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Finally picked up today after exactly 6 months waiting to the day. Dead chuffed 🙂

Your buyers remorse can't be as bad as Fourbanks' "bought from the wrong marque, everything about the car is wrong, I didn't see this coming, but I'll make a thread about every little snag" remorse 😁

Had a meeting with DP today and had a lengthy discussion about the issues I’ve experienced. He thought the car as it is today is in spec. Not going to disagree with him entirely as it has been adjusted, but just not to the standard I expect. We discussed rejection of car. He wanted car back there and then; expected me to pay the new higher price for a new one, then wait 6/8 months, then expect the new car to be of similar standard. At this point I made it clear what I expected! 🤷🏼‍♂️😡 We agreed rejection was not the way forward, so they offered me a level of a “Goodwill gesture”. First service free - which is already paid for via sales. Errr, no.🤷🏼‍♂️ So I’ve managed to get a front dashcam and rear chrome scuff plate supplied and fitted for free. Case closed. Thanks for all your input and support over the last few months/weeks. 👍

Thanks for all the advice folks. It is now running at 4.7l/100km (60mpg) happy with this

I personally would take more care or suffer the consequences. Stopped sweating the small stuff long time ago. But that's just me - just as well we are all different. I hope you receive the justice you think you deserve Adrian.

Good Choice ! I got the same car. Just with the option black wheels. I'm gutted I missed out on the red stitched seats though. They stopped doing them when I got mine.

If you are minded, I think it's worth sending the pictures and reprocesses to Toyota customer services, they may wish to consider the products their franchises sell under their name.

I left the boots as the chap said they are just starting to show wear. And all my MOT's are done at the same place, a small independent garage and very good. Only ever had one car fail there and I was expecting that! It was a hunk of junk lol. Alex

Thought I'd best add mine now I've got it.

I think I had delivery of one of the first 2.0 GR TS in the UK back in January 2020. Great and comfortable car, mpg avg at 56 over the last 2 and a half years. 28k miles so far. Love the HUD wish it had the options of Bi-LED headlights, steering wheel warmer, and pan sunroof. If the MY23 fixes that next year I may be inclined to trade up

Apologies - I’ve ordered the Cross Excel

Thanks Bill, well that's encouraging. Hope you like it!

Toyota seems to swim against the tide of other manufactures in naming car functionality.

My 2018 C-HR is what I’d expect. Different class of car I know, but no complaints with it.

The sad thing is that nothing is made as well as it used to be. I blame the bean counters who are forever trying to cut costs

It looks very smart with the black wheels

It is, although taken with an older mobile phone camera and on a cloudy day - looks much better in the flesh!

Those wheels suit the colour very well!

So I've washed and tested a small part of it with t-cut. The scratches would tcut and polish out. The plastic trim just needs plastic reviver. I can do those. But I am pushing for them to do the dent, as it is a discrete, seperate area. If they don't, I will go to the dealers, not that I expect much but just to point out I'm not happy and Toyota are not the only people doing good hybrids now.

I've used Chips Away a few times in the past, and was really pleased with the results.

I had a similar issue with smart guard I had a small dent in my car door which you wouldn't show up on a photo so they rejected the claim. In the end I got a local company to remove the dent for £60. I would never use smart guard again it was just a waste of money

It’s not from the clutch but from the engine load. Clutch doesn’t have friction materials to wear, it could become faulty but in rare occasions. The problem is when ac starts the engine is loaded more than usual and ecu reacts to maintain rpm to prevent stalling, there is some latency in the whole process and this is felt by the driver. Larger engines has enough torque at idle or while pulling the car and can’t feel the extra load from the ac compressor. The experiment done by a member with lower gas inside the system and smoother operation simply proof my explanation. Engines are loaded a lot by the alternator, power steering pump and ac. Older cars that have hydraulic power steering, ac and alternator were even worse. It might look strange how can an engine be loaded by something small but remember engine has gearbox that multiply the torque to propel the car while the auxiliary system are directly driven. 👍

I am collecting mine on Saturday ordered 6th February, just under 5 months so about average!!!

Your location is other/non-UK, so it would be better if somebody who knows the in-car audio market, local to you. It will be cheaper. Best to find a local in car audio specialist. Try Google search for - Toyota Avensis 2017 audio interface cables, Toyota Avensis 2017 facia plates and fittings. You are looking for ISO to Toyota cable harness, steering control interface. Search for those too. I have a basic audio system with a better Bluetooth interface adapter for my 2009 Avensis. I put up with the phone in the cradle, because it is cheaper than splashing out on new system. Plus there are some Toyota specific features that the original unit can control, that a non -Toyota unit cannot access, like adjust the auto light sensitivity. The main thing is you are thinking safely.

Got Toyota to confirm exact details: Hi Paul, We apologise for our previous replies and for any confusion caused. The Advanced Parking Assist (APA) is available on all bZ4X grades. However, Remote Controlled APA is not available on any grade. We hope this helps to clarify, please let us know if you have any further questions. Thanks.

Derek, agree about the ring size as I had to connect mine to a less convenient bolt on the Corolla. Would a fork connector be easier? Just slacken the positive, slip in, tighten up? I am considering getting my dealer to fit the cable.

Thank you for the comprehensive response. I will inspect the rear of the belt as you suggest and take it from there. Whilst Toyota parts have an almost legendary reputation for longevity and reliability, this, at the end of the day is just a rubber/fabric based belt, so ultimately it will fail I guess at some stage. Thanks again.

With the PHEV the 12v battery continuously runs the alarm system 24/7 which is the big drain but the moment it’s in READY mode that 375v traction battery to 12v inverter is running. My understanding is that even in winter conditions a 20/30 mins period in READY mode should keep the 12v battery topped up.

I was responding to this. The 12v battery charges of the traction battery. We know from users that short journies deplete the 12v battery due to lot of draw on initial start up. I'm not massivel familiar with the way the Phev works, but if the 12 v is charged up from the traction battery then i think those 9 5 minute runs would more than undue 45 minutes of ready mode. On the Yaris forum a user managed to deplete her battery doing 10 minute daily runs for example

You don't have to rag the nuts off it, but sustaining around 2000-2500 rpm should be enough, although might be different with your engine depending on its rev range. It's just about getting the engine hot enough; If you were towing a caravan or carting a load of rubble to the dump or something that'd be enough to get the engine good and hot long enough for the soot to get burned off.

Hi you dont need to lift the rear seat to connect ilet terminals to positive post just undo battery fastining bracket remove this & slide battery forward about a inch to access positive terminal post. I isolated my tools with insulation tape first & removed - ve tirminal ground first . If you WANT TO it now a good time to cut your ctek lead & insert a 5 amp fuse for safty plus it makes adding to it later a lot easier ie a battery monitor. Negative terminal lots of places without connecting to the post screw I used the screws goint to the chassy ground. Hope it helps.

i'll get to live with it as life is to short. Trying to get anyone at Toyota to understand anything from the top is never going to happen, trying to get anyone at Toyota in the customer service to even understand anything is painful just to listen to. As they always say, "i know nothing" and to think these people get paid for what i'm just glad my daughter whose been working for the UK government saw sense and has now quit the country for Australia. That's education for you, of which i never had, hence i'm still here

It is the Market operating Tony.Demand is greater than supply,so prices rise.

In uk car prices are crazy. Recent visit to a local Toyota dealer just proof that. There were used 3 years old Corolla outside for 3-4 grand more expensive than brand new same spec cars, unbelievable but true. Even like my car bough in 2015 now worth more money, this is shows how bad economically is England at the moment.

If it’s me I will swap it straightaway. Get the TS but make sure you are buying minimum Design mode spec or higher to get all the goodies. Design, Trek , GR or Excel. 👌🚗

If you really,really want the Touring Sport and you can afford it then just buy it Sam. Your ticket marked "LIFE" does not have a return option !

It may not necessarily be the Avensis that is picky about it, but me. I may just not be built to drive a car the responds so instant and harsh to every curve in the road. The car is still respsonding to the same curves, but it's being softened out as the absorbers feels "slower" (in lack of a better word in my vocabulary). I'm very thankful to the Toyota mechanic who pointed out the front shocks looked fairly new, or else I'd still not know where to look as noone found any faults with the car itself.

Advanced Parking Assist is still listed within the specification provided by the website. I would put virtual money on Frosty being correct and the journalists writing for the mag not knowing the difference between Advanced Parking Assist and Advanced Remote Park Assist ... 😉

I think it is probably due to the Citroen C1 and Peugeot 107 being the same car with more mods available, not that I am interested with this type of mod - waste of money. I say when buying a car, get the best available engine and spec if possible. The upgrade/addition I did with my Avensis TR was a better Bluetooth with USB that is plug and play, plus controlled by the stereo and steering controls, and full size spare wheel. Very few in UK would modify recent Toyotas.

I changed my belt 2 years ago when I replaced the water pump. The old belt was original and in fairly good condition. This is because the belt has a simple run, so will last longer. Get an inspection mirror (cheap ones available in pound stores) and good torch to check the condition of the belt, both sides for cracks and delamination. I bought the spare belt and after the replacement kept the old for emergency purpose. If the belt did snap and you have a spare, so long as you have a socket kit, you can replace the belt roadside and be on your way. Couple of other checks you can do apart from the tension, is the alternator freewheel pulley and water pump for play, leaks or about to seize. The freewheel pulley can be faulty by not freewheeling on over run (locked), or not locking causing the alternator to not charge the battery. Both are rare. When I replaced the water pump, it was noisy and I suspect had a leak. After I replaced the water pump, the old pump actually seized solid that I couldn't turn it by hand! Hopefully all this extra info will help you.

I usually go for red, orange, gold type colours for cars. I'm not a fan of silver, grey, black etc But it would be a boring world if we all liked the same things

Very nice enjoy 🙂

Enjoy.

hi thanks the seal didn't fall out i had to remove the shaft and when i reinstalled it there was little leak so i needed to remove the seal to fit a new one but was unsure if it could be levered out ,,but i have done that now just need to get a new seal ,,thanks

Fiddling around the edges, nothing major just smoke and mirrors and work for the PR boys and girls. I think these focus groups are sometimes like the crowd watching the King in the magic suit of clothes.

An interesting range of responses with a trend towards a dislike for intrusive driver assistance in particular. Its ironic that as well as concentrating on the driving we now have to learn which features to turn off or override and which warning beeps it is safe to ignore. We also have to try to remember where various buttons are on the steering wheel, central display, and centre console without taking our eyes off the road; plus working out which, if any, voice commands are meaningful and useful. Then of course there is the conundrum of trying to decide whether there is an actual fault if something unexpected happens while in motion.

Problems at Derby? Could be lack of drivers and or transporter availability. Trying to distribute orders in the most economic manner given the current cost of fuel, wouldnt want to send a partly loaded transporter the length of the country if it can be avoided. Could be any number of reasons or a combination of them all. MyT app and latest email shows mine as "in transit", currently in Zeebrugge, but I believe that's only an approximation, could be there or on a ship somewhere in the North Sea! According to my dealer as of this Monday gone the latest report they had for when they should get mine is the end of the month. Hope that doesn't slip as the MOT and service on my current Aygo is due by the 13th July. Don't want to pay out on that if at all possible! Actually I already have as I have a service plan, but if its not done it should transfer to a new one for the Cross.

Good luck with that. Mine has been at the Derby Distribution center for nearly a month and my local Toyota salesman has no authority in the matter whatsoever, so keep hoping. !!! Toyota GB are getting a letter from me on this. Just not acceptable.