1000's of retirees like me that welcome an intermediate transition to BEV. At time of purchase I reckoned on a 5/10 year window for PHEV's. Retired means mostly suburban miles with a longish journey now & again. The RAV (46mls) with convenient home charging is the perfect fit in my case. I have no desire to move to a BEV in the foreseeable. Barry Wright, Lancashire.

It can be as little as 90 miles and around 2.5 hours. I do quite a few journeys through mid Wales with winding roads, junctions and roundabouts and that really fills up the event limits. On motorway journeys it can be quite a bit further and longer.

👍 Mine was ordered 20th Dec, still on processing. TS 2.0 GR Sport in Obsidian Blue, maybe they are doing the blue ones tomorrow 😀