The Countrys Going To Hell

[Fidgits]

Well, this morning I heard on the radio that the goverment are trying to force on-line gambling sites to have lots of warnings about gambling being adictive and warn about betting too much money...

This is, the same goverment that last year gave the go-ahead for US style super-casinos to pop up everywhere in the UK?

:ffs: :censor:

and then i read this:

Fined for putting rubbish in bin

A man has been fined £50 for putting rubbish in a bin.

Andy Tierney of Hinckley, Leicestershire was issued the fixed penalty notice for dumping two junk mail letters.

Hinckley and Bosworth Council accused him of committing "an offence under Section 87 of the Environmental Protection Act 1990. Domestic refuse from your property was dumped into a street litter bin the fixed penalty is £50."

The council classes letters as "domestic litter", which should not be dropped in public street bins.

According to The Sun Andy said: "How on earth can they fine me for being tidy? It's absolute madness.

"I could have easily chucked those letters on the ground, but I put them in the bin. What has happened is a joke. The council is barmy. I never thought you could be fined for putting rubbish in a bin - that's what they're there for."

Andy was walking from his house to his car when his postman handed him the junk mail. He opened both letters as he strolled - then dumped them in the bin on a lamppost.

Council officials traced him from the addresses on the envelopes and issued the penalty. The letter threatens Andy with further action and a conviction if he does not pay within 14 days.

Andy insisted: "There's absolutely no way I'm paying up. You get fined for chucking rubbish on the ground. You get fined for chucking rubbish in the bin. So what exactly are you supposed to do?"

A spokesman from the council said: "A fixed penalty notice is served to people who we believe have committed an offence. Our litter bins are there to keep streets tidy, as they enable the public to deposit small amounts of litter. They are not provided for household waste."

:ffs: :ffs: :ffs: :censor:

So basically, in this country the goverment is constantly contridicting itself, and finding everyway to fine the general public..

i'm just waiting for someone to be fined for driving too slow, just to re-inforce the stupidity that is this labour goverment some idiots with no brain cells actually voted in AGAIN!

[Caz SR]

Ah yes but technically it wasn't household waste... it never made it 'inside' his house, but was handed to him en route, in public so the council don't have a leg to stand on ;)

*But* shows you should destroy all traces of your address on letters etc. I religiously shred all my stuff before chucking it away (just call me paranoid!) ;)

As for the government.... BAH! Don't get me started on those f-wits.

[Bibbs]

The problem is that no group of people stand up against them. You have the occasional individual, and that's it.

I'll not be arround much longer is Labour stays in ..

[jay dh]

i am lost for words

i thought banning the nursey rhyme 'bar bar black sheep' due to being racist was bad enough.

this is a joke.

[scottbino]

i'm just waiting for someone to be fined for driving too slow, just to re-inforce the stupidity that is this labour goverment some idiots with no brain cells actually voted in AGAIN!

Know what you mean mate, I'm sure you can get in a bit of bother for driving too slow already...

[JAHill]

The problem is that no group of people stand up against them. You have the occasional individual, and that's it.

I'll not be arround much longer is Labour stays in ..

Me neither... Canada beckons... But it's next door to the neighbours from hell.

[Bibbs]

Canada .. living next to Americans and with the French .. not sure I could cope :)

[Fidgits]

i dunno, the way this country is heading, i might even consider moving to the gun-toting, country-invading, land of the expanding waist...

at least those that choose to be lazy arnt given an excessively comfortable life by those that work hard and get nothing in return!

[JAHill]

Canada .. living next to Americans and with the French .. not sure I could cope :)

Damn... I forgot about the French. S**t! :ffs: At least the missus speaks the lingo. She gets tons of points on their entry system.

[Flat Pack]

Canada .. living next to Americans and with the French .. not sure I could cope :)

Damn... I forgot about the French. S**t! :ffs: At least the missus speaks the lingo. She gets tons of points on their entry system.

Try Vancouver then, most of the Frenchies are behind some mountains on the other side of the country... Further away than they are here :) Oh its a top place too, which helps.

[Kev Mc]

The amount of examples of stupidity from the government is horrendous, every1 makes the odd stupid decision but it seems that every day we hear about some absolutely pathetic decision that no1 with anything remotely like a brain understands. They need to get a grip.

[Johndcfc]

Trouble is unlike the private sector - if someone screws up nothing bad happens, money just keeps pouring in to pay the monkeys...

[Fidgits]

Trouble is unlike the private sector - if someone screws up nothing bad happens, money just keeps pouring in to pay the monkeys...

well, its worse than that...

did you know there are 3 or 4 times the number of public sector workers than when Labour came into power..

They rave about low unemployment - thats because they created 100,000's of job's out of know-where, all paid by the tax payer through more stealth taxes..

ontop of that, they take people off standard unemployment benifit, put them on disability, or special types of basically paying them to stay at home sat on their fat **** without showing up on the statistics..

and the moment a geninue person who's worked hard and is going through a bad patch needs some help - he's turned away, another way to bump up the statistics!

and according to Tony, Crimes down, maybe because were catching so many people speeding? because if you read any local police reports, while petty crime has dropped, serious and violent crimes have gone through the roof.

Children as young as 11 are dying from Heroin abuse - i remember Jamie Bulger - there was outrage at children killing another child... i've heard at least two similar cases THIS YEAR on the news, sure it's still shocking, but its started being so common, were becoming de-sensitised...

sure, blame TV, Rappers and bad role models... but its what happens when you have a limp wristed leader, who says teachers should be fired for stopping children fighting, who arent allowed to defend themselves against a knife whelding kid.

And sure, we'll send a parent to prison if the kid skips school - but not if they steal cars, mug the elderly, no, we'll just give them more benifits because their kid has 'special needs'

This countries gone soft, and on one hand, the jobsworths are abusing the honest decent folk, while the elements that need controlling are allowed to run free turning town centres into war zones...

[JAHill]

sure, blame TV, Rappers and bad role models... but its what happens when you have a limp wristed leader, who says teachers should be fired for stopping children fighting, who arent allowed to defend themselves against a knife whelding kid.

And sure, we'll send a parent to prison if the kid skips school - but not if they steal cars, mug the elderly, no, we'll just give them more benifits because their kid has 'special needs'

This countries gone soft, and on one hand, the jobsworths are abusing the honest decent folk, while the elements that need controlling are allowed to run free turning town centres into war zones...

Whilst we have a "limp wristed leader" what are the limp wristed public doing? We don't take our politics seriously enough in the UK and this is what we get for it. We need a real alternative to the major players; a party with balls, integrity and common sense and not one of the current parties have an ounce of anything remotely close to those things. ;)

Damn... I'll probably be arrested now for saying "ounce" and not "gram"... That and "incitement to do something"!

[Bibbs]

The problem is the people who have strong views about sorting this country out .. usually have massive racist undertones.

I want someone to sort it out, but not burning crosses and wearing sheets thanks.

[JAHill]

The problem is the people who have strong views about sorting this country out .. usually have massive racist undertones.

I want someone to sort it out, but not burning crosses and wearing sheets thanks.

Very true. Problem is, how do you find enough people that can forget their own prejudices and beliefs to form a party? Either that or one person who has all the right, selfless qualities and is ready to fire anyone who shows the slightest leaning to their own ideals.

It's a tricky one and I don't think there are any examples currently or at any time in the past. People are people.

Sod it! Let's just have corporations running the countr... No wait, they already do don't they? ;)

[Flat Pack]

This countries gone soft, and on one hand, the jobsworths are abusing the honest decent folk, while the elements that need controlling are allowed to run free turning town centres into war zones...

That, combined with an incredibly stupid benefits system are the main problems with this country. The government is always keen to be seen to be doing something, yet at the same time actually addressing problems takes money they don't have (it's all going on the Labour voters benefits / public sector gravy train). Far easier to just think of some way of fining decent people for it and hope that they believe it affects the scum causing the problem too.

As for petty crime falling, that's a joke in itself. Everyone has simply realised that reporting it is pointless, the Police are too busy slapping instant fines on honest people for committing non-offences. Probably while sat in the back of a camera van.

[Fidgits]

The problem is the people who have strong views about sorting this country out .. usually have massive racist undertones.

I want someone to sort it out, but not burning crosses and wearing sheets thanks.

well, i think that is true in some cases...

But its also another problem..

If you say there is too much immigration in this country - such as my small Wiltshire market town where i now hear as much russian as i do english - people accuse me of being racist...

I mean, only this week Newcastle was slated for being 'too white!' i mean come on!

[Bibbs]

I've not problem with immigration, as long as it's combined with dispersement ..

They say it's a "melting pot" of cultures .. no. It's about a dozen different pots, all separate, I'm afraid.

And when you hear about the following - it makes me wanna move. "British Muslims want a state within a state - 40% want Sharia law to apply in the UK", Why come to a country and then try and change THEIR laws.

'The day is coming when British Muslims form a state within a state'

By Alasdair Palmer

For the past two weeks, Patrick Sookhdeo has been canvassing the opinions of Muslim clerics in Britain on the row over the cartoons featuring images of Mohammed that were first published in Denmark and then reprinted in several other European countries.

"They think they have won the debate," he says with a sigh. "They believe that the British Government has capitulated to them, because it feared the consequences if it did not.

"The cartoons, you see, have not been published in this country, and the Government has been very critical of those countries in which they were published. To many of the Islamic clerics, that's a clear victory.

"It's confirmation of what they believe to be a familiar pattern: if spokesmen for British Muslims threaten what they call 'adverse consequences' - violence to the rest of us - then the British Government will cave in. I think it is a very dangerous precedent."

Dr Sookhdeo adds that he believes that "in a decade, you will see parts of English cities which are controlled by Muslim clerics and which follow, not the common law, but aspects of Muslim sharia law.

Telegraph

[Johndcfc]

I've not problem with immigration, as long as it's combined with dispersement ..

They say it's a "melting pot" of cultures .. no. It's about a dozen different pots, all separate, I'm afraid.

And when you hear about the following - it makes me wanna move. "British Muslims want a state within a state - 40% want Sharia law to apply in the UK", Why come to a country and then try and change THEIR laws.

'The day is coming when British Muslims form a state within a state'

By Alasdair Palmer

For the past two weeks, Patrick Sookhdeo has been canvassing the opinions of Muslim clerics in Britain on the row over the cartoons featuring images of Mohammed that were first published in Denmark and then reprinted in several other European countries.

"They think they have won the debate," he says with a sigh. "They believe that the British Government has capitulated to them, because it feared the consequences if it did not.

"The cartoons, you see, have not been published in this country, and the Government has been very critical of those countries in which they were published. To many of the Islamic clerics, that's a clear victory.

"It's confirmation of what they believe to be a familiar pattern: if spokesmen for British Muslims threaten what they call 'adverse consequences' - violence to the rest of us - then the British Government will cave in. I think it is a very dangerous precedent."

Dr Sookhdeo adds that he believes that "in a decade, you will see parts of English cities which are controlled by Muslim clerics and which follow, not the common law, but aspects of Muslim sharia law.

Telegraph

I think I'm just gonna move to prague - get a decent appartment for under 50k (couldnt buy a shoebox for that here) - cheap food and beer plus the women are stunning....!

[Bibbs]

It's the fact I'd not move to another country and then expect to live off benifits and not have to at least try and learn the language. I wouldn't turn up, move into an "English" area, intimidate the locals and then ask for the laws to be changed (like the butchering of animals, Sikhs not having to wear helmets on bikes and the whole Burka (sp!?) pictures on your passport).

[JAHill]

The problem is the people who have strong views about sorting this country out .. usually have massive racist undertones.

I want someone to sort it out, but not burning crosses and wearing sheets thanks.

well, i think that is true in some cases...

But its also another problem..

If you say there is too much immigration in this country - such as my small Wiltshire market town where i now hear as much russian as i do english - people accuse me of being racist...

I mean, only this week Newcastle was slated for being 'too white!' i mean come on!

I think people confuse other's feelings with racism. Many people are afraid of immigration but they aren't racist... It's just the current system is a bag of pants.

I seriously don't have a problem with people coming into the country as long as they bring skills here, are going into a full time job which pays taxes into the system and they can speak at least enough English to live by. I wouldn't consider going to live in another country unless I could, or was serious about learning the langauge. Canada has a good entry system based on points. Plus any of your family coming in should have to undergo the same test. But by saying that they should at least speak some English, some people will think I am being racist and I am not and anyone who knows me can attest to that - apart from a few joking shots at the French ;)

Too often I hear people slagging off immigrants to this country and those doing the loudest complaining are usually chavy scumbags who sponge off of the state! Get rid of them as we let immigrants in on a one for one basis. Sorted!

[Fidgits]

I've not problem with immigration, as long as it's combined with dispersement ..

They say it's a "melting pot" of cultures .. no. It's about a dozen different pots, all separate, I'm afraid.

And when you hear about the following - it makes me wanna move. "British Muslims want a state within a state - 40% want Sharia law to apply in the UK", Why come to a country and then try and change THEIR laws.

'The day is coming when British Muslims form a state within a state'

By Alasdair Palmer

For the past two weeks, Patrick Sookhdeo has been canvassing the opinions of Muslim clerics in Britain on the row over the cartoons featuring images of Mohammed that were first published in Denmark and then reprinted in several other European countries.

"They think they have won the debate," he says with a sigh. "They believe that the British Government has capitulated to them, because it feared the consequences if it did not.

"The cartoons, you see, have not been published in this country, and the Government has been very critical of those countries in which they were published. To many of the Islamic clerics, that's a clear victory.

"It's confirmation of what they believe to be a familiar pattern: if spokesmen for British Muslims threaten what they call 'adverse consequences' - violence to the rest of us - then the British Government will cave in. I think it is a very dangerous precedent."

Dr Sookhdeo adds that he believes that "in a decade, you will see parts of English cities which are controlled by Muslim clerics and which follow, not the common law, but aspects of Muslim sharia law.

Telegraph

Interesting - although i was siting immigration as just one example - if you speak out against anyone or anything, you are labelled racist/sexist etc...

Take that newsreader that actually said something that made a lot of sense for once - he was slated for sexism when he was right..!

Incase your wondering, i cant remember his name, but he said we have gone too femine in this country...

Whereas a masculine approach is competitive sports to encourage healthy competition and a desire to win, the female approach is 'everyone wins', thus no-one feels inadequate...

So removing competitive sports from Schools is making the education system more femine...

Which it is already biased towards, as in the 70's, boys got much better results than girls in O levels - so they changed the system to bias towards multiple choice and then the GCSE - which is based on a combination of coursework and exams. And it just turns out, mens brains are better suited to exams, and womens the coursework/multiple choice... hence why girls now score better than boys - and as it continues in that fashion, the gap increases...

The same with criminals/discpline - rather than direct punishment, were always trying to 'understand why they commited the crime', basically finding reasons and try to rehabilitate them rather than punish them...

and yes, you can call this sexist, as most people did to the guy who originally said it, but as far as im concerned, they are spot on - and we need to point the country in the opposite direction!

If you live here, you live by our rules. If you commit a crime, you are punished severley....

[jay dh]

"British Muslims want a state within a state - 40% want Sharia law to apply in the UK", Why come to a country and then try and change THEIR laws.

because they know they can get more money off our government and turn this country more into their own.

[JustJJ]

The original point to do with gambling is true... we have a number of large gambling clients we do PPC (pay per click) advertising for... we are having to change all our creative..

We cant put stuff like: Play, Click, Join, Win, Bet, Money or the Names of specific games

How the hell are we sposed to advertise?

BTW.. Vancouver is very nice...

And yeah... people are becoming desensitised on matters which shouldnt happen in the first place.. let alone frequently.