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The MK4 is the best small automatic car in the world, your one is mk 4.5 shall we call it. Am very satisfied with the normal 116 hp.

Apart from 2 forays into other marques I've pretty much bought Fords, and mostly the XR/ST/RS ones at that, my whole life. I only switched to Toyota due to Ford withdrawing the Fiesta as I really missed the smaller cars. And their obsession with electric only 🤔 So I was always going to be a reluctant soldier and my purchase was going to be full of scepticism and maybe (hopefully not) regret. But I have to say that I absolutely love the Premiere edition because: - I love the blue colour - The body shape is excellent - The economy is amazing - It drives beautifully - It's a technical tour de force. Love playing with the throttle to try and tease as much economy out of it as I can and the HUD is just fab - The adaptive cruise is more intelligent than Ford's - The ability of the speed limiter to match itself to the current speed limit with just one button press is just excellent. I use the speed limiter constantly so this is really good - Mrs Dastardly (Penelope?) loves it - The configuration options on the dashboard are excellent. - It just feels like it's been designed by boffins, rather than people in overalls But it's not all roses 🌹 Some, albeit minor, annoyances. - The engine is quite harsh/growly. Ford's 3 pot system is much smoother and not nearly as loud. - The door handles feel quite flimsy due to being quite thin but I'm sure I'll get used to that. - The positioning of the window controls are a little strange compared to what I am used to. Very high up. Probably just me though - Severe lack of internal storage. Door pockets are tiny, no opportunity to store anything in the centre console - Quite annoying that your personal options, e.g. turning off PCA, resets every time you re-start the engine, unless I'm just being thick - The "Hold" button resetting itself on every journey is bizarre. Should remember the setting or just be a configurable menu option. - Lack of factory options e.g. sunroof, heated seats. Would have paid for both The negatives are just minor/personal really as the positives are so good. Haven't been this happy with a new car acquisition for a long time 👍

OMG!!! I have just found the lumber support switch on the side of the driver's seat lower housing!!! It is awesome!! (now my wife is jealous because her seat doesn't have one! 😢)

Reduced the tyre pressures on my new Excel yesterday; it had been supplied with the tyres set at 39psi front and 36psi rear (no surprise based on others’ experience…). I reset the TPMS, all reporting ok. This morning when I picked up my phone I saw an alert (time stamped 4am) from the myToyota app informing me there had been a sudden loss of pressure. Checked tyres and all are ok; this must have been a delayed message from me deflating the tyres yesterday morning. Really useful, thanks Toyota 🙄

Theoretically if it has been serviced according to schedule (intermediate year 1, full year 2, etc) the next full service should be 2025 (10 years/100K miles). The first coolant change will be due at this service, with subsequent coolant changes every 5 years/50K miles. If you use a Toyota dealer for servicing, I'd be inclined to see what they suggest for this year.

It might well function as a basic code reader. I have a Bluetooth connected, app. based battery tester from that same brand which works perfectly well and has not fried anything. e.g.

Nope. New one.

Eh? Dealers will always haggle. I have never, ever paid list. I expect a good % off then start asking for extras: mats, ceramic coat, fuel, free services thrown in and always succeed. As long as you are polite, have done your research (get prices from Carwow/ auto trader/ what car etc and also use forums to see what others are getting as extras or % off) you should always pay well under. if you are fortunate enough to pay cash then getting the pcp deposit allowance and then paying the pcp off within 30 days is always a nice easy win! “Shy bairns get nowt” as they say from my neck of the woods😉

There have been a few reports here. I suggest you do what the message suggests and book the car into a dealer for an examination as soon as possible.

LOL...OH found that day 1 and was suitably impressed also!

Going shopping for a car with you sounds like a really joyous occasion.

First ensure that the ignition is on as the option is not visible if you are only in Accessory mode. In the main centre console press on the Settings icon then there is a menu link on the left called "vehicle settings" They keyless door/start option is under that. Bear in mind that if you turn it off then you also turn off keyless start you you need to hold your key next to the start button when putting into Ready mode. You'll get a confirmatory beep. This is a minor annoyance but you're getting extra security so I feel it's worth it

Next time I will take the car to the dealer- "Fix!" Yes, I could DIY but why should I? BTW, last car was sold by a very keen, helpful, young kid. Come the time to collect it, another VKHYK did the honours and was very keen to get 10/10 score. Even came out to sort out the connections. Current salesman has a new title, a stubble masquerading as a beard, and will be lucky to get 5/10. Bet he won't go the extra yard.

Thanks for the detailed review, waiting till June for mine (exact same) so appreciate any good info👍

So today after much deliberation my father in law had ordered a pearl white Excel, alongside my premiere edition ! The dealer are doing us a good deal as we now have x2 24 Yaris Crosses on order with them 🙂 They have said my Yaris Premiere has now moved from order placed to ‘in production’ and showroom delivery ETA is expected July .. wohoo 🥳 progress.

Agreed; Sometimes mine works really well, and other times I have to change the sensitivity switch constantly or give up and override it. Mildly annoying but not the end of the world; As anchs says It's a shame you can't just disable the auto-sensing completely and use the sensitivity switch to control the intermittent interval instead on the newer ones - That would have been my preference!

The discs do look tired and have quite a lip on them. You can't see the friction material of the pads properly without taking the wheels off - and ideally taking the pads out. So we cannot confirm the 'crumbling'. It is possible that the brakes have at some point been sticking and getting very hot. This can cause some pads to disintegrate. The question is, how many mm is left on the pads? If it's near 3 mm on any of them - they should be replaced. How thick are the discs? i.e. how close to the minimum thickness are they? That said, if the pads need replacing, then you do want new discs too. I would not put new pads on those old discs.

I would ask for proof of "crumbling" That is not normal, it could just be a very poor description of course

It worked on mine, only bit I got wrong the average consumption will not go show zeros it will show '--/--'. If you get the on-line owners manual from the Toyota official website it seems to have a lot more information than the hard copy supplied with the car, unless you're the anorak type like me it's awfully heavy going to read through.

Ok thanks but i drove the car for a couple of blocks to check brakes. The brakes are working fine and the brake fluid did not leak. Does it mean that the bleed valve is still closed ? So i can use the car until it id repaired? I also check the brake reservoir at master cylinder and it is full.

Probably the best (non SUV) Toyota so far, but unfortunately not coming to UK? https://youtu.be/uqbWadog8Y0?si=1sWP0L4H1cydytiL

Someone posted a link to a kit a while back (Albeit out of stock), if I find it I'll stick it here. Wasn't cheap though, but that sort of modification never is - Note that I was just saying such things exist, not that you should do it; IMHO* you'd be better off putting that money towards a car more suited to what you're after (Like... say.... a Mk4 Yaris Hybrid 130? ) BTW what do you mean known to burn oil? After 100k miles I'd expect most engines to start using a bit of oil as the tolerances wear out a bit, but as long as it wasn't as extreme as the sort of oil loss I was seeing on my 2009 Mk2 Yaris 1.33VVTi then I don't think it'd need worrying about. Even my Mk1 D4D would use a bit of oil over time (Only really noticeable if I was hooning it about ), and IIRC** I had that up to 100k miles before it got KHAAAAN'd. As for doing more oil changes, absolutely no harm in doing that and may even help resell value as it shows the car's been looked after. The engine will definitely like it as it'll help keep the chain in especially good condition! *In My Humble Opinion **If I Recall Correctly

Well I come from a Gen 2 and I love how the 4 looks because it’s different! As far as luggage space goes I reckon there’s not much in it, maybe slightly bigger in the 4 As far as driving the 4 compared to the 2 there’s a huge difference; it’s much more comfortable, quieter, quicker and seems to handle pretty well too You might be right Bper about it being more expensive than other hybrids at the time and maybe there were better deals for taxi drivers

Has anyone any tips for getting the plastic cover off the front bumper?

In what sense? If you mean that it's occasionally incorrect then you'll probably have to live with it. None of these systems are infallible. Toyota's systems appear to use map information as a starting point with the camera in the windscreen overriding it if a limit sign is detected. And it's the camera that is the problem. It can detect signs that apply to a nearby road instead of the one being driven on. It can detect early warning signs (no red circle) and display the change before it actually happens. It can fail to spot a relevant sign. It can think that weight specific limits apply to it - an example of this is the A75 in Scotland. Several stretches are marked as being 40mph for HGVs but the car just reads the 40mph sign and displays that as the current limit. It works reasonably well most of the time but one of things I'm not looking forward to when I change my car is that new vehicles are legally required to alert the driver to limit changes and overruns. Given how fallible the system is that could be very irritating. Especially since I always know the speed limit without recourse to computer prompting.

Thanks so much for the help! I’ve taken off the dash, stereo, glove box etc, and found the selected lever pulls a white cord or tube in and out of a white plastic box that is buried deep behind a lot of other stuff closer to the steering column. Fearing it could be beyond my expertise to take all that off to get inside that box… might just have to pay the man… but Thankyou again for your help

I got mines from Eurocar parts, just put your reg number in the website and they should show up. You'll need to buy the two separately, don't come as a pair

And old design seats

Yes old model with old sat nav dashboard etc

Last of old line and not first of the new.

EV mode then power is circa 230hp max but Toyota curtail the power delivery above 50mph. My experience from testing. Hybrid mode then the 306hp DIN is available. Motors plus ICE working together. Battery does not need to be charged to get the full power in hybrid mode. There's a reserve in the traction battery which is near on impossible to deplete. I've tried especially hard and I've got it to almost zero but failed to get it to zero. The second you aren't accelerating that reserve is topped up from the generator on the ICE. This happens pretty quick. I'd say the only risk of totally flattening the reserve is by caning it at 90mph with frequent acceleration bursts towing a caravan up hill. Note that hybrid mode does not give you full 306hp if the engine is cold. Takes 3 to 8 minutes to warm up (depending on outside temperature) before full power is made available. Until then you are looking at 230hp. Again, I've tested this. Personally, I manually select between EV and Hybrid mode rather than use Auto. I know where I'm going and can maximise use of the traction battery to ensure I empty it rather than using petrol. So if I'm on the motorway I'll switch to EV mode when in a jam or it's the average 50mph speed limit thing and when off the motorway I'll use EV mode. Eventually I've got good at deciding when to switch. Whether the above is as good as the Auto mode is another matter. Eco, Normal and Sport modes change the throttle response (sensitivity of the accelerator pedal), steering weight (I think), and the Aircon performance. I usually run the car in sport mode.

@einfachGaer and @RickyC My keyless entry is turned off which probably explains the lack of beeping noise.

you will have to wire in a reverse from the instrument panel junction box aka internal fuse box pin 28 or 29 pictures courtesy of Luca (lhd)

Good to know about the app being unreliable, I won’t get my hopes up with it. Thanks for sharing

The 1KR has proven to be a very reliable engine - I don't think it has any common oil burning issues except where it's been abused (And by abused I don't even mean being ragged a lot, but just not being maintained properly). The fact that you can get off-the-shelf turbo and supercharger kits for it just show how robust it is.

It’s all EEC Legislation again and the use of regulation 55/60W bulbs. Just get some legal upgrades - Nightbreakers or similar.

They’re doing a lot better these days. My mate ordered a Juniper Blue Yaris car, Excel with pan roof on 25/1 with an estimated delivery of 26/4 but it was ready for delivery on 8/3. The app by the way said processing order until the day it was delivered so that was no help whatsoever.

Mine beeps very loud if I exit the car with the key in my pocket and close ANY door ... This could never happen to me. No idea why yours doesn't do that?!

Yes it is! I kept nudging the wife going "Look at that! Look look!!"

Meh... £10k to change my car! Seems the trade-in values have dropped off a cliff. I would need to sell privately to get what it is worth, and then the discount on the new car is still pretty much non-existent. 😓 The changes to the new car are more extensive than it first appears. Parking mine alongside the new version (all changes are the new car): * Ride height is about 0.5" higher * Car has more front rake * Windshield line is brought further back * Roof line is more curved * Wing mirrors are a smudge wider * Steering is lighter and much more positive * Suspension is tuned and is even more firm/even less body roll in corners and virtually no nose dip even under hard braking * Front suspension/geometry improved resulting in much reduced loss of traction/no loss of traction in aggressive cornering under power * More refined power delivery I didn't really get to try any of the improved electronics. TSS 3.0 seems to have a new feature where it will steer away from kerbs even though steering assist is off. I saw this behavior on the Corolla and hated it. I still couldn't find a way to totally disable this feature. I like it, but not enough to pay another £10k.

Surely the answer is "one" 🤔?

At last we managed a long run today (200mile round trip) so I can start to share my thoughts about our shiny new Blue Demon! First things first, please ignore the mpg in my sig as it is wrong. I made a mistake when entering our first full tank fuel up and because Fuelly caches stuff, the real measured figure of 56.8mpg, probably won't show until tomorrow. Not withstanding my mess up, I am really impressed with even 56.8 for a first neck to neck anyway! The Red Baron (my previous Launch Edition 2020 car) only managed 48.3 at its first so I am well impressed with Blue Demon's efforts and when you consider that everything will be a bit "tight" etc, that's a great result. Also, it wasn't that hot today either barely getting above 11-12 degrees C so that should be borne in mind... So, what do I think of the new car and the way that the new (more powerful) drivetrain works? As an overall impression and please bear in mind that everything I may say is very subjective and just my opinion based on comparing it with my previous car, I would have to say that I am very impressed with the many improvements but also a bit frustrated with some of the annoyances! One of the first things that hit us both as we settled down to a cruise at about 65mph was just how quiet it was inside compared to the Red Baron. When I opened the driver's window ajar (the top kept within the wind deflector depth) it didn't even seem to be as loud then either. In my opinion, they have certainly beefed up the insulation in some way or ways. You can still make the engine "growl" if you want but even that seems to be a bit more muted than before. Most of the journey on the main roads (either dual carriageway or motorway) was completed using adaptive cruise control and this highlighted something straight away. There seems to have been a lot of improvements in the software department in regard to how things operate now. The system as a whole seems to be a lot less aggressive and "rough around the edges". Things like lane centring and speed matching are a lot smoother and more well controlled. Especially good now is the way it takes a curve when, for example, you go from one motorway to another at an intersection which usually involves some long sweeping slip road bends as you traverse from one to the other and some measure of speed reduction is usually required in the process. Guess what? It is now virtually automatic and oh so smooth in execution! First, it measures the bend well and steers it very gently with no jerks at all whilst at the same time gently slowing the vehicle in the process by some 10-15mph as you negotiate the bend and once the road straightens out again and you are on the next motorway, it gently regains the speed you were travelling at before! All in all, a very well managed process. The radar is also so good now it virtually never lost the lane markings or edge of the road once all the way there. Even around town it is so well mannered even at very slow speeds. We tried the built-in Nav for a time and also Android Auto but eventually stayed with the latter as the built-in Nav is so old fashioned in terms of its display (a personal preference I know) and harks back to the days of TomTom displays. I'm afraid Google beats it hands down with a full screen of realistic looking landscapes from satellite shot overlays and is so much more relatable with what you are actually seeing on the road instead of spidery roadmaps with no features on it at all. One nice change I really liked is that the interior rear view mirror can also go straight up and down now as well as the usual ball joint adjustment. This is particularly useful for people like myself with a 6'3" frame and also allows more of the windscreen between the top of the (bigger) head unit and the base of the mirror, to be clear and unobstructed ahead. Also at last they have separated the nav voice and audio stream properly in that you can adjust them separately now from the same control now (which didn't work at all well before). Anyway, I've probably gone on long enough for now so I'll finish this episode here and will offer some more thoughts later...

Looking at the picture, I think you have the 1.8? I have used the Auris space saver but it was slightly too tall to use the original floor. I asked on this forum whether the corolla space saver was slightly lower but no-one seemed to know. So I took the plunge .. the prices quoted are from 2 years ago. HB 1.8 boot conversion to hold a spare wheel.docx

I remember the AA would do a pre sale survey. It was certainly advised for a private/dodgy sale.

A few years ago I used Hal fords to replace my brake discs and pads and it came with a 'brakes for life' offer, they would replace the same parts again free if ever needed. The scheme also can be transferred on to another car if you sell, though they have to inspect the replacement car within a couple of weeks of you buying it. I transferred mine to my YC when I bought it, but as it was nearly new no work was needed. I've not yet had to ask them to replace my disks and pads but we'll see when the time comes.

Believe it or not, but I am actually using the passenger side compartment for CDs (the case for my TNS DVD and a music CD from a Danish with the album title "Fantastiske Toyota"). Under the passenger seat I store the handbook, the manuals and keys for my roof bars, skiholders and bicycle rack as well as a printed copy of the brochure (I wish I could find an original) - which shows the CD storage like so, and small reem of paper with my Yaris pen. The clove box has some tissues, some spare bulbs, and maybe a few other things (I don't remember if I have my torque tool for the roof bar there or under the seat with the keys and manuals). Top compartment I mostly just keep chewing gum. Under the wheel I mainly have my sunglasses. (The catalouge is the Danish 2003 edition and car shown is a "linea Sol" (top speced variant) indicated by chrome/leather gear stick (similar to T-Sport), remote buttons on the steering wheel (leather), electrical windows and central locking system as well as sluminium coloured control panel for the ventilation and door handles and coloured bumper lines - they show the standard variant "Terra" in other parts of the catalouge as well as the T-Sport variant of course - but look: There is room for five CDs! On each side - enough for a really long drive for sure 😉 )

My Mk3 is lacking storage space in the dash & usually I end up using the cup holders.

As per others, it's wear and tear. If the dealer is smart, he'll say " Wear and tear not covered by warranty but as a goodwill gesture, we'll fit them FOC, when do you want to book the car in? Scotland you say? Sorry but our free pickup / drop off doesn't extend that far" 🤣 But seriously, I don't know how much Toyota charge for replacement pads and discs but I had to do this recently on my Skoda and they were asking £££'s. The cheapest option for me was to buy the parts from EuroCarParts who also offer a fitting service. You buy the parts online as normal then they will give you a list of garages to choose from who'll display a fitting price. The parts are then sent directly to that garage and hey presto. I really did find that much cheaper than the manufacturer or having the work carried out at a fast-fit centre. Hope that helps.

From what I've seen, the ones that are refusing to insure hybrids are the ones that have a poor reputation anyway; They're the ones that do whatever they can to avoid paying out to anybody and just want to have your money but provide as little service as possible. There are a few that even if they gave me the cheapest quote I'd go to the next one up because I wouldn't trust them!

The Design trim comes with a space saver wheel.