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Apart from 2 forays into other marques I've pretty much bought Fords, and mostly the XR/ST/RS ones at that, my whole life. I only switched to Toyota due to Ford withdrawing the Fiesta as I really missed the smaller cars. And their obsession with electric only 🤔 So I was always going to be a reluctant soldier and my purchase was going to be full of scepticism and maybe (hopefully not) regret. But I have to say that I absolutely love the Premiere edition because: - I love the blue colour - The body shape is excellent - The economy is amazing - It drives beautifully - It's a technical tour de force. Love playing with the throttle to try and tease as much economy out of it as I can and the HUD is just fab - The adaptive cruise is more intelligent than Ford's - The ability of the speed limiter to match itself to the current speed limit with just one button press is just excellent. I use the speed limiter constantly so this is really good - Mrs Dastardly (Penelope?) loves it - The configuration options on the dashboard are excellent. - It just feels like it's been designed by boffins, rather than people in overalls But it's not all roses 🌹 Some, albeit minor, annoyances. - The engine is quite harsh/growly. Ford's 3 pot system is much smoother and not nearly as loud. - The door handles feel quite flimsy due to being quite thin but I'm sure I'll get used to that. - The positioning of the window controls are a little strange compared to what I am used to. Very high up. Probably just me though - Severe lack of internal storage. Door pockets are tiny, no opportunity to store anything in the centre console - Quite annoying that your personal options, e.g. turning off PCA, resets every time you re-start the engine, unless I'm just being thick - The "Hold" button resetting itself on every journey is bizarre. Should remember the setting or just be a configurable menu option. - Lack of factory options e.g. sunroof, heated seats. Would have paid for both The negatives are just minor/personal really as the positives are so good. Haven't been this happy with a new car acquisition for a long time 👍

They won't, manufacturers under are pressure to reduce their carbon footprint, they use far less oil in an engine these days and a lot of manufacturers have extended service intervals, not less. Modern oils are much better than the old days of 20w-50 that needed changing every 5-6000 miles. Imagine how many millions of litres of old used oil would need recycling if every new car needed a 1000 mile oil change

I am still plugging in every day and it takes less than a minute to get the ctek5 to show 4 lights. Yesterday I went to the doctors and had to park in a side road about 15 minutes walk from the surgery. I got out of the car and pressed the key......nothing happened so I thought pollocks, the fob battery must be flat. No choice but to walk to my appointment and leave the car unlocked. For the next 45 minutes all I could think of was whether the key fob would start the car. Got back to the car I pressed the fob a few more times with no flashing lights, tentatively got in and.........no wonder it wouldn't lock. It was sitting there in ready mode. At least it had probably charged up the battery but good job it didn't get pinched.

I never struggled with rear vision, I can work out where the back is by using the mirrors and the camera. Of course my work vehicle is a tad bigger. A mate of mine filmed me passing him yesterday but his is even bigger than mine. e542c1a3-4b03-4e55-8377-47ab8ec994a5.mp4

I've stopped to count the times that happened to me 😇. I park, get down from te car, press the keyfob and.... nothing. Open the door and a big READY label explains why !!!!!! 😉

After a 7.5 month wait our Premiere Edition has finally arrived , affectionately named “Tony” by the CEO (someone will work it out) and has gone straight to a local company for a paint correction and full Gtechniq Ceramic coating. I requested the car be unmolested other than the few bits of plastic transit film removing to avoid the detailer having to remove scratches imparted by the “highly skilled” car cleaners dealers employ. Having spent an afternoon on the drive getting used to things I got our iPhones , Apple Car play , Waze and Spotify all sorted in a few minutes. The amount of customisation on combimeter will take time to decide which layout we prefer. The short drive to the detailer was a total vindication on going all in with the PE. The looks are marmite , but we love them including the bi-tone paint, the Sulphur really pops in sunlight and the panoramic roof lifts the interior. The JBL sound system is great , infotainment screen big and clear and the whole car feels much more refined than our old 2.0 Excel, the extra bit of width in the cabin now makes it feel “just right” for us. The Head Up Display is very useful and the digital rear view mirror a vast improvement, but you do need to recalibrate your brain to a totally different rear view perspective. I’ll admit to not having much idea yet on all of the “Driver Assistance” systems , despite having read the manual, time will tell what I like / dislike. After being without a CHR for nearly 9 months it’s a pleasure to back in the new model and initial impressions are that it was well worth holding out for what will hopefully be a long term keeper. The new CHR is now a lot more expensive than the outgoing model , but deals are there to be had on CarWow, and IMO it does feel like a significant improvement over the outgoing model, which it ought to.

They know Chris but there are a lot of cars with no problems and the floodgates will open on those too. Have a read through the thread and you’ll find many a noble crusader that wants to tell Toyota a thing or two. You’ll end up going to a lot of effort for nothing and you might eventually get a new battery but at this stage, probably the same as the one you’ve got. It is actually in hand and they are working on it but the best thing you can do is spend £75 and 20 minutes sticking a new Yuasa battery under the back seat and be done with it. Your faith will be restored in what is actually a very good car.

I absolutely love and respect the folk who buy new cars and sell them on 2 or 3 years later with fairly low mileage. They enable me to buy them at a fraction of the cost of a new one 🙂 . But joking aside, I got over my desire for new cars after 30 odd years of driving company cars that were replaced every 2 or 3 years (but with pretty high mileages on them). That included two Toyotas - the experience of which resulted in my buying that brand when I went self-employed.

As regards tips, I make sure that my household staff are paid above the minimum wage, and always get extra walnuts and oranges at Christmas 🎄.

My Yaris MK4 hybrid system failed a couple of weeks ago, the dash lit up like a Christmas tree and I managed to limp it back to the local dealer. Having read the forum regarding this issue I thought I was in for the long haul but after just over a week the car was ready to pick up, having had a new damper installed and I have to say it feels better (tighter) and more responsive. Thankyou Toyota and thankyou RRG Huddersfield for your prompt assistance, my faith in Toyota which had been slightly dented, has been fully restored.

Preventative purposes, we see a lot of cars (all makes) and quite a few have injector issues, we don't like selling add on's, people always feel conned, but we feel it's a good measure with both petrol and diesel models

I do if the terms mean I’ll make more by doing it. Toyota Corp has got a bigger bank balance than me so if they’ll pay the finance while my money makes a few bob in the bank, I’ll let them.

The MK4 is the best small automatic car in the world, your one is mk 4.5 shall we call it. Am very satisfied with the normal 116 hp.

EV mode then power is circa 230hp max but Toyota curtail the power delivery above 50mph. My experience from testing. Hybrid mode then the 306hp DIN is available. Motors plus ICE working together. Battery does not need to be charged to get the full power in hybrid mode. There's a reserve in the traction battery which is near on impossible to deplete. I've tried especially hard and I've got it to almost zero but failed to get it to zero. The second you aren't accelerating that reserve is topped up from the generator on the ICE. This happens pretty quick. I'd say the only risk of totally flattening the reserve is by caning it at 90mph with frequent acceleration bursts towing a caravan up hill. Note that hybrid mode does not give you full 306hp if the engine is cold. Takes 3 to 8 minutes to warm up (depending on outside temperature) before full power is made available. Until then you are looking at 230hp. Again, I've tested this. Personally, I manually select between EV and Hybrid mode rather than use Auto. I know where I'm going and can maximise use of the traction battery to ensure I empty it rather than using petrol. So if I'm on the motorway I'll switch to EV mode when in a jam or it's the average 50mph speed limit thing and when off the motorway I'll use EV mode. Eventually I've got good at deciding when to switch. Whether the above is as good as the Auto mode is another matter. Eco, Normal and Sport modes change the throttle response (sensitivity of the accelerator pedal), steering weight (I think), and the Aircon performance. I usually run the car in sport mode.

Bring back 20w 50, now that was a REAL man’s oil….

The e in the eCVT is the way the computer works to vary the ratio of the epicyclic geartrain. In other transmissions they would have servos and clutches to lock fixed ratios but in an eCVT they use the speed of MG1 to vary the input or sun gear. It’s very clever and all the competitors would love to mimic it but it’s locked down with patents. So! They can spin that sun gear anywhere from faster than the output (vehicle speed) which gives low ratios to the same speed which gives 1:1 to actually turning it backwards to give overdrive ratios. This is all in an attempt to keep the engine in its most efficient range which is between 1500 to 2000rpm. If you’re on the motorway and you floor it you are loading it in the overdrive ratio and as you correctly surmise, at lower speeds you use lower ratios. You can understand why that damper wants to breakaway because that’s when there’s most load on it. The ultra simple epicyclic geartrain is the star of the show for me. This clever little device is about the diameter of a saucer and the thickness of a pork pie and by locking it to MG2 via an outer cog, it forms the power split device that when working a bit like a diff’ becomes the power split device. It’s absolutely ingenious.

Thanks for all the suggestions. Yes, I will keep the NOCO ready but the biggest factor as far as I am concerned is that my wife has lost all faith in the car's reliability. That to me is the number one factor in choosing a brand and car. Whilst I am happy to rely on the NOCO, the Yaris Cross is my wife's car and I cannot expect her to use the NOCO. I am 80 and she will be very soon. A reliable car is an absolute must.

To be fair if you're buying new you have money to burn by definition! Buying a car new is not something a budget-conscious person would do - You loose so much money just driving it away! Even just waiting a few years will slash the price of it from new; You can get an early Mk4 for half the cost of a new one and they're barely 3 years old! That is what I was planning on doing if it hadn't been for KHAAAAN! (Well, that's not strictly true either as I was planning on running my Mk1 D4D into the ground waiting for my mythical 300+mile Yaris EV, but the Mk4 was the backup plan!), although finding one with a HUD would likely have been a bit tricky as it doesn't seem there are many aside from the Launch Editions, but those don't come with the bucket-load of sensors mine does (Which I'm hoping will help mine retain its value a bit more!!)

Hi I picked up me new car yesterday. Love it but I have a problem with the insurance. Twice spoke to Esure (😡) about changing the insurance from old car to new car expressly saying it was the 2024 model. Told her the car as the reg wasn’t recognised and she game up with a load of different ones for the design trim eg 134 HP HSD114 HP HSD vit 99 hp TSS 134 hp I kept saying it wasn’t any of them it was 116hp. In the end she said contact dealer and hung up! Phoned back the next day as getting desperate for insurance. The person said she had the right one but a bit difficult to understand. When I got the paperwork it has Yaris Hybrid Design HSD 114 bhp 1490. Dealer says it’s 116bhp which is what I had been saying. Tried a few sites and they bring up 2020 onwards which I don’t think is right. I can now put in to change my car online at Esure with my registration number but it just brings up what is already on the insurance. I didn’t want to take the car out today in case it wasn’t insured so will have to get back in touch with Esure but I don’t think I will get very far. has anyone else had any problems with insuring the new model. sorry for the ramble and thanks for reading. Anyway on a happier note this is my new car.

That's ideal and when you definitely don't need to do any interim changes as the car is used for long periods of continuous use. You service the car about three times per year. In that kind of use the engines will do very high mileage without any problems.

**UPDATE** I took my car in for the wheel to be examined and they agreed to request a new alloy from Toyota which has been approved. I'm booked in to have my new wheel fitted in the 1st week in may. 😄

Take what he says with a pinch of salt. This is not the first time he appears to be talking out his behind. Wear particles in an engine are under normal circumstances microscopic. If you can see metal particles in the filter, then you have big (end) problems going on. Gearbox oils is a different matter, there you will have loads of tiny metal pieces. Used gear oil will shimmer when stirred. This ^^ For the above reason, the trend is towards longer service intervals. Several manufacturers now run a 20k mile / 2 year oil service schedule. Personally, I only change more frequently in the cars that go on track. Everything else, follows the service schedule. But I do keep a very close eye on the level, the colour of the oil, and any visible staining inside engines. Oil-threads are such slippery slopes!

@Big_D I always pay the asking price because I find haggling rather distasteful and I also make sure I give the ladies who make me a cup of coffee, the delivery driver and the salesman a good tip. Makes the whole thing much more agreeable, I brighten a few peoples lives and within a couple of months I cant remember how much I paid anyway. Jobs a good un

...and it works well although it is very stiff in the straight up and down motion.

"Modern" cars have dual circuits, often split front and rear or diagonally. If you loose pressure (i.e. a puncture) in one circuit you will still have some ability to stop using the other two wheels. You will also have the mechanical handbrake to aid in an emergency. That bleed nipple is stuck and won't fall out off its own accord. Still, it is not something you want to try and, as I mentioned, you will need a functioning bleed nipple to replace the brake fluid sooner or later so it must be done by then anyway. Might as well spay rust penetrant on the brake line union now in preparation for replacing the wheel cylinder.

Slartybartfast thanks for your reply , turns out I did use the A.C fuse 🤦‍♂️. Have now changed it to the ACC one above and it’s working fine

Nope. New one.

Completed some cosmetic stuff today, courtesy of AliExpress (lol!) Piano black caps for all the doors to complete the look started(!) by Toyota! (cheapskates that they are!) (just noticed that I took that photo before I'd wiped it off properly!) Plus a full set of appropriately blue piped non-slip mats for all the various orifices that could generate rattling noises if objects are left in them! ...and yes, I know I've covered the wireless charger with a mat but since I was able to re-install my phone bracket to almost the same place as in the Red Baron, it will only get used rarely anyway... The mats work really well especially the one in front of the passenger seat where SWMBO tends to dump her house keys! 🤣

Old Chinese proverb, bitterness poor performance last longer than sweetness of low price.

I used to service Fiats with FIRE engines in them (when I couldn’t possibly avoid working on one) and they had the most ridiculous oil filler hole in the cam cover. It could take what seemed like an hour to get 20/50 through that hole. I’m still not friends with Fiats, I wouldn’t have one given to me if it had a manhole on top.

me, looking doubtfully at these modern technologies, holding a bucket of seep oil in my hand to lubricate the axles in my cart 😄

Fill your jeans up with treacle then try to run a marathon on a cold morning.

The user manual states 3.2 litre without filter and 3.5 litre with filter. There is no mention of sump plug torque. Normally it's about 25-35 Nm - not a lot. Not an opportunity to show off the gorilla muscles.

A hitchhiker, coming home tonight I saw a guy on the opposite side of the road with his thumb out hitching a lift, he was in an awkward place just before the road goes into a dual carriageway, so it would be potentially dangerous for someone to stop, I used to see hitchhikers all the time and have even given a lift to one years ago, mind you, that was leaving somewhere I was working and happened to be passing where they needed to be..

Bob, I treat the staff very well,of course, but they can't be trusted with the spirits,so a tantalus with a decorative padlock takes care of that. Likewise with the tea, the lockable tea caddy in mahogany on the credenza foils most attempts at theft. I must stop leaving the keys in the secret drawer in my buraeu however, I think they are onto me.

Lets also not forget they also spent £33M putting this in place, only for them to partially undo it, we don't know the cost of that yet, absolute shambles, but nothing like the money given to VIP lane clients in Covid, unbelievable

0DB60 Heated mirror, 0DB90 Heated, folding mirror, PM me your reg number I will check the proper part number for you

Dealer hiding info eh? Sounds dodgier than a dodgem operator with 20 dodgems to me. Please listen to what the others are saying and find another,the old saying "there's always another one" is true.

I just hope Toyota doesn't follow the slogan: Do you have the money for a new hybrid car? Then you can pay fines!

Yes, I’d never give anyone a lift whose carrying a chainsaw…

I was just about to say that rear view vision in my car is good but then I have the Yaris Cross and not the hatchback. Silly me.

130 hp is only available on the new 2024 cross premiere, not before.

One of the Mk4's weaknesses is poor visibility; Forward visibility is okay, but the A-pillars create blindspots which can obscure oncoming vehicles; I find they're particularly leery on roundabouts and I'm having to rock back and forth to look around them. The rear view mirror is very much in the way - I can see why GR owners cut a slot into the arm to allow it to be pushed higher. Rear visibility is probably the worst of all the Yaris models - The B and C pillars create huge blind spots all round with all the headrests covering what they don't, making the rear 270 degrees practically blind aside from directly backwards. I've had some near misses that I only caught because of the blind spot monitors.

Thanks for the B reminder. Shows clearly why it can't detect my key when I put it in the dash stowage. PITA as I have to drop it in a cup holder. Mind you, my wife as a passenger is even better with the house keys. They may be in the left door pocket, her handbag, on the floor by her right foot, in a cup holder, or the front cubby. NTST 😮‍💨

Thanks for the detailed review, waiting till June for mine (exact same) so appreciate any good info👍

Thanks, looks like it has the Tech Pack, but not the Adventure Pack. To be honest, if I view a car and the have to haggle over mats, I'll just walk away anyway. 🍻

That's exactly the same as me, I didn't get on with driving manual due to a learning disability, so I swapped to automatic and never looked back. I tend to benefit with a higher value estimate when the dealer buys it back as I swap for another car, so even though the price seems to be higher at purchase time, it does pay you back eventually.

I had to buy a car for my daughters lessons/ driving as well. We started with a Fiat 500, nope, she couldn't get on with that. So, then I looked at the Aygo, same choices as yourself but went for the mk 2 as it seemed far more modern and the interiors, infotainment etc felt much better than the mk 1. Then, after quite a few lessons and practise, she wasn't getting on very well, we found out that she was a bit dispraxic. Immediately changed her to an automatic and she got on really well. So, 2nd car (Aygo) was sold, making a little bit of cash in the process. What did we get, another Aygo, another mk 2 auto this time obviously. This did cost a fair bit more than the manual, the price difference is eye opening indeed. She passed her test with just 2 minors and hasn't looked back since. She adores her Aygo, constantly telling me how she loves it and driving it. So, if she's happy, I'm happy. And tbh, it's a really great little car to drive and for me, to work on as well.

You should try riding a 1950s motorbike at night with 6V electrics. 12V sealed beam headlamps were a revelation and then came along halogens.....................................................

The products are still good but the service from dealers has deteriorated over the last 10 years. To the point where I avoid them. Even the once untouchable Lexus is no longer at the top. That saddens me. I've been pleasantly surprised by the local BMW dealer who has been excellent. Yes, I had lower expectations but they were thoroughly surpassed. EDIT: Just want add that this is only based on my personal experience with our local dealerships. I am sure there are plenty of Toyota/Lexus franchises, and individuals, that do a cracking job. We salute you. Parts shortages are of course not an isolated Toyota issue.