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True, although it's easier to claim on the warranty if the servicing is done by the dealer otherwise you get the extra step to prove work was done properly. Also, if you have a long dealership history, you're more likely to get goodwill. The relax warranty was a clever move, and with hybrids it makes sense as you also get the HHC free. I'd be very reluctant do take my car there for any other work, e.g. tyres and brakes and especially non-hybrid system related diagnostics, but for basic servicing I've been happy with them so far.

Hi Mark,while a loose belt is a common problem, some Toyota Yaris owners have reported issues with a specific pulley, the tensioner pulley, causing the rattling noise you described. This pulley keeps the serpentine belt tight. A failing tensioner pulley bearing can cause a racket around the alternator area. Check the serpentine belt for any cracks, wear, or signs of excessive oil contamination. Look at the tensioner pulley for any wobble or excessive play. While the engine is off, press down on the belt with your thumb. There should be some give, but it shouldn't be slack.Hope this helps.

Well, I am now able to answer the burning question that many of you have... Yes, I'm afraid that new cars have the dreaded Mutlu battery in them But, the one I've got seems to be in rude health (it's been standing doing nothing for 3 days...) ...and that is positively my last word about batteries!!

I think that that is the more likely one... Well of course! You know why that is don't you? They're all hooligans in Italy! Bit like @Cyker really! 🤣 (running for cover... 😉)

I don't know, it's lighter than air.

Oi I'm no hooligan! ... I just drive like one sometimes...

It always needs a reset every time you do anything with the tyres, even if you just increase the pressure in them a little.

Yeah that’s what they said, that if anyone else other than a Toyota dealership does any work on the car at all then the warranty is completely void! The chancers… I’ve only ever owned cars that were proper second hand, sometimes third hand and were “sold as seen” so to speak. This is the first newish car I’ve owned that comes with a proper warranty. The new tyre was a completely brand new one so that’s interesting because the other tyres will need replacing just before the MOT in November so yeah…that’s very helpful! All this advice is really helpful because it gives me something to go in with, thank you!

As others have said, servicing at Toyota on a car outside the manufacturers warranty will extend it up to 10yr, but requiring a new car to be maintained within the dealer network to maintain warranty was made illegal, in Europe at least, many moons ago. Manufacturers are no longer allowed to hold a gun to your head. As long as the car is serviced to the same schedule as it would be at a Toyota dealership, and the same parts are used, there's no reason the warranty wil still be intact. I've never had to service our Toyota yet, but with every other manufacturer I've owned, the problem has been I've never found an indi or specialist to be any cheaper ( often found them to be more expensive ). If they're slightly cheaper then the main dealer has always matched their price. If it's being serviced much cheaper elsewhere, chances are they're not servicing it to the manufacturers recommendations.

Is this what they told you? It is literally against the law for them to invalidate the warranty just because you took the car somewhere else, as long as they're VAT-registered and use the right parts and materials. They definitely couldn't invalidate the warranty just from you getting someone else to look at the car. One other thing I was wondering, is if the other tyres are quite old and thus worn - If so, the new one will be slightly bigger as it'll have more tread, but I don't know how sensitive the passive TPMS system is and whether it would notice that...

Hi Gayle.since you've already booked your Aygo for a full inspection, you can definitely highlight these possibilities to the dealership. Explain that it's an indirect system.Ask them to check the owner's manual or relevant resources for the proper reset procedure specific to your Aygo. Mention the possibility of a faulty ABS wheel speed sensor causing the issue and request them to inspect the sensors for any damage.Ask them to confirm they have done this on your invoice

IIRC the Aygo doesn't use TPMS sensors, and detects punctures by sensing if one wheel isn't turning at the same rate as the others. It may just be there's a reset procedure that needs to be done (Check the manual), or there is some damage to one of the ABS wheel speed sensors which is causing this intermittently. In my experience Toyota dealers tend not to be very good at diagnostics; You may be better off finding an experienced local garage or mechanic with a good reputation to look at it. Edit: One stupid thing to check is the wheels are all the same size - Check the tyre sidewalls for something that looks like 175/55r15 or something like that, and make sure they're the same on all the tyres. It's unlikely but possible the wrong sized tyre was put on!

Owned a used 2016 for 5 years. Never once serviced at the dealer. Had 4 oil and filter changes during that time, took it to national tyres which was about £50-60 per change. It just needs oil & oil filter change as the main part. Changed the air filter once and couple of times the pollen filter, that's it. Saved 700-800 from dealership price. Now I have a new car have to service at the dealer for a few times at least to maintain warranty.

Hello Shelagh, Welcome to our forum, I owned a 2016 hybrid yaris, my next door neighbour owns a 2023, he is very content with it...... You will be saving a lot on petrol. Self charge, no need to plug in. Automatic gearbox, most of the cars nowadays are Auto, easy to drive, you left leg will rest, you will need only right one for the break and accelerator.... I did find it roomy enough for myself, am tall and big guy.... I am very happy for you, great choice !!!!

welcome Shelagh...good choice.

Hi Shelagh, welcome to the TOC. You will not be disappointed, it's the best small car on the market, I'm on my third Yaris and my 7th Toyota. Enjoy your new car, we love pictures, keep us posted.

Toyota dealers won't use non-Toyota parts, probably a condition of their franchise or something. My advice is just get a modest portable jump starter and leave it somewhere still accessible in the car when the battery goes (i.e. not the boot!), check its charge every 6 months or so, and leave things as they are. When the 12v battery does eventually die, you can jump start it then take to Halfords or something to get the Yuasa battery and even have them fit it if you want. I've been doing that for the past 3 years and still haven't had the 12v battery fail

Thanks for reply. It's only through reading this forum I became aware of possible battery problems. I will certainly monitor this and push for yuasa when it goes in for service. Wearing my "Where's my free battery upgrade"? t-shirt might do it?

You need to think about resale value as well. You have got a Design. Adding a lot, or even all, of the Excel bits won't make it an Excel, so it will still resell at Design prices ... or less even as the trade are wary of modified cars. Standard rules!

You need to be brave! The popper catch is tough and there is a U clip at the front edge that needs to come up and off simultaneously! A good hard tug upwards around the middle and front edge of the offside rear passenger seat and they will both disengage. It feels like you are going to damage the seat but you won't because it's bendy and pretty forgiving. I then use a good stiff small cardboard box to jam under the seat to keep it up and out of the way. There are then 2 clips to remove so that you can lift the cloth cover, that covers the access to the battery... Yes, it does. None at all. I was just fitting a BM6 plus a charger tail (maybe) for future use... Belt and braces and all that... 😉

Premium tyres with discount for the price of mid range? That’s what I always do. If you really want Kumho tyres they can be very good or very bad. Ecsta are usually a good one , I had them previously on my Auris and they were absolutely fine. 215/45 17

Hi Mark, The ease and cost of fixing the issue depend on the specific cause. If it's just a loose belt, tightening it should be relatively easy and inexpensive. However, if it's a problem with the alternator itself, it could be more involved and costly. A loose belt over time, can stretch or wear out, causing them to become loose and create noise.Worn out pulleys that are worn or misaligned can cause the belts to slip or make noise. A faulty alternator an also be a cause, if the alternator bearings are worn out or if there's an internal issue with the alternator, it could cause noise. Sometimes other components driven by the belt such as the water pump or power steering pump can develop issues that create noise. If you are not confident to investigate any of these then It's best to have a mechanic inspect the vehicle to determine the exact cause and provide an accurate estimate for the repair.Hope this helps

Have also had good experience of Michelin CC2 and Goodyear Vector all-season tyres

Thank you for your reply and help. I’ve been messaging with the dealer today who said I would only get 5 extras and not the other 2 that were options so will have to wait and see. Hope it has the extras too although it’s still good value. The eta for my car is 25th April at the dealership now. Getting so excited. Can’t wait

As per others, I think most tyres are much of the same, especially on cars like a Yaris ! Me? Well when I change tyres, I now go for an all-weather option. There are the obvious advantages in winter ( again, not as much as might be expected on a size the Yaris uses ) but they often lead to less cabin noise which for a Yaris, is an advantage. Michelin CrossClimate and Goodyear Vector all seasons have certainly worked for me in reducing road noise ( not fitted to a Toyota tho ).

Not done it yet but have on other similar cars. There are some good videos on e.g youtube and looks to take around 30min per door. You only need to cover around 25-30% of the outer skin surface which you can access through the access openings. I use Kilmat pads you can buy on Amazon. Worth also getting a trim removal tool kit for £7.

Yes, hence the bigger discounts for Michelin rubber!

Hiya, I’m not going to be a pillock with them but I’m not going to accept “there’s nothing wrong with the car” because warning lights come on for a reason, whether that be a sensor fault or something actually wrong with the tyres. I’m no mechanic admittedly but there’s surely something up with it for the light to come on as much as it does. Thing is, the car drives fine and when I check the pressures they’re always fine but I just know if I don’t check the pressures, it’ll bother me and the law of sod, the one time I don’t check them will be the one time I should! On a side note, if there was a slow puncture I’d know about it by now would you reckon? Thank you for this, I’ll definitely mention all of that - it’ll make me look like I know what I’m talking about 😉 I appreciate the reply 🙂

I don't regret getting my MK4 Yaris. The problem of battery discharge while parked is not unique to this model, Toyotas or hybrids. The underlying cause is that all but the most basic modern cars consume electricity while standing: keyless entry, alarm systems and 4G data connection (used to communicate with apps) all drain power from the battery. When Covid came I had a diesel Fiesta that had to be jump-started twice because the battery went flat. On both occasions it had been standing less than a fortnight. The Yaris is more economical and has more comfort and safety features than the Fiesta, which I like.

Michelin own ATS Euromaster.

I have a Yaris Cross design but would have preferred to purchase an Excel if it had an extra other than a satnav. I don’t see the point of spending more money on something I would never use as I have an excellent phone which connects to car play seamlessly.

TBH I just look at the premium tyres the tyre place sells and pick the cheapest ones It usually ends up being Goodyear/Dunlop or Hankook, but if you have an ATS Euromaster nearby they are still doing a discount deal on Michelin tyres.

I used to do that in my Merc. No idea why they could not hear it. We should use the Indian system. As the speed drops the horn starts bipping and becomes a steady note when stopped.

TBH you can service it pretty much anywhere; Servicing just means changing the oil and oil and air filters for the most part; The main part of servicing is checking the car for problems but I have my doubts how much of that gets done. I think with hybrids there is an advantage to servicing them with Toyota, as they also do a hybrid healthcare check which adds additional warranty to the traction battery, and now with the Relax scheme it also adds a 1 year general warranty from the date of the service. It will cost more though - If price is the main factor then you're better off taking it to a local trusted mechanic as they can do the minimum required stuff for less than any of the franchised garages. The electrical side of the car mostly takes care of itself.

Factory optimization to avoid to have and manufature two different power units. But they could effectively produce old and new motors and install the correct ones according to the requested power. By the way I see that also power changes according country. In Italy the Lounge grade that is quite equivalent to UK Excel one uses the 130 hp engine. The 115 engine is installed only on the two lower grades.

You have vibrations because of the wheels, these are way too large and out of speciations plus they might be a manufacturer fault in one or all of them. And btw the best size for these cars is 205/55 16

The 0% is on the EVs as it is at other manufacturers. When I bought my RAV I was having a good chat with the sales chap who was pretty candid about how the dealership make their money. He went on to say that there will be a 4/5 figure fine in future for each non ev care sale that doesnt meet the x% of total car sales being EV. Pure madness, it will end up being a scandal in future. Cars being sold to people who's needs are not met. I'm sure EV works for some and thats great but for many (my self included) its a future hellscape of car ownership.

Factory upgrades don't hurt, electric mirrors, power tailgate, it depends on your skill level TBH Sat nav - not really worth the hassle and cost - it's just an add-on module finding used parts can be a pain and expensive, especially as the cross has only been out 3 years

My experience of Frensh cars is that they are verry comfortable and and in front of inventions but... not top notch in quality. Our youngest daughter use a wheelchair so we have looked at Toyota Proace City Verso (preferably electric) cause its abilities to load the wheelchair a bit easier but Proace is an Stellantis ( as Citroen and Peugeot) car and I suppose its not standard Toyota standard

No, no, no ... In the My Toyota app, take a look at you latest Trip Summary. It traces the route of your trip and highlights, in blue, the sections of that trip when the ICE was switched off and the car was running in 'pure' EV mode. For me that is typically up to half the time. Every time that you lift off, run downhill, or drive slowly there is a decent chance that the engine will switch off. You won't necessarily notice - the stopping and starting of the engine is imperceptible and we still get to enjoy any road or wind noise (and of course the radio). I don't know about you but I spend most of my time watching the road rather than the little EV light so don't necessarily know whether it is on or off. Revert if you want to, I'm sticking with hybrid for now and going full EV next ... 😉

the front bumper, roof lining, back seat and dash would be out the first week, I do enjoy those little projects. And what position did you finish in the rally?,

You're as bad as me Don! lol! 🤣

Argo, maybe - our son has one which I drive occasionally Argo X - not my cup of tea. I’ve driven a couple, but didn’t enjoy them at all. Yaris Hybrid - most definitely. Brilliant cars. More efficient than the Aygo.

I changed from a very reliable MK3 Yaris. I do miss that car but I don't regret going for the MK4 at all. So many cool features.

Absolutely no regrets at all. I changed from a gorgeous GT86 back in 2014 (boo-hoo.. 😢) to our 1st Yaris Hybrid and was as impressed with that then as I am with my 4th one now and this new Mk4 with the 5th generation power plant (130) is an absolute gem so far... (see my other thread here...)

Absolutely not. Loving mine to bits. I'm a very low mileage user and might only use it once a week at most, sometimes not even that. Got mine plugged into a trickle charger but I've been doing that for all my vehicles for the last few years as they all suffer from lack of use. So this is nothing unique Turning off keyless entry reduces battery usage and improves security

I do not regret buying a MK4 Yaris If you buy a non Hybrid car you can still have 12 volt problems if it used only on short runs or just one or twice a week on short trips.

Easy answer, no

The boot light is on a timer but open then close reopen will re start the count down to off. You can always just disconnect the light the Yaris cross has its own switch so you can turn it off from what I understand. You can always just plug the 12 volt battery into a smart charger have the garage fit an appropiate lead as part of your deal thats one option.