Leaderboard

True, although it's easier to claim on the warranty if the servicing is done by the dealer otherwise you get the extra step to prove work was done properly. Also, if you have a long dealership history, you're more likely to get goodwill. The relax warranty was a clever move, and with hybrids it makes sense as you also get the HHC free. I'd be very reluctant do take my car there for any other work, e.g. tyres and brakes and especially non-hybrid system related diagnostics, but for basic servicing I've been happy with them so far.

Hi Mark,while a loose belt is a common problem, some Toyota Yaris owners have reported issues with a specific pulley, the tensioner pulley, causing the rattling noise you described. This pulley keeps the serpentine belt tight. A failing tensioner pulley bearing can cause a racket around the alternator area. Check the serpentine belt for any cracks, wear, or signs of excessive oil contamination. Look at the tensioner pulley for any wobble or excessive play. While the engine is off, press down on the belt with your thumb. There should be some give, but it shouldn't be slack.Hope this helps.

Well, I am now able to answer the burning question that many of you have... Yes, I'm afraid that new cars have the dreaded Mutlu battery in them But, the one I've got seems to be in rude health (it's been standing doing nothing for 3 days...) ...and that is positively my last word about batteries!!

I think that that is the more likely one... Well of course! You know why that is don't you? They're all hooligans in Italy! Bit like @Cyker really! 🤣 (running for cover... 😉)

I don't know, it's lighter than air.

Oi I'm no hooligan! ... I just drive like one sometimes...

It always needs a reset every time you do anything with the tyres, even if you just increase the pressure in them a little.

Yeah that’s what they said, that if anyone else other than a Toyota dealership does any work on the car at all then the warranty is completely void! The chancers… I’ve only ever owned cars that were proper second hand, sometimes third hand and were “sold as seen” so to speak. This is the first newish car I’ve owned that comes with a proper warranty. The new tyre was a completely brand new one so that’s interesting because the other tyres will need replacing just before the MOT in November so yeah…that’s very helpful! All this advice is really helpful because it gives me something to go in with, thank you!

As others have said, servicing at Toyota on a car outside the manufacturers warranty will extend it up to 10yr, but requiring a new car to be maintained within the dealer network to maintain warranty was made illegal, in Europe at least, many moons ago. Manufacturers are no longer allowed to hold a gun to your head. As long as the car is serviced to the same schedule as it would be at a Toyota dealership, and the same parts are used, there's no reason the warranty wil still be intact. I've never had to service our Toyota yet, but with every other manufacturer I've owned, the problem has been I've never found an indi or specialist to be any cheaper ( often found them to be more expensive ). If they're slightly cheaper then the main dealer has always matched their price. If it's being serviced much cheaper elsewhere, chances are they're not servicing it to the manufacturers recommendations.

Is this what they told you? It is literally against the law for them to invalidate the warranty just because you took the car somewhere else, as long as they're VAT-registered and use the right parts and materials. They definitely couldn't invalidate the warranty just from you getting someone else to look at the car. One other thing I was wondering, is if the other tyres are quite old and thus worn - If so, the new one will be slightly bigger as it'll have more tread, but I don't know how sensitive the passive TPMS system is and whether it would notice that...

Hi Gayle.since you've already booked your Aygo for a full inspection, you can definitely highlight these possibilities to the dealership. Explain that it's an indirect system.Ask them to check the owner's manual or relevant resources for the proper reset procedure specific to your Aygo. Mention the possibility of a faulty ABS wheel speed sensor causing the issue and request them to inspect the sensors for any damage.Ask them to confirm they have done this on your invoice

IIRC the Aygo doesn't use TPMS sensors, and detects punctures by sensing if one wheel isn't turning at the same rate as the others. It may just be there's a reset procedure that needs to be done (Check the manual), or there is some damage to one of the ABS wheel speed sensors which is causing this intermittently. In my experience Toyota dealers tend not to be very good at diagnostics; You may be better off finding an experienced local garage or mechanic with a good reputation to look at it. Edit: One stupid thing to check is the wheels are all the same size - Check the tyre sidewalls for something that looks like 175/55r15 or something like that, and make sure they're the same on all the tyres. It's unlikely but possible the wrong sized tyre was put on!

Owned a used 2016 for 5 years. Never once serviced at the dealer. Had 4 oil and filter changes during that time, took it to national tyres which was about £50-60 per change. It just needs oil & oil filter change as the main part. Changed the air filter once and couple of times the pollen filter, that's it. Saved 700-800 from dealership price. Now I have a new car have to service at the dealer for a few times at least to maintain warranty.

Hello Shelagh, Welcome to our forum, I owned a 2016 hybrid yaris, my next door neighbour owns a 2023, he is very content with it...... You will be saving a lot on petrol. Self charge, no need to plug in. Automatic gearbox, most of the cars nowadays are Auto, easy to drive, you left leg will rest, you will need only right one for the break and accelerator.... I did find it roomy enough for myself, am tall and big guy.... I am very happy for you, great choice !!!!

welcome Shelagh...good choice.

Hi Shelagh, welcome to the TOC. You will not be disappointed, it's the best small car on the market, I'm on my third Yaris and my 7th Toyota. Enjoy your new car, we love pictures, keep us posted.

Toyota dealers won't use non-Toyota parts, probably a condition of their franchise or something. My advice is just get a modest portable jump starter and leave it somewhere still accessible in the car when the battery goes (i.e. not the boot!), check its charge every 6 months or so, and leave things as they are. When the 12v battery does eventually die, you can jump start it then take to Halfords or something to get the Yuasa battery and even have them fit it if you want. I've been doing that for the past 3 years and still haven't had the 12v battery fail

Thanks for reply. It's only through reading this forum I became aware of possible battery problems. I will certainly monitor this and push for yuasa when it goes in for service. Wearing my "Where's my free battery upgrade"? t-shirt might do it?

You need to think about resale value as well. You have got a Design. Adding a lot, or even all, of the Excel bits won't make it an Excel, so it will still resell at Design prices ... or less even as the trade are wary of modified cars. Standard rules!

You need to be brave! The popper catch is tough and there is a U clip at the front edge that needs to come up and off simultaneously! A good hard tug upwards around the middle and front edge of the offside rear passenger seat and they will both disengage. It feels like you are going to damage the seat but you won't because it's bendy and pretty forgiving. I then use a good stiff small cardboard box to jam under the seat to keep it up and out of the way. There are then 2 clips to remove so that you can lift the cloth cover, that covers the access to the battery... Yes, it does. None at all. I was just fitting a BM6 plus a charger tail (maybe) for future use... Belt and braces and all that... 😉

Premium tyres with discount for the price of mid range? That’s what I always do. If you really want Kumho tyres they can be very good or very bad. Ecsta are usually a good one , I had them previously on my Auris and they were absolutely fine. 215/45 17

Hi Mark, The ease and cost of fixing the issue depend on the specific cause. If it's just a loose belt, tightening it should be relatively easy and inexpensive. However, if it's a problem with the alternator itself, it could be more involved and costly. A loose belt over time, can stretch or wear out, causing them to become loose and create noise.Worn out pulleys that are worn or misaligned can cause the belts to slip or make noise. A faulty alternator an also be a cause, if the alternator bearings are worn out or if there's an internal issue with the alternator, it could cause noise. Sometimes other components driven by the belt such as the water pump or power steering pump can develop issues that create noise. If you are not confident to investigate any of these then It's best to have a mechanic inspect the vehicle to determine the exact cause and provide an accurate estimate for the repair.Hope this helps

I imagine it is a bit revvy on some of those welsh hills!! I remember once we had a conference there and we were 3-up in a colleagues' 1 litre VW Polo... that was a mistake; Poor thing could barely get up some of the hills without going into 1st!

Have you tried spinning the wheels in the air to check they're spinning evenly and aren't eccentric? I just noticed you said it only happens at 70-80mph - If that's the case, it may just be the road surface imperfections resonating with the rim; At such low profile the tyres will basically be doing nothing to absorb the roughness of the road surface, and the shocks probably won't have been tuned to damp them out.

Mine's great, probably joint 1st place with my Mk1 Yaris D4D! There are lots of stupid little niggly things with it, but they are mostly things that don't really matter. The handling improvements over the previous models show just how much effort Toyota put into the TNGA platform, and it drives less like the normal roly-poly Yaris fashion and more like a Fiesta, which is traditionally my benchmark for good handling in this class of car. The hybrid powertrain improvements are also worthy of praise - The fast pedal response and strong pull have made it a lot more fun to push. The fact that I can hoon it about and still get 70+mpg still amazes me when I get to empty, as does the fact I'm doing over 400 miles on 26-28L of fuel! Even my Tesla-owning friend is a bit jealous because I'm currently well in the lead of our informal cost-per mile competition

Yes, hence the bigger discounts for Michelin rubber!

Hiya, I’m not going to be a pillock with them but I’m not going to accept “there’s nothing wrong with the car” because warning lights come on for a reason, whether that be a sensor fault or something actually wrong with the tyres. I’m no mechanic admittedly but there’s surely something up with it for the light to come on as much as it does. Thing is, the car drives fine and when I check the pressures they’re always fine but I just know if I don’t check the pressures, it’ll bother me and the law of sod, the one time I don’t check them will be the one time I should! On a side note, if there was a slow puncture I’d know about it by now would you reckon? Thank you for this, I’ll definitely mention all of that - it’ll make me look like I know what I’m talking about 😉 I appreciate the reply 🙂

Michelin own ATS Euromaster.

I have a Yaris Cross design but would have preferred to purchase an Excel if it had an extra other than a satnav. I don’t see the point of spending more money on something I would never use as I have an excellent phone which connects to car play seamlessly.

This is what the well-meaning people mandating all these increasingly intrusive safety systems do not understand - You can't fix stupid. I'm just worried it'll escalate - I have a trucker friend and he got a new one last year (or the year before?) and he hates it because every time he uses e.g. the indicators all he can hear until he turns them off is "CAUTION! VEHICLE TURNING LEFT!" and the same with turning right or reversing, and he reckons, like our AVAS, it makes no difference - cyclists still try and squeeze up the inside, pedestrians still walk behind etc.

I used to do that in my Merc. No idea why they could not hear it. We should use the Indian system. As the speed drops the horn starts bipping and becomes a steady note when stopped.

TBH you can service it pretty much anywhere; Servicing just means changing the oil and oil and air filters for the most part; The main part of servicing is checking the car for problems but I have my doubts how much of that gets done. I think with hybrids there is an advantage to servicing them with Toyota, as they also do a hybrid healthcare check which adds additional warranty to the traction battery, and now with the Relax scheme it also adds a 1 year general warranty from the date of the service. It will cost more though - If price is the main factor then you're better off taking it to a local trusted mechanic as they can do the minimum required stuff for less than any of the franchised garages. The electrical side of the car mostly takes care of itself.

Hi Shelagh, welcome lots of good advice when you need it and always welcome when you give it. Congratulations on your first Toyota and let us know when it is delivered and your first impressions.Well done for joining the Toyota family.

Would not “a small reduction” be a more suitable term than “reasonable”? At the current premiums demanded, reasonable is the last way I would describe them. Let us be totally honest - car insurance companies have simply become hard-nosed, rip-off organiblockquotelockquote widget

Factory optimization to avoid to have and manufature two different power units. But they could effectively produce old and new motors and install the correct ones according to the requested power. By the way I see that also power changes according country. In Italy the Lounge grade that is quite equivalent to UK Excel one uses the 130 hp engine. The 115 engine is installed only on the two lower grades.

45Ah LN0 Yuasa matches the specs 🙂 I've posted the screenshot from the user manual which states the 12V battery requirements. They were probably unaware or ignorant. Found it once more for you 🙂 So to sum up the facts: 1. Central Degassing type 12V 2. Case size matches 3. 20HR capacity or greater 4. Ventilation type calcium battery 5. With handle YBX5202 matches all of them 🙂

I have a 23 TS with the 17 wheels, and road noise is much higher than other cars that I have owned. I drove one with the 16 wheels, and the comfort was much better. with the 17 wheels, I can feel every little bump on the road.

I was dreading what my renewal would be on my 2 cars. A 2015 Auris Hybrid TS Last year £507.04 AA wanted £654.00 5 years NCD. Went down to £603.49 when asked for anything better and so stayed with them. Comparison sites were from £550 but never heard of them plus cheapest quote wanted to use telematrics. 1996 Volvo 940 Estate 2.3 litre petrol. £287 last year, renewal quote £418.00!! Comparison quote of £230, so went with it! Volvo has 11 years NCD. Not bothered how good Zenith is as if accident damaged, I'm sure it will just be written off. Both insured Comprehensive and both covered for Business use. James.

Twice now at a local filling station I have seen a Tesla at the pumps 😂

It's a bit swings and roundabouts with petrol and diesel fires - Petrol will burn if you look at it funny, and has a tendency to explode because it vaporizes so easily, but it's relatively easy to put out, and spilt petrol evaporates fairly quickly and doesn't leave a slippery surface. Diesel won't combust without any outside help, e.g. dripping on a hot exhaust manifold, but once it gets going it burns very fiercely and is much harder to put out. Worse, if it gets on the road it doesn't evaporate but seeps into the tarmac and creates a very slippery surface, and even when cleaned off it can soak into the tarmac and 'sweat' back out in e.g. summer, which is why the general protocol is that whole section needs to be dug up and resurfaced unless it's a very minor spill. With Toyota hybrids, they are statistically the most reliable cars, even more so than EV's, so definitely not a 'pup'. It wasn't until other manufacturers started to put out hybrids that we started seeing reliability issues with theirs - They make the cars nicer and plusher on the surface, but cut corners and trim margins in the drivetrain where you can't see and just hope it lasts out the warranty period. When people complain about the cost of toyota hybrids, the incredible reliability is why the cost is relatively high - Toyota engineer the cars properly, they don't cut corners on the important things. It's why reviewers always have a bias against Toyotas - They only have the car for 2 minutes and are obsessed with the cabin materials and harp on about contrast stitching and soft plastics and what kind of cow the leather came from and how the wood smells or how big the touch screen and alloy rims are etc. Because of that, many manufacturers build cars to those things to score points with the reviewers, but cut corners in the parts that reviewers never touch upon, things that, to me at least, actually matter; That's why in all other cars you can expect to have to replace random bushings, bearings, suspension components, hoses etc. several times over the course of its life, which I thought was a normal thing with cars, but now Toyota have shown me that isn't the case I can't go back to that! I even love the little things like they put an access hatch to get at the oil filter so you don't have to undo a bazillion fasteners to remove the entire undertray, or that there's a hook for the fuel filler cap so it doesn't just rest on the bodywork. They ain't perfect but they got it where it counts, to paraphrase Han Solo

Haha, I did put them back!!!

Argo, maybe - our son has one which I drive occasionally Argo X - not my cup of tea. I’ve driven a couple, but didn’t enjoy them at all. Yaris Hybrid - most definitely. Brilliant cars. More efficient than the Aygo.

I’d love one as a second vehicle if I could justify the expense. I really enjoyed that little car and although the front bumper, roof lining, back seat and dash would be out the first week, I do enjoy those little projects.

I changed from a very reliable MK3 Yaris. I do miss that car but I don't regret going for the MK4 at all. So many cool features.

I do not regret buying a MK4 Yaris If you buy a non Hybrid car you can still have 12 volt problems if it used only on short runs or just one or twice a week on short trips.

Why anyone would regret buying the best car in class? Battery problem it’s not on each and every car. There are many that had it but not all. If you have a battery issue just buy a new better quality battery and you will be alright. Yaris mk4 is really good car 👍

I would have bought it again despite the issues I'm having with it 🙂 It charges when you have your "ignition" on (Ready text displayed). It uses the high voltage battery to charge the 12v battery. Mileage doesn't matter, only time. It discharges as it powers various systems onboard the car as the high voltage one is used for driving, A/C and charging 12v only. So everything else is powered from 12v. That's why you don't want to use the car (radio, lights, etc) without Ready state as it discharges the battery which is rather small. But there are things that discharge the battery even if you are not doing anything and these are remote control module, keyless entry module and some power taken by standby mode of a car computer. They will use up fully charged 12v battery in around a month, probably less. Experience may vary. So if you drive occasionally and only short periods, the battery will fail you sooner or later

Easy answer, no

The boot light is on a timer but open then close reopen will re start the count down to off. You can always just disconnect the light the Yaris cross has its own switch so you can turn it off from what I understand. You can always just plug the 12 volt battery into a smart charger have the garage fit an appropiate lead as part of your deal thats one option.