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  1. In my previous jobs I worked for a number of component suppliers to a number of car makers - including Toyota at Burnaston. When I decided to go self-employed the car I chose to buy was as a (used) Toyota. Why? - because Toyota was my most demanding customer. Components were tested to death - and no changes, no matter how small, were allowed without very thorough testing and approval. However, problems do sometimes occur, despite the best efforts of both Toyota and their suppliers. It’s not always due to cost cutting. Rest assured that the supplier of these bushes will have been put through the wringer to resolve the issue - most probably at a large cost to the supplier - both financially and in terms of reputation. But as we all know, s…. happens. And it’s how you resolve the issue that is important.
    9 points
  2. Yes! I agree with all those points! And you forgot the massive A, B and C pillars and low mirror - The rear 270 degrees visibility is the worst of any car I've ever been in (Aside from a transit van ) and the A-pillars hide on-coming cars at the exact angle they come at you on roundabouts! The door tinniness is very much a throwback to the Mk1 Yaris, which had the most hilariously tinny back doors And I can confirm the ride comfort on the pothole ridden hellscape I regularly drive on was improved massively going from 17" rims to 15" rims, as well as a small bump in mpg (I opted for steel ones so I don't care if I kerb them and also the insurance companies couldn't jack up the premium! ) However the Mk4 is such a perfect car for me I don't care! It's just so nice to drive and is even punchier than even my old Mk1 D4D, and despite driving like I stole it most of the time I'm still getting a tank average of 72-75. When I wasn't and was just driving 'normally' I was getting into the low 80's last summer! I can't think of any petrol-powered car that could do that. I just filled it up in preparation for the Enfield Car Pageant tomorrow - Done about 350 miles, only got in 22 litres! And the handling is sooo much better than any other Yaris before it; I'd say it even rivals the Fiesta, which traditionally is one of the best handling cars at this level. My one even has a HUD! I can't even think of any car in this segment that can have a proper collimated windscreen-displayed HUD! And the adaptive cruise control and auto-steer has made the long boring slog up the M1 far less unpleasant. It definitely has a lot of flaws, but what it does well it does really really well.
    5 points
  3. The Australians (I think) have a saying: If you want to go into the outback, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back, take a Toyota.
    5 points
  4. TBH none of the hybrids have had any major recurring/common issues that I've seen in my time here (Except maybe the 12v battery thing, but IMHO that is less a problem with the car than the owner not using the car enough! ); Heck we still have people with the original Mk2 Prius still on their original traction battery - That's nearly 20 years old! And NiMH, not lithium! I doubt any EV battery will last that long and still be usable. One thing to remember with the hybrids is having two motors mean they can both support each other - They probably get half the wear that they would have if they were on their own, and that contributes to their longevity. The hybrids consistently score highly in reliability charts, even beating out most EVs!
    5 points
  5. It seems that this discussion is very partisan. One one side you have owners of the 1.8 assuring us that it is perfectly powerful and keeps up with the traffic flow without difficulty (one recent poster confirming that he had ample power on his motorway trip earlier this evening although on his own admission spent the majority of his journey in L1 at 60mph). On the other side of the argument the defenders of the 2.0 is better argument talk about long motorway trips perhaps heavily laden and climbing hills etc. Surely it’s simply horses for courses rather than one type being better than the other. If you want excellent fuel efficiency then maybe you would be better off looking at the 1.8, or for example if you need the maximum amount of boot space. Conversely if you carry more load and are willing to sacrifice some fuel efficiency then maybe the 2.0 is the better bet. It’s great that Toyota gives us the choices.
    5 points
  6. It does show a difference in culture between a japanese horn and, say, a german one. Definitely more of a polite "Pardon me sir" than a "GET THE F*** OUT THE WAY YOU **$&$%& *%$£& OR I'LL &$"$%$£ YOUR WHOLE FAMILY!" I sometimes feel I need a variety of horns for different situations, e.g. "Hello is anyone on the other side of this single-lane blind corner??" and "Excuse me fellow driver but the lights have changed!" and "Pardon me fellow driver but if you could pull forwards just a touch I'll be able to get past you into this left turn" and the always useful "I'M RIGHT HERE USE YOUR *$£#@#%£ EYES INSTEAD OF TURNING INTO THE SIDE OF ME WITHOUT LOOKING YOU BLIND **$%&$* IT'S MIRROR SIGNAL MANOEUVRE YOU IGNORANT #@+=$£&!!"
    5 points
  7. At the end of the day, if one is going to post opinions on an open forum, you will get discussion from other members who may have different experiences and opinions. This is what forums are about. If one doesn't want discussion, then it is best not to post.
    4 points
  8. So, I’ve had the Yaris for nearly a month, now the novelty has worn off I can see a few annoyances showing through. I’m not going to bang on about it, because it is what it is, but so far; 1) The doors, my goodness what a tinny sounding car, I’ve owned over 40 cars in 30 years of car ownership, and this is by far the worst for sounding, well, Cheap!! 2) Steering wheel height, the steering wheel sits too low for me, even with the seat as far down as possible, I’m just under 6ft but feel like a giant behind the wheel, it’s very “Peugeot 208” and it’s quite uncomfortable after a while. 3) Doors (again), wife, kids, me, all getting tired of shutting a door, to find it hasn’t shut and needs a hard slam to get it shut (which makes it sound even more tinny-see 1 above!) 4) The back window and the rear view mirror, I can barely see out of the back window, it’s so darkly tinted, with sunglasses on I cannot see anything, and is quite dangerous to be honest, really relying on door mirrors a lot, and glad of the blind spot monitoring. 5) The ride. Well what can I say? If I was 20 years younger I’d be chuffed, but oh my Lord it really is a bone shaker and teeth chatterer! The larger alloy wheel really make a difference in making it very hard on the spine, I know I can swap the wheels out, but I refuse to spend anymore money, so just going to have to live with it. So, what it has done is made me realise just how far other manufacturers have come! I have a 2021 Vauxhall Corsa e and it really does put the Yaris too shame in many areas, I suspect the Vauxhall won’t be anywhere near as reliable and even perhaps hard wearing in the long term but it is a surprise to be honest. Thankfully the Yaris is the wife’s car, so I’ll only drive it occasionally. The Yaris is still a good car, and plenty of positive things about it, but perhaps I was expecting too much from it? 🤔
    4 points
  9. I always think that opening a conversation with the word so is a continuation of a previous conversation - maybe I missed that. I’m a mechanic by trade and I’ve worked on both brands. If you’re happy running a Corsa, you run it. I’ll stick with Toyota. The weight of the doors doesn’t effect their functionality and they need slightly more pressure to shut them because they form a good seal. I occasionally give mine a second shut but I would say slamming them is completely over the top. I’m just under six feet tall and I have the steering wheel it the bottom. Pushing it to the top feels very unnatural to me so that’s a personal thing. Mines got tinted windows and they are fine even with sunglasses. You can get various levels of tint so no need to drive dangerously. I also find the ride perfect and I’m 64 next. I’ve come out of a 2020 Lexus NX and I’m very impressed with this Yaris. It’s not quite big enough so I’ve ordered a Yaris Cross. I won’t even consider owning a Vauxhall but that’s me long experience of working on cars, if somebody is happy with theirs that’s fine and I can’t be bothered joining a Vauxhall forum to tell them all the many reasons why I wouldn’t want one. My Yaris is a basic one and I do have a couple of gripes. I wish the lane departure system didn’t default to on and the interior light is rather pathetic. I’ll sort the latter out if it’s as bad in the Cross when it comes.
    4 points
  10. Well after a lot of measuring and reading endless reviews I have managed to do what I suspected was impossible, I now have two bikes I can get into the back if an Aygo at the same time. Of course the bikes are the folding type and the rear seats have to go down but I can get two 20" wheel bikes, plus helmets, a boot tidy box (now between the front and back seats), pannier bags for each bike and still enough room to get a carrier bag of shopping in. I have to admit that, even with careful measuring it was a lot tighter than I thought so much so I wondered if it could be done at all at one point. Having got them in and out a few times now I seem to have found the technique. Being careful with placement I have managed to add a basic bike computer (GPS so there are no cables, sensors or magnets involved) and LED lights to each bike even though there is also a twist lever for the seven speed gears and a bell already attached the the handlebars.
    4 points
  11. This is what I've gotta make do with, till my GR Sport turns up !!!
    4 points
  12. Bob, think I posted in a thread in the forum but could not seem to find. Here are a few of my batmobile as a friend of mine says:
    4 points
  13. Toyota Hybrids classed as completely different from all other makes and models , a unique technology that is the best in the business and closest thing to full electric cars not only as driving experience, reliability but also with minimal maintenance required. I am a motorway driver and I use Auris hybrid for my business travel, 200+ miles a day, every day since 2018. Drowning noises are only the negative talk by the press and those who live in last century motoring world 📸🏛🛞
    4 points
  14. Hi and welcome. You have made the right decision no doubt about it. The car look excellent., how can I say otherwise, I have exactly the same one, same spec, same colour. 👌 If it’s your first hybrid there will be a lot to learn and you may have a lots of questions but everything with the time. Catalytic converter protection and removing hybrid signs it’s a good idea for peace of mind. There are few important steps in terms of service and maintenance that even at ultra low miles like your example still needs to be completed to warrant long and trouble free ownership. First step is to go through the service history and check when was the car serviced last time and what was done, where was done too. If within Toyota dealers you can check that online too. If the car is due to service now very important to replace coolant in both engine and inverter (electronics ) as this procedure is done by mileage or time 10 years first change then every 5 or 50k miles. Another area to be checked are the brakes. Toyota hybrids especially those who does not drive often or much suffer from rusty brake discs and faulty callipers. Brake fluid change and brake service is important. Hybrid battery has a small grill opening next to the rear right seat. Behind that is located battery cooling fan , this needs to be checked and cleaned and you have to keep this grill always unobscured. These particular model has issues with rear lights clusters seals that goes bad after time and let rain water goes into the boot. This needs to be checked and seal replaced if there are any moisture or water in the spare wheel area. To check that you need to lift or take out boot floor and inspect. Your hybrid battery is located in the boot along with small 12v battery. Moisture and heat are the biggest enemy to the hybrid battery. Air conditioning- if hasn’t been serviced in the last few years best to get it done. Re gas every 3-4 years and cabin filter change every year are also recommended. Well, that’s pretty much most important things to do. Enjoy your new car. 🚙👍
    4 points
  15. As a 2016 Auris Excel hybrid hatchback driver for the last 13 months, I can tell you with absolute clarity that if you buy a hybrid for commuting in slow speed traffic, it’s absolutely the right tool for the job. It’s a beautiful, relaxing, smooth commute. Thoroughly recommended. Here’s mine:
    4 points
  16. If you get the 2.0 you almost *need* to get the TS; You can barely slide two slices of toast into the boot of the HB 2.0 I do wish Toyoa had mounted the rear seats further back in the HB Corolla and esp. the Mk4 Yaris tho' - The Yaris has such a massive boot compared to previous models I wonder if they did it for the Boot Capacity in Litres figure, whereas I'd rather have a smaller boot and more rear passenger space (Reasoning that if I need more boot space I can fold the seats down, whereas if I need more rear passenger space I can't really cut my passenger's legs off and put them in the boot...) Or better yet if they put the sliding rear seats back in all models! That was one of the best things about the Mk1 and Mk2 Yaris and I do miss it!!
    4 points
  17. Results are in after a month of using E5 vs E10. I used hybrid assistant to analyse similar long journeys which i make regularly so there is both E10 and E5 data. With the E5 super unleaded the mpg is about 12% better than E10. So for me, if E5 is 10% more expensive or less than E10 it is actually cheaper than E10.
    4 points
  18. If an air con Bomb does not fully clear things, then use one of the foam sanitizers that you spray down into the air con matrix and vent pipes, worked well for us.
    4 points
  19. Just be careful when doing that. The nose weight of a bike carrier, plus the weight of an electric bike usually means you can only legally carry one bike as the nose weight is exceeded with two bikes
    4 points
  20. I loved the 1.8 2ZR in my Elise. As you said, add lightness and it makes a massive difference. 😂
    4 points
  21. It's all about the driving style Let's call it Fun 2.0L vs hmm.... how would you call the 1.8L. No word comes in my mind. I assume those with the 2L would never agree that the 1.8 is a fun car, and that is understandable. It is not!!! But the 1.8 does everything a car should do, and does it with a balanced performance and extremely good fuel consumption. Obviously mine is 1.8😂😂😂 and I am after fuel economy Both cars are great, but as the cars are different so we are. Everyone have different needs and different expectations from a car. PS. I would happily have gone for the 2L, but having in mind it would have cost me £7-800 if not even more per year I choose the wiser solution for my needs(and pocket). However if the budget wasn't an issue I would have a Lexus ES now
    4 points
  22. And if the Rescue Services fitted a space-saver in lieu of a punctured tyre???????????????????????? Can't see a space-saver in the boot being an issue for an insurer - if it does then best just to switch off the lights now..................
    3 points
  23. I might be wrong, I have a PHEV but have a similar setting in the MID. I think this just toggles whether the EV indicator is displayed when only using battery power and doesn't actually affect how the car behaves.
    3 points
  24. All my views too. We must have sat side by side at Primary School, Andrew😊
    3 points
  25. I do love Pearlescent white
    3 points
  26. Update having done the job today... My Avensis has had the diesel filter done before... a Blueprint filter came out. Unsure why anyone would have done it sooner than 4 years / 52,000 miles when I got it, but it was replaced - unless Toyota use this brand from factory but I can't imagine they do? I broke two scuttle trim clips taking it off annoyingly... Does anyone here know if the scuttle trim has two clips or bolts from factory on the edges? I have two empty holes on both sides and I suspect someone has maybe lost them unless everyone else is the same. The rubber on this piece of trim on the passenger side is also missing all of its little white clips that keep it secure..I'm going to price this from the dealer in the interest of keeping the car right. The two clips I broke mean it's loose other than the bonnet holding it down. The little black metal cover over the fuel filter, I strongly believe was put on the wrong way around (the bolt holes are diagonal so I think that is possible) as it was incredibly tight and hard to reach in and get the back bolt off compared to on the videos (one side is slanted down to allow access for this, and sits facing the inside of the car). The fuel lines have two little plastic cages around them, mine was missing the back one for some reason... Another part to get from Toyota if they can find me it. Now, the real mess was there is a short little breather hose from the engine to the air filter box pipe. I tried a few ways of getting access to the rear of the metal guard over the diesel filter and part of that was unclipping that little breather hose. Only for it to have snapped on one side and crack - it was incredibly brittle. I tried to duct tape it temporarily but as I bent it into place, the rest of it snapped too... disaster. I took it out only to find that it is indeed a BMW part, a crappy ill designed brittle cheap plastic part that, had it flexed as it was intended to, wouldn't have been an issue. We happened to have a pipe around of the exact same diameter and with a glue gun were able to make a DIY job (for now). I hope this isn't an expensive part from Toyota. I lost a rubber mounting from the plastic engine cover too, which is annoying as hell but totally on me. I'll order this too, to keep the car right... but I am raging about that breather hose breaking. one more important note... Unlike the videos online, the 2017 onwards diesel D4D 1.6 engine in the Avensis has a paper filter as I explained in my post above, you don't just disconnect the whole metal assembly and refit an entirely new one. You need to open it, by twisting the top. I recommend a vice to hold it, and to use a screwdriver against a metal fin and a notch on the 'lid' part. It will twist around, UNTIL, a metal fin which holds an electrical wire is literally bang in the way - physically impossible. BEND this back gently, but then you find... it hits another part. Bent it a little more, to get the lid off. You'll then see the pool of diesel inside. If you're careful, don't lose any. Wear gloves, put a rag on the ground below and slowly gently pull out the old filter. Have a basin to put it in because it will drip diesel all over the table. Take the rubber seal off the 'lid' part, and fit the new one. Push the new filter into the metal canister. WEAR GOGGLES OR GO VERY SLOW! This will squirt diesel right up through the new filter, quite possible into your eyes or mouth. I was lucky it didn't, but push very slowly to avoid this. This isn't something shown or needed on the other design used on earlier D4D BMW engines or on any of the videos I could find. Please be prepared.
    3 points
  27. You can check Toyota dealers. They offer original batteries at competitive price perhaps including fitting. Oem is best not always but in most cases. 🔋👍
    3 points
  28. That new Yaris Hybrid is a proper pocket rocket, great car with even better MPG, my only complaint is the tiny switch gear and dials on the steering wheel/dash
    3 points
  29. I bought one. It’s a nice charger.
    3 points
  30. Max,I`ve had Yaris MK1 for 20 years--no problems Had MK3 for 3 years-no problems Have a Lexus GS Hybrid for 10 years --no problems Toyota are significantly more reliable than any other marque. Buy from an official Toyota Dealer if you can and with a full Toyota Service History. Good luck.
    3 points
  31. I have done both 1.4 turbo and 1.5 hybrid, the hybrid does double or better MPG, hybrid is a totally different driving style, when you spend most of the time in traffic or 30/40/50 mph roads hybrid makes sense it can get a bit wearing at motorway speeds for long periods of time tho
    3 points
  32. Hybrid, first, second and third. The drone is not there if driven correctly. Always ignore a criticism from a motoring journalist.Never buy a car with a turbo. Toyota Hybrids give one peace of mind, make one a more relaxed, respectful and confident driver and instills a sense of caring for the Planet.
    3 points
  33. Happily back home in Spain now after the tour of Britain, even saw another Yaris Cross nearby on the road back last night. Just done the calculation for fuel consumption, not including the last 200km or so as tank not empty yet and it has returned 67mpg over 2800km. First tank full was a lowly 44mpg, but that was a near 600km drive to Santander on motorways at 120kph for most of the time, best was 78mpg for a period of cross country driving from Bristol to Norfolk and then up to Leeds dropping back to 63mpg for the run back to Plymouth via Bristol. Was a little concerned after the first fill up but once we got more mixed conditions and less motorway speeds it settled down nicely. Even got the wife to drive using cruise control on the way back although it did keep telling her to hold the steering wheel properly. Overall average now since we got it in December according to the car is around 61mpg.
    3 points
  34. Did a run last week 33 miles each way about 7 miles of motorway through Liverpool to the A59 on that for around another16 miles. Started off with the current MPG showing around 55 ended up on return showing 62 mpg, drove in ECO mode about 65mph on the motorway and keeping up with traffic the rest of the journey. Now I know you can’t just rely on the cars MPG read out but even allowing for some error I’m really impressed. Car is a MY2022 IAWD RAV4 Excel and done around 1000 miles.
    3 points
  35. No need to be a blast, it doesn’t matter what speed you are doing, only matters how long the car is ON. If your journeys are less than 20min each time it’s likely to reduce battery capacity. The trick is to keep the car in ready mode as long as possible. For example if you drive someone to the shop, let them off and if you are staying in the car waiting, do not turn off, keep in ready mode while waiting. Turning off and on the car often within short period of time really kills the battery because there is an electric brake pump booster which pressurises and de pressurises the brake system each tmi,e the car been turned on or off and that is the largest 12v energy consumer.
    3 points
  36. In the aesthetics front, I think Toyota hit a home run with the new Corolla in the hatchback and estate forms, not so much with the sedan, so in terms of looks you should be covered with both cars. I tested both and couldn't feel any handling difference, but you can certainly feel the size difference while traveling through city traffic, at least just in perception. If space is a concern, the TS is a must... Although I have to say that is not that much compared to other estates, like the VW Golf or the Skoda Octavia, but we just love the looks, equipment, power unit and reliability of the Corolla. Moreover, the price is just not comparable with the other two! The equipment of the Toyota in every spec is way, way better than the competition. Unfortunately the space is certainly not that much, though. I tried to fit a bike without dismantling the handlebar and it wasn't possible; it is related with the less than boxy shape of the rear end of the car -we love it and that's one of the reasons we bought it-, which reduces the interior volume quite a lot. The Corolla is a safe choice!
    3 points
  37. My wife bought me one for Christmas, as I was frustrated by the waiting for the FWD HEV I'd ordered in November. Still waiting... I believe my RAV is now in Derbyshire & will be at the dealer when I'm out of the country in June.😒
    3 points
  38. After swapping the hatchback for the estate I'd go for the estate. It could just be me but I feel like it's a more comfortable drive and does slightly better mpg. There's also the benefit of having loads more space in the back at boot, great for kids and/or dog and the occasional trip to the tip
    3 points
  39. On older models is much better positioned next to the even better joystick gear shifter. I use ev mode button every day as I drive constantly downhill and have my hybrid battery topped up so often 🔋👍
    3 points
  40. There are two main types of tyre noises from car tyres: 1. The faulty wheel bearing noise (whining) - this comes from under inflated tyres or some all season and winter tyres. Usually happens on very smooth asphalt and or at lower speeds . 2. The rumble noise - this is happening when tyres are over inflated or too hard as been aged, or has protector deformed, the noise can be more prominent at rough asphalt and at all speeds. Best to stick close to the recommended values. Correct tyres pressures are responsible not only for safety, better efficiency and handling but also for suspension, bearings and shocks longevity and perhaps your plastics inside the interior. Make the tyres rock hard and you will kill all of those above 😬
    3 points
  41. Many thanks for all your help regarding this. I went to my local dealer who was very helpful. as it turns out when I was adjusting some settings I must have changed something, there is a setting on the tablet Menu- vehicle and scroll down it switches the smart entry and start feature off and on, this is to prevent someone cloning your key. it effectively disables the key remotely so the car will only open with one of the buttons pressed and only start when the fob is in very close proximity to the start button. A bit embarrassing really but new car it would be rude not to have a fiddle. anyway it’s all sorted and I can hopefully get on with enjoying it. Thanks again
    3 points
  42. Fully agree with Graeme. TBH, I wasn’t in the fortunate position of being able to afford a new car - and the engine choice was a low priority - so I went for a trim level, colour and price that suited me. In my case I ended up with the 1.8 - which I have found to be more than adequate for the motoring I do these days. Conversely, if I put myself back 15 years ago when I was doing a lot of long distance motorway driving (about 30k pa) then I’m sure the 2.0 would have probably been a better choice. As always, it a case of horses for courses.
    3 points
  43. I'll check mine when I pick it up tomorrow
    3 points
  44. I'm a new owner so I didnt know the key nearby enables me to unlock it and I got scared. Yeah when I went to check now and left me keys in my house it didnt unlock now. Thanks for replies, now I know
    3 points
  45. OK here goes, the only prep for taking the bikes is the boot tidy, holding the usual mobile tyre pump, bottle of oil, anti freeze, torch, hand cleaner and roll of kitchen towel, is moved behind the front passenger seat and the seats are folded down. Once the bikes are loaded there is enough space to store the pannier rack bags and room for a carrier bag of shopping to the left of the bikes. There is still more room behind the front seats to put more and the helmets we put below the rear seat back behind the drivers seat.
    3 points
  46. Went for these were a few negative reviews but then there always is and you don't know how the bikes were treated. Overall the comments and reviews were positive. For my wife 20 Inch Folding Bicycle Just £305.99 ! | Free UK Next Day Delivery | Ecosmo (panlova.com) For me Folding Bicycle (20" Wheel) Just £305.99 ! | Free Next Day Delivery | Ecosmo (panlova.com) We have carry bags for them both, not that I would carry them very far, but it goes some way to protecting the both the bikes and the car. When loaded they just look like two black blobs, so give me a day or so and I will upload photos of them loaded, in and out of the bags.
    3 points
  47. I've got a westfalia towbar on my 2014 mk2 aygo with 13 pin electrics fitted. Works well with my Thule easyfold xt towbar rack and I can fold that up and put it in the boot when out on the bikes. I can get 2 29er/700c bikes (mid drive conversions) on it. It does make the back end sag with the weight so I use rubber spring spacers in the suspension springs to increase the ride height at the back. The car will be gone by the end of the year with new Yaris mk4 so will look for a similar solution for once I get the car.
    3 points
  48. I think that's your best option tbh...you are right in that the leccy folders are quite heavy and although I'm "getting on" I do have a younger fit wife to help...lol
    3 points
  49. Welcome and great choice for a small automatic car 🚗 Toyota hybrids are slightly different from all other automatics and more close to full electric cars with the difference that the later doesn’t have an engine to roar when pushed. You said the regenerative braking is strong, did you drive the car by any chance in B position on gear leaver or in D? In normal day to day driving only use D for forward drive and B only when going long downhill as extra stopping power provided by the hybrid system and to safe pressing the brakes so often. Once you have passed the downhill shift back to D and enjoy relaxed driving experience. Driving modes eco, normal or power as personal preference, I always drive Normal mode and this gives me best felling of the accelerator and best performance efficiency ratio. Regards 👍
    3 points
  50. Something that is missing from this thread is a bit of balance. How about his? There is a place for both the 1.8, AND the 2.0. I own the latter, but have experienced both. The 1.8 is ‘adequate’ and especially suitable for the more sedate driver, who isn’t bothered about performance, and would rather save a few £, and take a more relaxed pace. That’s fine, and probably a majority of Toyota hybrid owners. The 2.0 is has much more torque, and surprising performance - contrary to some beliefs, that is relevant, especially if you drive on the motorway with a few passengers or cargo. The 2.0 is more effortless - you don’t have to dig as deep into the pedal travel, and can accelerate with traffic without even breaching the eco zone, and without the slightest movement on the Rev counter. It circumvents much of the CVT traits that frustrate people. It has a bigger battery, and motor than the 1.8. The bigger battery (alongside dynamic force tech) I’m sure, is why it’s so good on fuel. That’s a big list of benefits over the 1.8. the key here is BOTH engines are relevant, and not one size fits all.
    3 points
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