Based on the above posts on this thread this is "starting to look like" another IQ re occuring problem ? If a few have been reported on this forum, there are likely to me many more ? Just another Toyota recall in the making ? I have to admit I must have been very lucky in the past with other makes my experience over a few years is as follows: The below list excludes punctures & windscreen stone cracks ! Just a few I can remember over the last 20 years ! (old age is setting in !) Ford Orion 60,000+ miles from new no problems Ford Cortina's X 3 - both 60,000+ miles from new no problems Ford Granada 60,000+ miles from new no problems Merc 220E 60,0000+ miles from new no problems Merc 190E 120,000+ miles second hand no problems Audi A4 - 60,000+ miles from new no problems Land Rovers X 3 off (Various models) - all covered 60,000+ miles from new no problems Hundia Tuscan 60,000+ miles approved second hand no problems BMW 3 - Series 60,000+ miles from new no problems BMW 5 - Series 60,000+ miles approved second hand no problems Volvo's x 6 Of various types up to my last one 12 months ago, a year 2000 S80 all second hand 60,000+ miles (Some many more miles) - no problems at all. I could continue with this list I think readers will get the drift ! I am a Mechanical & Electrical hands on engineer and time served Precision Toolmaker plus a now retired Operations Director of a large number high technology precision manufacturing operations across the globe. The above is what I "expect" to get from a car ! assuming regular correct servicing and no abuse. There is "no reason" why today based on modern engineering and improvements in technology over the last 20 years that we should not expect to get "very close" to "Zero Defect" and good reliability. I rest my case, I will keep my Toyota IQ for a few years, as I now only cover 5000 miles per year, however I have made my decision today: I will NOT be buying another Toyota. That's it from me ! Positive Regards, Bob Kneale.